Clarkson’s Farm

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gregs656

10,922 posts

182 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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I hadn’t even noticed. I am thoroughly enjoying it.

Edit: Caleb is an absolute gem. All the contributors are good actually. I think Clarkson is improved being surrounded by people he knows know more than him.

Edited by gregs656 on Sunday 13th June 02:37

abzmike

8,427 posts

107 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Any sweaty bits are pretty infrequent generally reactive and legitimate - such as getting kicked in the knackers by a sheep, something getting stuck in mud or a response to some daft piece of officialdom. Any youngsters will hear worse at school.

DaveGrohl

894 posts

98 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Evoluzione said:
DaveGrohl said:
Ok, NOW I'm excited. Thanks.

I'm a farmer so I'm right up for this.
You may know the answer to this then, why did he not plough his fields?
I think that one possible reason is that his land agent gave him a lost of implements to buy at a couple of farm sales and time was of the essence. For one thing, ploughing is a skilled job, maybe not the first thing you would want Jeremy to be cutting his teeth on. I've only watched the first ep so far so can't really comment any further other than my previous post about there being many different types of implement for preparing ground.

What I couldn't get over was why they went pintling on with that 3m cultivator when he had all that geound to cover, especially with that oversized tractor which was capable of pullong a much bigger cultivator. Again, it was maybe time constraints meaning they just had to buy something immediately and they couldn't find anything bigger. They couldn't have tried very hard though, the land agent wants his @rse kicking really.

Really enjoyed the first ep though. I was cringing when he was putting the seed and fert into the shed, I didn't like the look of the floor at all and it proved problematic when we saw the seed germinating inside the bag. It's a learning curve Jez and you're at the bottom, sympathies. There's an endless supply of such lessons in farming. He really couldn't have picked a worse autumn for his first sowing campaign, it was horrific and he's not even in a wet area of the country. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

xeny

4,342 posts

79 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Funk said:
To post something from the opposite perspective, not everything needs to be made 'child-friendly' and the answer is 'Don't watch it with your kids then."
Certainly it's easy to not watch with kids, but it's not as if the quantity of swearing adds to the experience, and it's potentially a really fun way for kids to learn about some of the practicalities and challenges of where food comes from.

Purely commercially, why makes choices which don't add much to the product and make it unappealing to some of your potential audience.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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The one thing Clarkson is not is an amateur TV program maker, I would bet my house they have had endless production meetings to identify exactly their audiences and just how to target the audience they want to appeal to.

Parents sitting down with young children who are unhappy with a mild bit of fing and geoffing is not the target audience

Evanivitch

20,175 posts

123 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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xeny said:
Certainly it's easy to not watch with kids, but it's not as if the quantity of swearing adds to the experience, and it's potentially a really fun way for kids to learn about some of the practicalities and challenges of where food comes from.

Purely commercially, why makes choices which don't add much to the product and make it unappealing to some of your potential audience.
Ask Prime to see if they'll create a censored option. It's not a big fix if it is wanted.

Turn7

23,644 posts

222 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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xeny said:
Funk said:
To post something from the opposite perspective, not everything needs to be made 'child-friendly' and the answer is 'Don't watch it with your kids then."
Certainly it's easy to not watch with kids, but it's not as if the quantity of swearing adds to the experience, and it's potentially a really fun way for kids to learn about some of the practicalities and challenges of where food comes from.

Purely commercially, why makes choices which don't add much to the product and make it unappealing to some of your potential audience.
Exactly the point I was trying to make.




dudleybloke

19,873 posts

187 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Watched it all now, very enjoyable. Hope there's another series in the making.

ralphrj

3,535 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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I'd been looking forward to this since seeing the first trailer, started it on Friday evening and finished it this morning.

I absolutely loved it.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,045 posts

101 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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ralphrj said:
I'd been looking forward to this since seeing the first trailer, started it on Friday evening and finished it this morning.

I absolutely loved it.
Pretty much ditto this.

RE the (odd, TBH) swearing. Couldn't those parents concerned say something to their kids along the lines of 'there will be words in this program I do not expect to hear you repeat!' I can't imagine anyone under 8 yr/old being remotely interested in the show, and It's not like they won't pick up the words at school.

614-HSO

1,333 posts

49 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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DaveGrohl said:
I like your post, but I'm wondering exactly how many people watch Countryfile AND read Farmers Weekly. Countryfile isn't for country people, never has been.
Thank you, I don't know, it was something Clarkson mentioned, most people with a interest will just watch Countryfile but the most you will see on that is Kate Humble bottle feeding a new born lamb, I suppose there is a bit more on there than this but it doesn't give a people a proper inside look on what farming in the UK is like and this is what he wanted to show.


Turn7 said:
Having now seen up to EP3, whilst Im enjoying it, I do feel the F word is far to prevalent, and unnecessary.

Im no prude by any means, but it wasnt used on TG or GT, and it seems to almost want to shock, which isnt really needed.

Also, as another poster poster mentions, it means you cannot watch it with your children.

Bit surprised at Amazon on this tbh.
It is strange to hear language from Clarkson like this, but it is what people say in situations and there was language from all three on Grand Tour, language use is more acceptable in the UK on TV, I would think that Amazon USA would bleep certain words.

I don't know and am not saying anything against farmers but I would imagine what is said is pretty tame on this show compared to what is really said in times of frustration.

gregs656 said:
I hadn’t even noticed. I am thoroughly enjoying it.

Edit: Caleb is an absolute gem. All the contributors are good actually. I think Clarkson is improved being surrounded by people he knows know more than him.

Edited by gregs656 on Sunday 13th June 02:37
Exactly, he is out of his depth and has no comeback to the people who know their stuff, he has to listen because it's going to be him that picks up the tab, Clarkson isn't short of money, but he isn't going to pour hundreds of thousands of pounds of his own money into a farm just to make a TV show, everyone has seen over the years how stubborn he is and rarely actually gives something up.

DaveGrohl said:
Evoluzione said:
DaveGrohl said:
Ok, NOW I'm excited. Thanks.

I'm a farmer so I'm right up for this.
You may know the answer to this then, why did he not plough his fields?
I think that one possible reason is that his land agent gave him a lost of implements to buy at a couple of farm sales and time was of the essence. For one thing, ploughing is a skilled job, maybe not the first thing you would want Jeremy to be cutting his teeth on. I've only watched the first ep so far so can't really comment any further other than my previous post about there being many different types of implement for preparing ground.

What I couldn't get over was why they went pintling on with that 3m cultivator when he had all that geound to cover, especially with that oversized tractor which was capable of pullong a much bigger cultivator. Again, it was maybe time constraints meaning they just had to buy something immediately and they couldn't find anything bigger. They couldn't have tried very hard though, the land agent wants his @rse kicking really.

Really enjoyed the first ep though. I was cringing when he was putting the seed and fert into the shed, I didn't like the look of the floor at all and it proved problematic when we saw the seed germinating inside the bag. It's a learning curve Jez and you're at the bottom, sympathies. There's an endless supply of such lessons in farming. He really couldn't have picked a worse autumn for his first sowing campaign, it was horrific and he's not even in a wet area of the country. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
He ran out of time to cultivate the fields in time to get things planted so he had to just plant seeds.

He had a list of equipment to buy and he did his best from the looks of it, the thing is, Clarkson could just have got someone like his land agent to buy the equipment, but what is the point in doing that, yes he is getting professional advice and help but there is a limit otherwise you may as well just employ people to just do everything.

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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I'm wondering what the farm's use was, before JC took over the running. He had someone running the place, but then retired, so what was he actually farming? Can't have been the same as Clarkson intended to do, otherwise there would have been the necessary machinery already there, or wouldn't there have been?

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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DaveGrohl said:
Evoluzione said:
DaveGrohl said:
Ok, NOW I'm excited. Thanks.

I'm a farmer so I'm right up for this.
You may know the answer to this then, why did he not plough his fields?
I think that one possible reason is that his land agent gave him a lost of implements to buy at a couple of farm sales and time was of the essence. For one thing, ploughing is a skilled job, maybe not the first thing you would want Jeremy to be cutting his teeth on. I've only watched the first ep so far so can't really comment any further other than my previous post about there being many different types of implement for preparing ground.

What I couldn't get over was why they went pintling on with that 3m cultivator when he had all that geound to cover, especially with that oversized tractor which was capable of pullong a much bigger cultivator. Again, it was maybe time constraints meaning they just had to buy something immediately and they couldn't find anything bigger. They couldn't have tried very hard though, the land agent wants his @rse kicking really.

Really enjoyed the first ep though. I was cringing when he was putting the seed and fert into the shed, I didn't like the look of the floor at all and it proved problematic when we saw the seed germinating inside the bag. It's a learning curve Jez and you're at the bottom, sympathies. There's an endless supply of such lessons in farming. He really couldn't have picked a worse autumn for his first sowing campaign, it was horrific and he's not even in a wet area of the country. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Thanks for the reply.

miniman

25,021 posts

263 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Watched a few episodes last night, very enjoyable. Pure chance, of course, that his local NFU rep turned out to be the agricultural equivalent of Nigella Lawson hehe

Gecko1978

9,756 posts

158 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
Gecko1978 said:
Also lambo tractor...very cool but Caleb's "power of the class" line when towing him out was great.
Power of the Claas - his make of tractor
I was aware that was the reference (auto correct to class) i just likee the fact it was likely not scripted and him being enthusiastic about his kit and his lifestyle. Most 21 year olds are Audi A3 pcp, Iphone 11, smart watch, ibiza. This lad is hard work, fun with me mates, Nissan 350z. Really only bit I missed aas Kaleb not having a shot in the Bentley

Doofus

25,873 posts

174 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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miniman said:
Watched a few episodes last night, very enjoyable. Pure chance, of course, that his local NFU rep turned out to be the agricultural equivalent of Nigella Lawson hehe
I didn't think she was smug, self-satisfied or creepy.

TEKNOPUG

18,976 posts

206 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Doofus said:
miniman said:
Watched a few episodes last night, very enjoyable. Pure chance, of course, that his local NFU rep turned out to be the agricultural equivalent of Nigella Lawson hehe
I didn't think she was smug, self-satisfied or creepy.
Wait until she hits 50 and has been through a couple of husbands....

ninja-lewis

4,250 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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rigga said:
I'm wondering what the farm's use was, before JC took over the running. He had someone running the place, but then retired, so what was he actually farming? Can't have been the same as Clarkson intended to do, otherwise there would have been the necessary machinery already there, or wouldn't there have been?
The auction he bought the equipment at was apparently his ex-tenant farmer's.

DaveGrohl

894 posts

98 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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fesuvious said:
DaveGrohl said:
I think that one possible reason is that his land agent gave him a lost of implements to buy at a couple of farm sales and time was of the essence. For one thing, ploughing is a skilled job, maybe not the first thing you would want Jeremy to be cutting his teeth on. I've only watched the first ep so far so can't really comment any further other than my previous post about there being many different types of implement for preparing ground.

What I couldn't get over was why they went pintling on with that 3m cultivator when he had all that geound to cover, especially with that oversized tractor which was capable of pullong a much bigger cultivator. Again, it was maybe time constraints meaning they just had to buy something immediately and they couldn't find anything bigger. They couldn't have tried very hard though, the land agent wants his @rse kicking really.

Really enjoyed the first ep though. I was cringing when he was putting the seed and fert into the shed, I didn't like the look of the floor at all and it proved problematic when we saw the seed germinating inside the bag. It's a learning curve Jez and you're at the bottom, sympathies. There's an endless supply of such lessons in farming. He really couldn't have picked a worse autumn for his first sowing campaign, it was horrific and he's not even in a wet area of the country. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
For those of us that know nothing of farming....

Was it that the floor looked damp? Pls explain
At first glance it looked like the floor was just bare soil. I didn't rewind so don't actually have any idea if that was indeed the case and it was quite dark. But moisture comes up through soil even if it looks dry. Seed bags aren't waterproof. Fert bags are theoretically waterproof but you don't need much of a pebble to make a hole in the plastic and thence moisture ingress. I mean, that's the shed he has so that's what he's got to work with, you can only piss with the cock you've got.

He also said rain had got into the shed, so It sounds like things escalated. It's quite something to be learning about all this at his age. Respect, I've been at it for decades and still cock something up every day.

TEKNOPUG

18,976 posts

206 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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The bags should be off the floor on pallets or similar.