Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)

[614-HSO]

PT1984 said:

I think he is far smarter the internet gives him credit for. He is going to exploit the Radhford connection. As others have said it’s already getting reported on in the online gutters. The Intreage of previously unreported crash will just exacerbate it all. Driving big numbers to the channel. And mat looks good as he made a donation to fare share. He’s looking at the long game. The raffle. And I reckon the Mail online will publish when that goes live.

I didn't say he wouldn't make money on it, unless it cannot be insured, then it cannot be raffled surely.

[VeeTenM]

Love the "stick on" Aliexpress specials on the bodywork from Mansory

Just waiting for Mat to get a smashed up Koenigsegg or similar

[yeager2004]

Unexpected new purchase by Hubnut. I reckon it could languish in his shed for a while, as trying to replace alternator on that engine without a lift looks a nightmare.

[daydotz]

jayemm89 On the subject of your jazz review you may want to try the rare 1.5 i vtec sport manual with its 128bhp & sub 9 sec 0-60 that was sold in the UK

Edited by daydotz on Tuesday 26th March 19:38

[thegreenhell]

Why are you having exactly the same conversation in multiple different threads?

[jayemm89]

The Jazz video has provided what I think might be my favourite comment of all time.

[the tribester]

C5_Steve said:

If only there'd been some sort of warning he drove like a tool that the Police could have investigated to stop this from happening, I don't know, like a video he took of himself doing twice the limit in his Porsche filmed one-handed with his face and speedo in clear view..........that he uploaded to his own Instagram account.......

Couldn't have happened to a nicer person, glad no one else was involved but it's still the taxpayer that has to pick up the bill for the damage to the roadway.

I see the reports say the 2 occupants of the Audi were injured, and in the X driveby video that was posted you see the other car, damaged.

[skwdenyer]

PT1984 said:

I think he is far smarter the internet gives him credit for. He is going to exploit the Radhford connection. As others have said it’s already getting reported on in the online gutters. The Intreage of previously unreported crash will just exacerbate it all. Driving big numbers to the channel. And mat looks good as he made a donation to fare share. He’s looking at the long game. The raffle. And I reckon the Mail online will publish when that goes live.

The problem with a damaged-repaired Mansory (especially one where the true state of the structural damage is laid out on YouTube) is that it simply loses the cachet of being lovingly “improved” by Mansory. It is now a lash-up. Insurance likely won’t be an issue (“computer says not crashed…”) but there’s no chance a prospective buyer doesn’t know the history.

Raffle is one option. Another is selling to a Rashford mega-fan. And other than that? Even on the hire circuit, it will forever be “that” crashed car repaired without a jig in Matt’s unit.

But fair play to him; he’s willing to make big bets!

[WPA]

skwdenyer said:

PT1984 said:

I think he is far smarter the internet gives him credit for. He is going to exploit the Radhford connection. As others have said it’s already getting reported on in the online gutters. The Intreage of previously unreported crash will just exacerbate it all. Driving big numbers to the channel. And mat looks good as he made a donation to fare share. He’s looking at the long game. The raffle. And I reckon the Mail online will publish when that goes live.

The problem with a damaged-repaired Mansory (especially one where the true state of the structural damage is laid out on YouTube) is that it simply loses the cachet of being lovingly “improved” by Mansory. It is now a lash-up. Insurance likely won’t be an issue (“computer says not crashed…”) but there’s no chance a prospective buyer doesn’t know the history.

Raffle is one option. Another is selling to a Rashford mega-fan. And other than that? Even on the hire circuit, it will forever be “that” crashed car repaired without a jig in Matt’s unit.

But fair play to him; he’s willing to make big bets!

Doubt he needs a jig, I raised the point when he repaired the M3 and that had damage far worse.

[PT1984]

Every car that he punts is exactly that. I don’t know how he gets away with it. And to be clear I would not be driving my child, the thing that means the most to me in this world, around in that M3. Even if it cost me a £5 ticket.

The car is not marked as damaged/repaired. Imagine when it gets punted to WBAC with a different plate, then ends up in the hands of a rather unlucky person.

Less chance of that with the RR given how ‘unique’ it is. But I reckon he’ll crack £1m on the raffle on that one with all the exposure it’s had. There are too many young lads who’d love such a thing.

[614-HSO]

WPA said:

skwdenyer said:

PT1984 said:

I think he is far smarter the internet gives him credit for. He is going to exploit the Radhford connection. As others have said it’s already getting reported on in the online gutters. The Intreage of previously unreported crash will just exacerbate it all. Driving big numbers to the channel. And mat looks good as he made a donation to fare share. He’s looking at the long game. The raffle. And I reckon the Mail online will publish when that goes live.

The problem with a damaged-repaired Mansory (especially one where the true state of the structural damage is laid out on YouTube) is that it simply loses the cachet of being lovingly “improved” by Mansory. It is now a lash-up. Insurance likely won’t be an issue (“computer says not crashed…”) but there’s no chance a prospective buyer doesn’t know the history.

Raffle is one option. Another is selling to a Rashford mega-fan. And other than that? Even on the hire circuit, it will forever be “that” crashed car repaired without a jig in Matt’s unit.

But fair play to him; he’s willing to make big bets!

Doubt he needs a jig, I raised the point when he repaired the M3 and that had damage far worse.

The difference between a M3 and a Mansory built RR is huge, the M3 is/was a £70k car the Mansory is/was a £700k car, people at that sort of level, money isn't really an issue.

As I said I think he will make money out of it, but nobody that wins it in a raffle will be able to afford to run the car and if they sell it, would it be more than the £185k Mat paid for it?

[614-HSO]

What Max doesn't know about cars isn't worth knowing.

That Ferrari 333SP is to die for.

[Dracoro]

614-HSO said:

As I said I think he will make money out of it, but nobody that wins it in a raffle will be able to afford to run the car and if they sell it, would it be more than the £185k Mat paid for it?

Does it matter? Mat paid £185 and made profit (via YT and raffle etc.)

Winner of raffle only pays £10 and can no doubt sell it for more so they’re not out of pocket.

Everyone’s a winner as Delboy would say

[InformationSuperHighway]

PT1984 said:

Every car that he punts is exactly that. I don’t know how he gets away with it. And to be clear I would not be driving my child, the thing that means the most to me in this world, around in that M3. Even if it cost me a £5 ticket.

The car is not marked as damaged/repaired. Imagine when it gets punted to WBAC with a different plate, then ends up in the hands of a rather unlucky person.

Less chance of that with the RR given how ‘unique’ it is. But I reckon he’ll crack £1m on the raffle on that one with all the exposure it’s had. There are too many young lads who’d love such a thing.

This has always been my issue with the repairs, but my concern comes from a place of naivety regarding how cars are built and repaired.

I was always under the impression that parts such as C pillars and rear quarter damage was often terminal because it was part of a single monocoque.. but..

When you look at how the monocoque is constructed.. it's just panels welded and glued together.

If Mat repairs the panels in the same way they were constructed in the first place, is there an issue?

I agree though, I would be hesitant to drive my family around in one. So if I won a raffle (I don't even enter) I'd punt it on quickly and then it ends up in the hands of someone who doesn't know the past.

I am still very torn on the whole subject.

Can anyone who has more experience in crash repairs shed any light on monocoque damage like the M3?

[614-HSO]

I find it very cynical the raffling off these rebuilt crashed cars if I'm honest, maybe even bordering on treating the viewer/supporter with contempt, even Tom/TGE peddling any tat and scalping opportunities to his viewers to Archies method;

looking for a new car
collects new car
wraps car
new wheels on car
new exhaust
what I like/dislike about car
should I sell car
sold the car
etc videos

To,
buys wrecked car
collects car
has more damage than I thought
takes car apart
putting bits back on car
putting more bits back on car
huge problem
huge problem solved
resprayed
can finished
punts car out to viewers
(laughs all the way to the bank)

and I just hope there isn't ever a follow up video where someone gets killed in or by the car.

[Munka01]

Haven't seen mentioned here before but enjoying these weekly episodes of a week as a car dealer (Shifting Metal). Likable chap and interesting content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2lTzbmfMoY

[fridaypassion]

Yeah I watch a lot of his stuff quite a monotone delivery but it is interesting

[WPA]

InformationSuperHighway said:

This has always been my issue with the repairs, but my concern comes from a place of naivety regarding how cars are built and repaired.

I was always under the impression that parts such as C pillars and rear quarter damage was often terminal because it was part of a single monocoque.. but..

When you look at how the monocoque is constructed.. it's just panels welded and glued together.

If Mat repairs the panels in the same way they were constructed in the first place, is there an issue?

I agree though, I would be hesitant to drive my family around in one. So if I won a raffle (I don't even enter) I'd punt it on quickly and then it ends up in the hands of someone who doesn't know the past.

I am still very torn on the whole subject.

Can anyone who has more experience in crash repairs shed any light on monocoque damage like the M3?

I said it at the time that my main issues were plug welded and not spot, from what I understand plug welds are stronger so the panels my not give or deform as original.

Also no weld through primer on any seam, not painting the inside of the panels and very little seam sealer, it will be ok in the short term but will be rusty as hell in later life and be very obvious that it has a big repair.

Main Mat thread: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[AlexNJ89]

614-HSO said:

I find it very cynical the raffling off these rebuilt crashed cars if I'm honest, maybe even bordering on treating the viewer/supporter with contempt, even Tom/TGE peddling any tat and scalping opportunities to his viewers to Archies method;
.

On the subject of TGE. I watch his videos out of habit now because I used to enjoy them but he seems to have just given up entirely.

There is zero soul or humour to his videos anymore. It used to be exciting when he was at a dealership as he may actually buy something. Like when he spontaneously bought a brand new Aston Martin Vantage AMR from Edinburgh then took it to the South of France.

[simon_harris]

skwdenyer said:

PT1984 said:

I think he is far smarter the internet gives him credit for. He is going to exploit the Radhford connection. As others have said it’s already getting reported on in the online gutters. The Intreage of previously unreported crash will just exacerbate it all. Driving big numbers to the channel. And mat looks good as he made a donation to fare share. He’s looking at the long game. The raffle. And I reckon the Mail online will publish when that goes live.

The problem with a damaged-repaired Mansory (especially one where the true state of the structural damage is laid out on YouTube) is that it simply loses the cachet of being lovingly “improved” by Mansory. It is now a lash-up. Insurance likely won’t be an issue (“computer says not crashed…”) but there’s no chance a prospective buyer doesn’t know the history.

Raffle is one option. Another is selling to a Rashford mega-fan. And other than that? Even on the hire circuit, it will forever be “that” crashed car repaired without a jig in Matt’s unit.

But fair play to him; he’s willing to make big bets!

It's worth having a look at a few of the repairs that this guy does - far more extensive than anything MA has done so far and I am pretty sure at one point he has a car back in that he rebuilt that was in another crash, held up just the same as it did originally.

https://www.youtube.com/@vehcor

Properly repaired there should be no difference in the level of protection offered from a crash repaired car to an OEM one.