Clarkson’s Farm
Discussion
Flumpo said:
The scathing guardian review was called out with claims they reviewed it without evening watching it. It did seem like they had decided clarkson, so let’s do a hatchet job.
That review did further damage their already sharply deteriorating credibility, especially as it very clear the reviewer had only seen the first episode and was trying to extrapolate the other seven from the marketing bumpf. Lucy Mangan (the reviewer) didn't really attempt to understand the events on screen either, the small classic tractor dealership in the first episode were absolutely not suggesting farming 1000acres with a 60hp tractor designed in the 50s. That Clarkson then went off and bought a large, complicated fairly niche tractor from overseas when a smaller, more basic tractor already set up for UK equipment would have sufficed for the implements on the farm was a in joke based on Clarkson's propensity for over the top impracticality (see Top Gear).As to reviewers not actually watching the show they were supposed to review, I vaguely remember reading a review of Game of Thrones when it was first shown that talked about the first series as if it were Tolkienesque high fantasy, all magic and dragons, whereas the fantasy elements are pared back, especially in the first few series.
Newarch said:
..stuff...... That Clarkson then went off and bought a large, complicated fairly niche tractor from overseas when a smaller, more basic tractor already set up for UK equipment would have sufficed for the implements on the farm was a in joke based on Clarkson's propensity for over the top impracticality (see Top Gear).
.......more stuff.....
Of course he is going to buy a Lamborghini........more stuff.....
When you see it against the Claas - you get the scale of it.
Oh - and can we have a minute's silence for Wayne Rooney.
Flumpo said:
The scathing guardian review was called out with claims they reviewed it without evening watching it. It did seem like they had decided clarkson, so let’s do a hatchet job.
A different Guardian journalist reviewed it yesterday and was very positive. I think everyone is right that the first review was done without watching it. Newarch said:
Welshbeef said:
Our family farm rescue with Adam Henson - channel 5 is also extremely good.
My brother went for a job on his place and got the impression that he is decidedly hands off about the whole farming thing, which is largely staffed and managed by other people. Evoluzione said:
We have robot mowers in gardens, I wonder how far we are off that kind of automated thing in Arable farming?
Not that far. There are some interesting different views on what the future is though... This is one view, with large tractors very similar to what we have now, just fully automated,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Os5Okf3OQ&ab...
And the other view is to have more, smaller, robots which do less damage to the soil, but require a complete change in the way of working. These are arguably more "robots" than just autonomous tractors. They can have sensors to detect weeds and apply weedkiller, or they can be used to do soil samples from across the field, or whatever you train the AI do to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qrlFse5I1U&ab...
Some specialist industries are already quite robotic, or at least can be. Fruit picking robots have been around for a decade or more, vertical farming systems using robots are proven if not mass market. Look to Japan to see what the future might hold, they have an aging population of farmers and high tech solutions to help.
Don't forget the auto steer tractors can and do get tangled up in field obstacles. Like in the case of this video of the aftermath from a Claas Xerion driving into a 130kv electricity pylon whilst cultivating. Took two days to disentangle. Driver OK, minor damage to tractor. Oooh arrr, that'll buff out.
https://youtu.be/mDsL4CwBEL4
https://youtu.be/mDsL4CwBEL4
FiF said:
Don't forget the auto steer tractors can and do get tangled up in field obstacles. Like in the case of this video of the aftermath from a Claas Xerion driving into a 130kv electricity pylon whilst cultivating. Took two days to disentangle. Driver OK, minor damage to tractor. Oooh arrr, that'll buff out.
https://youtu.be/mDsL4CwBEL4
That's a few years ago ow - the technology would have improved a fair bit since then yeah? One question I have is why would they need to concentrate so much on what's going on behind the tractor? That electricity tower would have cost a pretty penny to replace!https://youtu.be/mDsL4CwBEL4
rodericb said:
That's a few years ago ow - the technology would have improved a fair bit since then yeah? One question I have is why would they need to concentrate so much on what's going on behind the tractor? That electricity tower would have cost a pretty penny to replace!
Easier to say he was concentrating on the cultivator than playing with his phone, reading a porn mag, seeing what is in his tuck box, or anything else you can get up to in a tractor cab when the machine drives straight lines all day!I didn't realise that was at Flawborough. Wonder where the other 2 were?
liner33 said:
I think its there already* , probably not cost effective on our small fields
One of my relatives has been involved with this- Search autonomous tractors on youtube
https://www.fwi.co.uk/arable/whats-next-hands-free...
So it is being worked on and clearly its the future. That mindless driving backwards and forwards to prepare a field really is ripe for increased automation.
Condi said:
rodericb said:
That's a few years ago ow - the technology would have improved a fair bit since then yeah? One question I have is why would they need to concentrate so much on what's going on behind the tractor? That electricity tower would have cost a pretty penny to replace!
Easier to say he was concentrating on the cultivator than playing with his phone, reading a porn mag, seeing what is in his tuck box, or anything else you can get up to in a tractor cab when the machine drives straight lines all day!I didn't realise that was at Flawborough. Wonder where the other 2 were?
If someone can run into a pylon in an empty field, a pylon that he clearly knows is there, then what chances when various numpties are all let loose in self driving cars. Vehicles which still require the driver to pay attention and take over if things get a bit squirrelly. Luddite? Maybe, but not convinced at all about this for genuine free running roads yet. Off topic, sorry.
595Heaven said:
Drove through Chipping Norton today.
As we entered the town I said to keep an eye out for Caleb. Literally 10 seconds later saw him in his 350Z coming the other way...
After a Friday treat of a brace of episodes, we're down to the last one tonight.
Its about 50 mins from me, might take a drive out there sometime in next few weeks, is the shop still queued up when its open?As we entered the town I said to keep an eye out for Caleb. Literally 10 seconds later saw him in his 350Z coming the other way...
After a Friday treat of a brace of episodes, we're down to the last one tonight.
AJB88 said:
Its about 50 mins from me, might take a drive out there sometime in next few weeks, is the shop still queued up when its open?
Yes. Some friends have been camping at the site next door this weekend and said it is rammed from 0930 until closing every day. They do seem to have solved the traffic issues though - the Chadlington Road had no cars parked at all. He must have put in a lot of parking behind the shop and barn.
595Heaven said:
AJB88 said:
Its about 50 mins from me, might take a drive out there sometime in next few weeks, is the shop still queued up when its open?
Yes. Some friends have been camping at the site next door this weekend and said it is rammed from 0930 until closing every day. They do seem to have solved the traffic issues though - the Chadlington Road had no cars parked at all. He must have put in a lot of parking behind the shop and barn.
I went twice before it did and the first time there were about 5 cars in the car park, the second time it was just us.
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