Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 4)

[The Rotrex Kid]

Toaster Pilot said:

Will it really affect the value though? Cars get crashed and repaired all the time - if it wasn’t his would you even know it had been?

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

[Toaster Pilot]

The Rotrex Kid said:

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

If it wasn’t owned by someone who shouted about the fact it’d been in a crash, how does that information become available?

[DonBarracuda]

Algarve said:

I think you're delusional if you think "owned by schmeeeee" will more than offset "crashed and repaired" when it comes to an actual buyer willing and able to spend £600k+ on a car.

The crash and repair have been well documented, how he uses the car is displayed to everyone to see, so you know more or less exactly what you are getting. Wouldn't that fill a potential buyer with more confidence?

[The Rotrex Kid]

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

If it wasn’t owned by someone who shouted about the fact it’d been in a crash, how does that information become available?

McLaren? As they are likely the be the only ones rebuilding them, a request to them about history on a car would likely explain all.

[Toaster Pilot]

The Rotrex Kid said:

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

If it wasn’t owned by someone who shouted about the fact it’d been in a crash, how does that information become available?

McLaren? As they are likely the be the only ones rebuilding them, a request to them about history on a car would likely explain all.

Are they obliged to reveal that information though, or would they hide behind GDPR?

[The Rotrex Kid]

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

If it wasn’t owned by someone who shouted about the fact it’d been in a crash, how does that information become available?

McLaren? As they are likely the be the only ones rebuilding them, a request to them about history on a car would likely explain all.

Are they obliged to reveal that information though, or would they hide behind GDPR?

I would imagine they would have some way around it for people buying their flagship cars, they likely have in for F1 buyers. I’m just speculating of course.

[TheAngryDog]

thegreenhell said:

maz8062 said:

What is the mindset of asking someone to review your car as I don’t get it? Is it that you want to see your car on YouTube to be pored over by Jay’s viewers, or what is the attraction of it? I ask because Chris Harris gets people asking him to drive their exotica and I’ve never understood it.

Just a question.

Some people think a car is worth more if it's famous on youtube...

I don't believe that my car is worth any more, or less, than it would have been had it not have been on Jay's channel.

[pquinn]

The Rotrex Kid said:

Toaster Pilot said:

Will it really affect the value though? Cars get crashed and repaired all the time - if it wasn’t his would you even know it had been?

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

It isn't a special/rare enough car that if you were shopping for one, that a damaged/repaired one wouldn't get pushed down the list compared to a fresh one, in which case the market value is less if you want to shift it.

Unless there's something about the spec that made it ultra desirable compared to most, it'll still be marked down regardless of perfect undetectable repairs.

Some things a crash is just part of the history or an excuse for a rebuild, not so sure a particularly ugly and not particularly rare variant in the endless streams of similar McLarens is ever going to hit that status.

[Ninrum]

Just listening to JWW and Yianni talking Chris Harris on stereo. In the last week I’ve heard Yianni throw quite childish jabs at Harris, as if wrapping footballers cars is of more value to the car world than a serious journalist.

[maz8062]

TheAngryDog said:

thegreenhell said:

maz8062 said:

What is the mindset of asking someone to review your car as I don’t get it? Is it that you want to see your car on YouTube to be pored over by Jay’s viewers, or what is the attraction of it? I ask because Chris Harris gets people asking him to drive their exotica and I’ve never understood it.

Just a question.

Some people think a car is worth more if it's famous on youtube...

I don't believe that my car is worth any more, or less, than it would have been had it not have been on Jay's channel.

Fair enough mate. To me, it'd be like lending someone my Mrs to have a go and filming it - not that it'd get many views mind.

[LanceRS]

I just like doing car stuff. If someone I trusted wanted to film or photo one of mine, it’s a day out doing car stuff. One of mine was used as background furniture on a very old Top Gear (they did ask if Tiff could drive it but I declined on the grounds that something would probably break). It was a real blink and you missed it moment but it was an interesting day out with the car.

[Meridius]

JayEmm could get the best of both worlds, sensible driving for review but stick in a bit of b-roll of bouncing off the rev limiter while stationary in a motorway underpass

[sisu]

So what is Monkey going to do?
Invite him on to the collecting cars podcast and go to some local Bristol pub for a pint?

[614-HSO]

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

If it wasn’t owned by someone who shouted about the fact it’d been in a crash, how does that information become available?

McLaren? As they are likely the be the only ones rebuilding them, a request to them about history on a car would likely explain all.

Are they obliged to reveal that information though, or would they hide behind GDPR?

In one of the videos Tim said that the entire car has been gone over and it has been repaired to as new condition.

[Toaster Pilot]

614-HSO said:

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

If it wasn’t owned by someone who shouted about the fact it’d been in a crash, how does that information become available?

McLaren? As they are likely the be the only ones rebuilding them, a request to them about history on a car would likely explain all.

Are they obliged to reveal that information though, or would they hide behind GDPR?

In one of the videos Tim said that the entire car has been gone over and it has been repaired to as new condition.

Yeah I’ve no doubt about that - my point is, cars are crashed and repaired every day. In the more affordable part of the car market, at least, a buyer would have absolutely no idea that had happened if someone hadn’t paraded it all over YouTube.

[614-HSO]

Toaster Pilot said:

614-HSO said:

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Toaster Pilot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

I would imagine that anyone spending half a million plus on a car does some kind of provenance checks on it and it would come up that it’s had a few hundred k of repairs....

If it wasn’t owned by someone who shouted about the fact it’d been in a crash, how does that information become available?

McLaren? As they are likely the be the only ones rebuilding them, a request to them about history on a car would likely explain all.

Are they obliged to reveal that information though, or would they hide behind GDPR?

In one of the videos Tim said that the entire car has been gone over and it has been repaired to as new condition.

Yeah I’ve no doubt about that - my point is, cars are crashed and repaired every day. In the more affordable part of the car market, at least, a buyer would have absolutely no idea that had happened if someone hadn’t paraded it all over YouTube.

I get what you are saying, I think the thing is this car has had it's life online so this is probably the Senna that has the most known about it, I think that if you were going to buy this car if it was ever for sale it will be less money than a delivery millage Senna, but you wouldn't be able to drive a delivery millage Senna so if you wanted a Senna to drive this would be the one to get, nothing has been hidden about the car and you do know that it has been fully looked after, I mean really the damage was just cosmetic and to the panels which are designed to be removed and replaced.

I would like to have lots of cars but I would want to drive them about, I would leave them on zero millage, there is no point buying them if you are not going to drive them imo.

If this Senna and another in the same spec were in a dealer for the same price and had the same millage I would go for Tims, not because I like his content but I know the history, I would know nothing about the other, other than the stamps in the service book, the other could have been driven by someone like Paul/SOL driving about in first gear all the time in chaos mode for example.

Another video where Tim talks about the repair.

Edited by 614-HSO on Wednesday 24th February 22:12

[TheAngryDog]

Japveesix said:

614-HSO, genuine question then, how old are you? Answer truthfully and I'll honestly try not to be mean to you again. Although in fairness I did only say 'a bit' odd, not 'really weird' or 'fking mental' etc.

I don't think you will get an answer. I have asked previously a few times which has been met with radio silence. Odd.

maz8062 said:

TheAngryDog said:

thegreenhell said:

maz8062 said:

What is the mindset of asking someone to review your car as I don’t get it? Is it that you want to see your car on YouTube to be pored over by Jay’s viewers, or what is the attraction of it? I ask because Chris Harris gets people asking him to drive their exotica and I’ve never understood it.

Just a question.

Some people think a car is worth more if it's famous on youtube...

I don't believe that my car is worth any more, or less, than it would have been had it not have been on Jay's channel.

Fair enough mate. To me, it'd be like lending someone my Mrs to have a go and filming it - not that it'd get many views mind.

Fair comment. He's the only tuber to have reviewed it, and as it was to help his channel out it wasn't an issue.

[Cold]

That's a big imaginary fish he's holding.

[Jules Sunley]

jayemm89 said:

Some people like the channel and just want to help
Some people have cars they think deserve more exposure
Some people want to advertise their business
Some are interested in how the whole process works
Some want to start YT for themselves and want to see how it's done
Some do it as a memento of their car

At least some of the reasoning of people I have met

I would have thought the 'memento of their car' would be the main one for many - we don't get to see ourselves driving our cars so having someone film one would be a nice thing to keep (thinking here of the external drive by shots rather than the talking inside). I'm a member of a car club and one of the guys sticks a load of go-pros on his car and films when we have had group drive outs and it's fun to watch back and see your car on a 'fly by'.

It is all about the trust though. I wouldn't let Mat Watson (Car Wow) or most other YouTubers near a car of mine but someone like Harry or Iain Tyrrell or Jay Emm I think I'd be more relaxed about.

[Jules Sunley]

Cold said:

That's a big imaginary fish he's holding.

Brilliant. Or should that me a 'Shmish'.....