Clarkson’s Farm
Discussion
Condi said:
robwilk said:
I thought this so googled Lambo tractor r8 for sale and there are two available in Germany for £42K and £45k
They're not a big name and not a particularly desirable machine. Something by Massey Ferguson, John Deere or New Holland would be worth more for that age/HP, but they also have a dealer network in the UK so when it breaks you don't need to use Google Translate to work out what has gone wrong... Blackpuddin said:
J4CKO said:
Watched the first two last night, transfixed, even the wife who groans when she sees Jeremey Clarkson was chuckling away.
Its sort of like they have diluted him a little bit, he is still very much there but the other people, the scenery, the sheep and the enormity of the task at hand means it doesnt feel contrived and as oafish. Now I like Clarkson but can see how a lot don't but this really does show him in a better light, less of the ape and more of a him being, er, actually human.
He does seem to be putting his heart and soul into it, am fairly convinced its not all an act, obviously some stuff will be contrived but with sheep I dont think you need to, they are their own comedy.
It feels fresh where, though I still enjoyed it TG was getting a bit hackneyed and repetitive, seemed a bit weird at first but after one episode, hooked and it just seems so natural.
I bet some of those sniffy Guardian readers are secretly really enjoying it, how can you not enjoy that scenery and Jeremy getting booted by a sheep ?
Like the fact he has some ladies showing him the ropes and is listening and not being weird, the Tractor instructor lady and the shepherdess for example.
Main thing is an appreciation for farming, farmers and all the folk who work in the industry, that is a tough gig, hats off to you and well done JC for bringing that to the attention of the public, suspect this will do more for the perception of farmers and farming than anything before.
Totally agree with every part of that post. Its sort of like they have diluted him a little bit, he is still very much there but the other people, the scenery, the sheep and the enormity of the task at hand means it doesnt feel contrived and as oafish. Now I like Clarkson but can see how a lot don't but this really does show him in a better light, less of the ape and more of a him being, er, actually human.
He does seem to be putting his heart and soul into it, am fairly convinced its not all an act, obviously some stuff will be contrived but with sheep I dont think you need to, they are their own comedy.
It feels fresh where, though I still enjoyed it TG was getting a bit hackneyed and repetitive, seemed a bit weird at first but after one episode, hooked and it just seems so natural.
I bet some of those sniffy Guardian readers are secretly really enjoying it, how can you not enjoy that scenery and Jeremy getting booted by a sheep ?
Like the fact he has some ladies showing him the ropes and is listening and not being weird, the Tractor instructor lady and the shepherdess for example.
Main thing is an appreciation for farming, farmers and all the folk who work in the industry, that is a tough gig, hats off to you and well done JC for bringing that to the attention of the public, suspect this will do more for the perception of farmers and farming than anything before.
DodgyGeezer said:
Aren't they though? Lambo made their name in tractors so one would assume that they've got a decent rep (unless it's just in the UK)?
They're part of Same Deutz Fahr, and so while more popular abroad (the company is German) the entire group only make up a very small percentage of sales, tiny compared with other large names. There is no connection to the car company and hasn't been for many years. JC doesn't have many good things to say about it, Caleb had nothing good to say about it!
Scabutz said:
andy ted said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Scabutz said:
anxious_ant said:
It's also a very fun introduction to farming. Big expenses though, wonder if it's sponsored or out of Jezza's own pocket.
Amazon must be writing the cheques for a lot of it I would guess. Nice deal for Jezza. Get paid for a TV show, get your farm partially funded. Dr Jekyll said:
Doofus said:
I fear that, to some, it will just reinforce the idea that farmers are minted landowners who are just mucking about for most of the time, whilst receiving subsidies from the Government to not grow crops.
I don't think so. It's very clear how difficult it must be to make any money from farming. It's also instructive to see that whatever a farmer is trying to do, there is always an official somewhere trying to ban it. Must be a hell of a lot harder with loans repayments or rent to pay.
TEKNOPUG said:
People might begin to realise that the JC on TG/GT is just an extreme caricature of himself that he is playing....
Once or twice on the farm show, he wandered back into that caricature, I thought. The money derived from the entertainment value of JC cocking about is greater than the money derived from running an efficient and profitable farm, so oaf will always win over grown-up.I'm happy, as long as he can keep a lid on being deliberately stupid. I can handle him being genuinely stupid, but pretending to be stupid is just annoying.
I know the Lambo wasn't popular, but I imagine it would find work locally if/when something bigger was needed (like moleing).
ChocolateFrog said:
I can see how you can make decent money when you own the farm outright.
Must be a hell of a lot harder with loans repayments or rent to pay.
It's not just that, the CAP Pillar 1 subsidies for owning the land go to the landowner, not the tennant. That system is being phased out.Must be a hell of a lot harder with loans repayments or rent to pay.
Sammo123 said:
We sat and watched the first two episodes last night. We both thought it was brilliant and hilarious in equal measure. You could also see Jeremy was genuinely gutted at what happened in the second episode.
Can't wait to keep watching it!
Agreed, really enjoyed the first two episodesCan't wait to keep watching it!
Blackpuddin said:
J4CKO said:
Watched the first two last night, transfixed, even the wife who groans when she sees Jeremey Clarkson was chuckling away.
Its sort of like they have diluted him a little bit, he is still very much there but the other people, the scenery, the sheep and the enormity of the task at hand means it doesnt feel contrived and as oafish. Now I like Clarkson but can see how a lot don't but this really does show him in a better light, less of the ape and more of a him being, er, actually human.
He does seem to be putting his heart and soul into it, am fairly convinced its not all an act, obviously some stuff will be contrived but with sheep I dont think you need to, they are their own comedy.
It feels fresh where, though I still enjoyed it TG was getting a bit hackneyed and repetitive, seemed a bit weird at first but after one episode, hooked and it just seems so natural.
I bet some of those sniffy Guardian readers are secretly really enjoying it, how can you not enjoy that scenery and Jeremy getting booted by a sheep ?
Like the fact he has some ladies showing him the ropes and is listening and not being weird, the Tractor instructor lady and the shepherdess for example.
Main thing is an appreciation for farming, farmers and all the folk who work in the industry, that is a tough gig, hats off to you and well done JC for bringing that to the attention of the public, suspect this will do more for the perception of farmers and farming than anything before.
Totally agree with every part of that post. Its sort of like they have diluted him a little bit, he is still very much there but the other people, the scenery, the sheep and the enormity of the task at hand means it doesnt feel contrived and as oafish. Now I like Clarkson but can see how a lot don't but this really does show him in a better light, less of the ape and more of a him being, er, actually human.
He does seem to be putting his heart and soul into it, am fairly convinced its not all an act, obviously some stuff will be contrived but with sheep I dont think you need to, they are their own comedy.
It feels fresh where, though I still enjoyed it TG was getting a bit hackneyed and repetitive, seemed a bit weird at first but after one episode, hooked and it just seems so natural.
I bet some of those sniffy Guardian readers are secretly really enjoying it, how can you not enjoy that scenery and Jeremy getting booted by a sheep ?
Like the fact he has some ladies showing him the ropes and is listening and not being weird, the Tractor instructor lady and the shepherdess for example.
Main thing is an appreciation for farming, farmers and all the folk who work in the industry, that is a tough gig, hats off to you and well done JC for bringing that to the attention of the public, suspect this will do more for the perception of farmers and farming than anything before.
I was a long-time fan of JC on Top Gear until his penultimate series, when it all got a bit too 'faux ladz bantz' and went away from the cars and more about stupid 'adventures' that were impossible for the average car enthusiast to relate to. Even though I have had Amazon Prime from the outset, I didn't watch any of The Grand Tour because I was annoyed at his petulant behaviour in the build up to his BBC departure. The ego had just got too big IMHO.
However everyone deserves a second chance, so I gave this a spin last night and really enjoyed it. As a caravanner (and also a sportscar owner) the Caravan Club advert he did really made me laugh, a return to form of the old JC.
We enjoyed it in our household too. I was glad he showed some of the finances. Not being anywhere near that sort of world I found it interesting as I had no idea on the costs and prices of things like that. I know the arable farm didn't turn a profit but the farm shop must have made a few quid?
Would love to see another series too.
Would love to see another series too.
silobass said:
We enjoyed it in our household too. I was glad he showed some of the finances. Not being anywhere near that sort of world I found it interesting as I had no idea on the costs and prices of things like that. I know the arable farm didn't turn a profit but the farm shop must have made a few quid?
Would love to see another series too.
The farm shop is very tiny and has a very low stock level. My wife did however buy one of his glass milk bottles.Would love to see another series too.
The really interesting thing was the planning notice attached to the barn next to the shop.
If it goes through you will be able to buy Clarkson cream teas and a beer while looking at not to shabby a view down the valley
silobass said:
I know the arable farm didn't turn a profit but the farm shop must have made a few quid?
After the potatoes were all sold, pretty-well everything else in the farm shop was bought in. Even the (oh, my sides) "Cow Juice".There would still be a margin on it, of course, but much lower than if it had been his own produce.
Evanivitch said:
Condi said:
That is his place, and the farm shop is 1km NNW. I think his actual house is about 600m north?
This one? Looks like there's a track linking. He's certainly planted a few trees.
silobass said:
We enjoyed it in our household too. I was glad he showed some of the finances. Not being anywhere near that sort of world I found it interesting as I had no idea on the costs and prices of things like that. I know the arable farm didn't turn a profit but the farm shop must have made a few quid?
Would love to see another series too.
The Farm shop would take years to pay for the build costs. Unless it can be expanded significantly as suggested earlier, by branching out.Would love to see another series too.
Sway said:
andy ted said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Scabutz said:
anxious_ant said:
It's also a very fun introduction to farming. Big expenses though, wonder if it's sponsored or out of Jezza's own pocket.
Amazon must be writing the cheques for a lot of it I would guess. Nice deal for Jezza. Get paid for a TV show, get your farm partially funded. He's also been very open that part of the motivation was to show how tough it is to make money doing farming - he's alright, as he puts it he can get on the phone and do another series of Millionaire or whatever.
Yes, he's throwing in the entertainment side to pull people in - but I genuinely think he's doing all this for the right reasons.
He has said he got the land cheap, and probably for less than it was worth at the time back in 08 it was a buyers market with the financial crisis and as he had the money it was a safe thing to put it in, he wasn't going to lose money on it.
As for Amazon surely the series would have been picked up by Amazon through Expectation Entertainment which is now in-charge of Grand Tour and also Condao Productions which Clarkson owns outright, https://www.grandtournation.com/thegrandtour/a-cha... so he would of course get money from this show but only a percentage and that money he is getting would be going into the running of the farm.
As I said in a previous post here, he can afford to take more risk than a farmer who only has a farm, it wouldn't surprise me if Clarkson just breaks about even once all the costs are worked out.
ChocolateFrog said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Doofus said:
I fear that, to some, it will just reinforce the idea that farmers are minted landowners who are just mucking about for most of the time, whilst receiving subsidies from the Government to not grow crops.
I don't think so. It's very clear how difficult it must be to make any money from farming. It's also instructive to see that whatever a farmer is trying to do, there is always an official somewhere trying to ban it. Must be a hell of a lot harder with loans repayments or rent to pay.
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