Clarkson’s Farm

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DaveGrohl

894 posts

98 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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Evanivitch said:
DaveGrohl said:
Is wilding different from rewilding? Most livestock farms are a haven for wildlife to start with.
It's just not the case. Livestock farming is dependent on the productivity of your grass. Grass is a crop like any other and farmers manage it like a crop, a monoculture, like anything else. Sure there are times when the field is lush with long grass, and maybe even wildflowers, but everything that's not grass is doing your productivity harm. When they spend 5 months of the year in sheds they're still dependent on good grass.

Sure there are better, low-density ways of doing it, but even upland farming is dependent on grass and not forestry or bracken. It's just not the modern way of livestock farming.

Similarly, whilst arable farming isn't great either, crops like rape seed are dependent on and beneficial too the pollinators. Until they get sprayed off or flattened.
1. Hedgerows. Miles of them.
2. The only sprays that are used on grass are the occasional herbicide, say once in five years if that.
3. There's a lot more living creatures in a field of grass than a lot of arable crops.
4. The soil under grass is more fertile and full of tiny lifeforms than arable soils.
5. Why do you assume grass fields are monoculture?
We have a small area that would be a rewilder's delight. No more life in there than the grass fields and hedges.

h0b0

7,617 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
mick987 said:
Scabutz said:
Amazon must be writing the cheques for a lot of it I would guess. Nice deal for Jezza. Get paid for a TV show, get your farm partially funded.
I would think with the money Amazon is paying for the series, he could by the farm and machinery many time over.
Ofcourse he could.

His net worth has to be over £100m.

Someone else seemed to hint his OH was even more wealthy, I've no idea on that one personally.
She used to be married to "Baron Bonkers" and has two kids with him. Baron Bonkers is a billionaire (with a "B")

Lisa was also in this plane...



614-HSO

1,328 posts

49 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
Sway said:
Oilchange said:
He needs to buy some alpacas and ostriches for the second season, they would be fun. And maybe chickens too.
Ooh, alpaca as a replacement for sheep could be hilarious (and informative)...
Quite a few places seem to have llamas and/or alpacas so that could be very interesting. Ostrich farming likewise - though that could raise the danger/risk factor significantly
Doesn't Harry have llamas or alpacas on his farm?

614-HSO

1,328 posts

49 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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h0b0 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
mick987 said:
Scabutz said:
Amazon must be writing the cheques for a lot of it I would guess. Nice deal for Jezza. Get paid for a TV show, get your farm partially funded.
I would think with the money Amazon is paying for the series, he could by the farm and machinery many time over.
Ofcourse he could.

His net worth has to be over £100m.

Someone else seemed to hint his OH was even more wealthy, I've no idea on that one personally.
She used to be married to "Baron Bonkers" and has two kids with him. Baron Bonkers is a billionaire (with a "B")

Lisa was also in this plane...

Wow, she was lucky to get out of that ok.

I don't think he's worth £100m+, however if he is and she has money as well then I am fully expecting a Ferrari combine harvester on the farm this/next year.

mick987

1,263 posts

111 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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I have watched the whole series today and must say it is some of the best TV I have seen in a long time, hope they make a second one.

Edited by mick987 on Thursday 17th June 22:01

Waylanderwife

13 posts

52 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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I've watched the whole series and thought it was brilliant - hope there is a second series in the not too distant future.

I know that JC hams it up for the camera and is seen to be a bit of a blundering baffoon, but I have learnt more about farming due to this series than ever before. I actually feel sorry for farmers and all the extremely hard work they do every year for little reward.

It has made me appreciate farm shops and will actively purchase more fruit and veg from them going forward. I want to buy British and don't object to paying a little more to get home grown goods.

One thing I did wonder though, is how come a woollen jumper costs so much to buy, when a sheep's coat sells for 40p in its pre-processed state?

Kaleb was an absolute star - he might not be worldly wise, but he has a great deal of knowledge for the average 21 year old. Can't imagine him being bored at the weekend and vandalising his local area because there is "nothing to do!!"

Both me and my other half were laughing every time we heard Gerald speak - we reallly struggled to understand the majority of what he said and the whole combine harvester and truck debacle was hilarious.

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15,246 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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Johner said:
Must admit that the first episode rather put me off
It just felt . . . . Well, silly, not funny, silly.

Maybe it's just SWMBO and me, but the small snippets of humour were out weighed by longer periods of boredom

Note;
I am a May, Clarkson, Hammond fan
It does get better from episode 3 onwards!

colin_p

4,503 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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Loved it.

Especially like the final "Goodfellas" episode complete with the Harry Nilsson soundtrack.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

132 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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h0b0 said:
She used to be married to "Baron Bonkers" and has two kids with him. Baron Bonkers is a billionaire (with a "B")

Lisa was also in this plane...

So that's what happens when women try to fly aeroplanes!

Right now I'm feeling more sorry for Clive Waldron.

Ian Geary

4,493 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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I just watched this series over the last couple of days

I had expected lots of arsing around, trading on his name and shouting "I have done a thing!"

But it was incredibly watchable, and I would recommend it.

I always thought jezza did a good job at hiding his intelligence, as he had to maintain a certain facade to keep up his love to hate persona.

But this show was intelligently put together, thought provoking, as well as raising real issues facing UK agriculture.

It was far better than Hammond's escapist, or May's somewhat odd cooking show.

I would agree the inclusion of local characters made it... though Amazon must have looked hard to find someone as calm and sensible as Charlie, though I guess most villages have a Gerald and kaleb around somewhere.

Ps if you're watching it with your 10 year old son, fast forward the bit where he "tests" his rams out.

Turn7

23,618 posts

222 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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snoopygoose said:
I throughly enjoyed it. A lovely bit of escapism and I thought very informative too. This gives a little behind the scenes of the series and Jeremys thoughts:
https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/video-jeremy-clarkson-t...
Linky 404...... 😕

snoopygoose

92 posts

114 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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Turn7 said:
Linky 404...... ??
Thanks. Ive deleted it as I couldn’t get that link to work but it’s on YouTube, farmers weekly interviewing Jeremy

FiF

44,116 posts

252 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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LeadFarmer said:
So that's what happens when women try to fly aeroplanes!

Right now I'm feeling more sorry for Clive Waldron.
Assuming that's meant as a bit of a misogynistic joke?

For the facts. The results of the investigation was that the commander, a Spanish male, ex Spanish Air Force, most experience on C130 Hercs, allowed himself to become overloaded on approach possibly due to difficulty understanding the communications in English from flight control plus the co pilot, also a Spanish male, ex Spanish Air Force and frankly sounds to be a bit of a wet weekend, was not sufficiently engaged in the landing resulting in a landing point further down the runway than normal. This would not have been an issue if spoilers had been deployed but they were not, the co pilot was otherwise engaged and neither crew member observed that the spoilers had not been extended.

The investigation was unable to confirm a statement by the sole passenger, Hogan, that the crew were engaged in an argument and at one point the commander forcibly removed the co pilot hands from controls as they denied there had been any such argument.

Van driver, trapped in seat, removed quickly by Fire and Rescue, minor cuts and bruises only, there is no record if he then went on to buy a lottery ticket.

silobass

1,180 posts

103 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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The link just has a [url at the end - https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/video-jeremy-clarkson-t... should work. Thanks for posting, will watch it in a bit.

Evanivitch

20,117 posts

123 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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DaveGrohl said:
1. Hedgerows. Miles of them.
2. The only sprays that are used on grass are the occasional herbicide, say once in five years if that.
3. There's a lot more living creatures in a field of grass than a lot of arable crops.
4. The soil under grass is more fertile and full of tiny lifeforms than arable soils.
5. Why do you assume grass fields are monoculture?
We have a small area that would be a rewilder's delight. No more life in there than the grass fields and hedges.
Hedgerows are neither a requirement not are they limited to livestock farming. Simple fact is that hedgerows were in massive decline until subsidies were brought in to maintain them.

So spray a herbicide once every few years. Roundup? Or selective? Why would you be spraying a selective...

The idea that there are more living things on grassland is a line that's often pedalled out. There's not much living in scalped grass over winter. Or when foxes, rabbits, deer and badgers are being actively removed from the land.

I'm not pretending arable is any better, but this idea that grass fields are valuable wildlife habitats is a myth perpetuated by farmers.

Blackpuddin

16,545 posts

206 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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austinsmirk said:
It was brilliant and all the better for having normal people in, like Chris, Kaleb and the genius that is Gerald!!

I love kaleb for saying how it is !
yes I'd love to be a fly on the wall if Kaleb ever meets the Queen. Gerald would be even better value.

sclayto2

964 posts

210 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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snoopygoose said:
Thanks. Ive deleted it as I couldn’t get that link to work but it’s on YouTube, farmers weekly interviewing Jeremy
There are a few articles on there: https://www.fwi.co.uk/search?keyword=clarkson

Pistom

4,976 posts

160 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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Keep trying to watch this but my wife keeps catching me so I hurriedly switch over to something she'd be less disgusted with. Hoping she's out long enough for me to see a full episode.

She nearly caught me the other day and accusingly asked - "is that Jeremy Clarkson" but I got away with telling her it was a Dutch porn channel.

coppice

8,623 posts

145 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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My enthusiasm for Clarkson the presenter and writer is in perpetual conflict with my dislike of anti - woke , anti establishment , man of the people Jezza but I am thoroughly enjoying this . I don't farm myself , but many friends do, and this is the first TV programme I have seen which attempts to portray mainstream (-ish ) farming, warts and all .

At the risk of sounding like the man himself , I long ago grew tired of the absurdly inaccurate and idealistic portrayal of UK farming on Countryfile etc , where very farm is a right on , holistic project dedicated to the ethical creation of organic yurts by hipster hobby farmers

J4CKO

41,623 posts

201 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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h0b0 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
mick987 said:
Scabutz said:
Amazon must be writing the cheques for a lot of it I would guess. Nice deal for Jezza. Get paid for a TV show, get your farm partially funded.
I would think with the money Amazon is paying for the series, he could by the farm and machinery many time over.
Ofcourse he could.

His net worth has to be over £100m.

Someone else seemed to hint his OH was even more wealthy, I've no idea on that one personally.
She used to be married to "Baron Bonkers" and has two kids with him. Baron Bonkers is a billionaire (with a "B")

Lisa was also in this plane...

Imagine Clive's insurance claim form ?

"Please detail the makes and models of other vehicles involved - For example 2010 Peugeot 206 HDI"

1974 Learjet 25B