Clarkson’s Farm

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Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

170 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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MikeDB1 said:
But when certain weeds appear - in our case usually ragwort - it's immediately out with the selective weedkiller as that stuff is life-threatening to animals. They will avoid it themselves when grazing, but if it gets mixed in with a crop of hay that's bad news. Also uncontrolled ragwort quickly spreads to neighbouring farms and makes you highly unpopular to say the least.
Which selective do you use for ragwort, and what happens to the dead foliage ? If you can keep reasonably well on top of it, then it's much better to pull it by hand to make sure you get it all.

But until councils, public bodies and other organisations are held to account under the Weeds Act 1959, the war against ragwort will be unending.

DaveGrohl

894 posts

97 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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Condi said:
Evanivitch said:
A minor brain fart rolleyes

So to get it straight, you're using selective weedkillers because you want grass, and not weeds, but there's a whole host of other plants, weeds growing amongst the grass. Contradiction much?

I've grown up amongst farms and farmers. I'm not a farmer. Possibly why I don't swallow the utter rubbish most farmers trot out time and time again.
You're not a farmer, no, and are in a very poor position to contradict those who are or have been.

Pasture, especially permanent pasture has a huge number of different plants in among the grass and under and within hedgerows. It also has a very high insect population which supports all the animals up the chain - birds, bigger insects etc.

Selective weedkiller is used occasionally to control particular species, but by its very nature it doesn't kill most of the other plants. A weedkiller which is very good at controlling docks and thistles will leave many many species of plant (including other "weeds" and grasses) alone due to their mode of action.

You can call it "utter rubbish", although most people would call it "facts".
Evanivitch, it's a shame you're seeking to argue with people with far more knowledge than yourself, especially on a thread that is being so positive about Clarkson's efforts to provide a tiny bit of balance against the unrelenting garbage that is being thrown at the farming industry currently. I'll remove myself from your particular odd cul-de-sac if that's ok and not comment further with you as it's detracting from the thread.

Edited by DaveGrohl on Friday 18th June 21:08

DaveGrohl

894 posts

97 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
MikeDB1 said:
But when certain weeds appear - in our case usually ragwort - it's immediately out with the selective weedkiller as that stuff is life-threatening to animals. They will avoid it themselves when grazing, but if it gets mixed in with a crop of hay that's bad news. Also uncontrolled ragwort quickly spreads to neighbouring farms and makes you highly unpopular to say the least.
Which selective do you use for ragwort, and what happens to the dead foliage ? If you can keep reasonably well on top of it, then it's much better to pull it by hand to make sure you get it all.

But until councils, public bodies and other organisations are held to account under the Weeds Act 1959, the war against ragwort will be unending.
The fortunate thing about ragwort is that you can just pull it out of the ground and it doesn't usually grow back. You get nowhere with that tactic with a lot of weeds.

MikeDB1

238 posts

74 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
MikeDB1 said:
But when certain weeds appear - in our case usually ragwort - it's immediately out with the selective weedkiller as that stuff is life-threatening to animals. They will avoid it themselves when grazing, but if it gets mixed in with a crop of hay that's bad news. Also uncontrolled ragwort quickly spreads to neighbouring farms and makes you highly unpopular to say the least.
Which selective do you use for ragwort, and what happens to the dead foliage ? If you can keep reasonably well on top of it, then it's much better to pull it by hand to make sure you get it all.
If you able to pull it up by hand you've let it go far too far. Should be dealt with when it's just a rosette on the ground. If it gets to flowering stage then it should be cropped and burnt, but otherwise can be left to rot on the land as grazing animals won't touch it.

S100HP

12,678 posts

167 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Haven't read the entire thread yet, but have watched 5 episodes over the last day. A genuinely enjoyable show. Can't work out where I've seen Charlie before?

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
Which selective do you use for ragwort, and what happens to the dead foliage ? If you can keep reasonably well on top of it, then it's much better to pull it by hand to make sure you get it all.

But until councils, public bodies and other organisations are held to account under the Weeds Act 1959, the war against ragwort will be unending.
So good news for the cinnabar moth community then ? Ragwort's fine in the right places - such as the light industrial estate down the road but elsewhere..not so much .

If we are talking about being held to account for failing to comply with legislation I can think of many farmers round here who'd be virtually resident in court .. Some are brilliant , and deserve every credit but the bad 'uns... Jeez ...

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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I love PH.

Thread about a new TV series ends up with a row about who's the most powerfully built farmer with superior weedkiller knowledge.

mick987

1,255 posts

110 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Davey S2 said:
I love PH.

Thread about a new TV series ends up with a row about who's the most powerfully built farmer with superior weedkiller knowledge.
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Davey S2 said:
I love PH.

Thread about a new TV series ends up with a row about who's the most powerfully built farmer with superior weedkiller knowledge.
Lol. They really need to take it outside for a punch up.

It was great, me and the Mrs loved it and she hates anything TG or GT related.

Does Gerald really talk like that as I couldn't understand a single word he said! It wouldn't be that funny on its own but the way JC interacted with him made it really good.

How u doing

27,019 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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You gotta respect Clarkson, some men in his position wind up with right floozies. Clarkson sets his sights firmly at Mrs Doyle.

Doofus

25,819 posts

173 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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mick987 said:
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.
To be fair, that's what Clarkson did in the programme.

Sparky137

869 posts

181 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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S100HP said:
Haven't read the entire thread yet, but have watched 5 episodes over the last day. A genuinely enjoyable show. Can't work out where I've seen Charlie before?
For some reason he reminds me of Quentin Wilson.

Jazzy Jag

3,423 posts

91 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Davey S2 said:
I love PH.

Thread about a new TV series ends up with a row about who's the most powerfully built farmer with superior weedkiller knowledge.
The only weed killer worth a danm is Napalm.

Any fuel, no dat!

rofl

General Price

5,252 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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MikeDB1 said:
If you able to pull it up by hand you've let it go far too far. Should be dealt with when it's just a rosette on the ground. If it gets to flowering stage then it should be cropped and burnt, but otherwise can be left to rot on the land as grazing animals won't touch it.
Sheep love young ragwort.confused

DodgyGeezer

40,452 posts

190 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Had a drive to the cotswolds today - his shop is both a raging success for him and the object of hatred from the locals

NDA

21,574 posts

225 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
Had a drive to the cotswolds today - his shop is both a raging success for him and the object of hatred from the locals
If it's the object of hatred, then that's very sad.

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

170 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Doofus said:
mick987 said:
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.
To be fair, that's what Clarkson did in the programme.
Did he ? Not in any of the episodes I've seen so far.

Venisonpie

3,272 posts

82 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Great entertainment, total antithesis to Countryfile.

48k

13,086 posts

148 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Doofus said:
mick987 said:
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.
To be fair, that's what Clarkson did in the programme.
At no time in any of the episodes can I recall Clarkson telling other farmers how to do their job.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Quite the opposite in fact. Kaleb was asked frequently for advice and help.

But then Doofus does love to troll.