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Loads of spoilery stuff here explaining all the references hidden in plain sight in the episodes. The producers really have gone to town on it, and it’s very much not what it seems.
https://www.denofgeek.com/wandavision/
https://www.denofgeek.com/wandavision/
CheesecakeRunner said:
Loads of spoilery stuff here explaining all the references hidden in plain sight in the episodes. The producers really have gone to town on it, and it’s very much not what it seems.
https://www.denofgeek.com/wandavision/
There is certainly some great depth to it, i think a lot are used to the Netflix marvel series which were very different.https://www.denofgeek.com/wandavision/
CheesecakeRunner said:
Loads of spoilery stuff here explaining all the references hidden in plain sight in the episodes. The producers really have gone to town on it, and it’s very much not what it seems.
https://www.denofgeek.com/wandavision/
I know not everyone is a fan but this is why I love the weekly approach rather than a binge dump.https://www.denofgeek.com/wandavision/
Dumping the episodes in one hit kills all the suspense, the theories, the excitement. This feels like an event (and will do for 5 or 6 weeks) in a way that Netflix series just don't.
B0unty_Hunter said:
Has Scarlet Witch got enough power to distort reality enough that she could somehow bring Vision back to life ?
I wouldn’t have thought so. She is (I think) the most powerful one by miles though after captain marvel.
As much as I like him as a character, I think it be a shame if vision comes back. It would mean anything that happened in the past could be undone basically. A slippery slope.
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p1stonhead said:
B0unty_Hunter said:
Has Scarlet Witch got enough power to distort reality enough that she could somehow bring Vision back to life ?
I wouldn’t have thought so. She is (I think) the most powerful one by miles though after captain marvel.
As much as I like him as a character, I think it be a shame if vision comes back. It would mean anything that happened in the past could be undone basically. A slippery slope.
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So if you stepped into her reality he would be alive but if you were anywhere else on the planet he would be dead.
I could be wrong though.
He could definitely be brought back or rebooted without diminishing his death as he’s not actually organic, he’s a synthetic being. It’s not like she will bring people back from the dead.
I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
highway said:
I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
Agreed, and I think carrying on the exact same format of pastching each decades' sitcoms over 21 minutes, while drip feeding tiny little morsels of Wanda's reality, will be taking advantage of the good-will the past 13 years of MCU has built up.Hope it breaks out quickly, but fear it won't.
If I had the will power I'd save up the remaining 8 episodes and binge them.
highway said:
He could definitely be brought back or rebooted without diminishing his death as he’s not actually organic, he’s a synthetic being. It’s not like she will bring people back from the dead.
I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
Why so amazed? You don't expect a novel or a film to tell you everything within the first act do you? Not all shows should have to.I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
I think there's enough intrigue to carry through. I'll keep watching... It may be crap but I for one am enjoying the fact it could go anywhere from this point on.
I'm hoping it's a riff on "The 12 Days of Christine"...replace Christine with vision... Which would be great. But given the voices appear to be aimed at Wanda... It would appear not to be the case.
highway said:
He could definitely be brought back or rebooted without diminishing his death as he’s not actually organic, he’s a synthetic being. It’s not like she will bring people back from the dead.
I’m a bit ashamed to ask this geeky question but;Without the mind stone?
How?
Although I guess Cap took it back to the sacrifice planet and she could go get it from there.
Way too geeky let’s just leave it
Dromedary66 said:
highway said:
I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
Agreed, and I think carrying on the exact same format of pastching each decades' sitcoms over 21 minutes, while drip feeding tiny little morsels of Wanda's reality, will be taking advantage of the good-will the past 13 years of MCU has built up.Hope it breaks out quickly, but fear it won't.
If I had the will power I'd save up the remaining 8 episodes and binge them.
So far it’s all filler, no killer...
highway said:
I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
Maybe some of us aren't so much forgiving, but actually enjoyed it?! The MCU is incredible at what it does but it is absurdly formulaic in some respects, I'm loving seeing something that for now is out of left field with characters we know, yet perfectly enjoyable in its own right.
My wife had no intention of watching it but was absorbed from the off, I know for sure she wouldn't be nearly invested in a traditional punchy punchy superhero show.
I'll be watching them again tonight before the next one tomorrow.
ch37 said:
highway said:
I’m amazed people are so forgiving of a show that, on its first two episodes was so slow and self indulgent, on a promise - something interesting is going to happen. I’m all for building suspense and telling a story but I’m taken aback those two episodes could be enjoyed judged on their own merits.
Maybe some of us aren't so much forgiving, but actually enjoyed it?! The MCU is incredible at what it does but it is absurdly formulaic in some respects, I'm loving seeing something that for now is out of left field with characters we know, yet perfectly enjoyable in its own right.
My wife had no intention of watching it but was absorbed from the off, I know for sure she wouldn't be nearly invested in a traditional punchy punchy superhero show.
I'll be watching them again tonight before the next one tomorrow.
(*1) I've never understood the plaudits that the MCU gets, they seem to make the same formulaic CGI heavy movie with a drip of story arc and the fans lap it up. *I* just don't get it!
I enjoyed the pacing and the vibe of some of the MCU Netflix shows. I particularly enjoyed the role of Harlem as a a character in Luke Cage, and the use of music in that show. Agent Carter was a lot of fun. Daredevil kicked ass. I have not seen Iron Fist or The Defenders. I hear that they failed. I started The Punisher but have not stayed with it.
Maybe try bump starting The Defenders by having Valkyrie join the team, as she does in the comics. Crossover between the Earthbound local heroes and the Space Operatic epic heroes.
Maybe try bump starting The Defenders by having Valkyrie join the team, as she does in the comics. Crossover between the Earthbound local heroes and the Space Operatic epic heroes.
InitialDave said:
Iron Fist is kind of "meh", you just don't care all that much about the character really, and to my mind, that flows over to poison Defenders.
I think Jessica Jones was the best one, season 1 particularly.
Iron fist and the defenders were awful - iron fist taking the win. I think Jessica Jones was the best one, season 1 particularly.
A real shame after the first few - Jessica Jones, etc.
) .DanL said:
So... it’s an MCU thing for people who don’t particularly like the MCU? 
Of you can enjoy some punchy superhero action AND something a bit different?! Even more so if the two combine a bit.Endgame was one of my favourite cinema experiences for a long time, but then so was Parasite.
ch37 said:
DanL said:
So... it’s an MCU thing for people who don’t particularly like the MCU?
Of you can enjoy some punchy superhero action AND something a bit different?! Even more so if the two combine a bit.Endgame was one of my favourite cinema experiences for a long time, but then so was Parasite.
No nuance or appreciation of multiple genres is permitted!
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