Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)

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KillerHERTZ said:

acer12 said:

Wind your neck in like a good lad.

As poster above said, just an observation, a curious one (similar to my curious question earlier), is that not what a forum is about?

This thread is just a sespit of negativity towards people who have actually bothered to pursue their hobby/dream etc.

I guess it's just the usual British mentality.

Some have, Some are already privileged and are just showing off their wealth and making even more money from it.

[Dave200]

KillerHERTZ said:

acer12 said:

Wind your neck in like a good lad.

As poster above said, just an observation, a curious one (similar to my curious question earlier), is that not what a forum is about?

This thread is just a sespit of negativity towards people who have actually bothered to pursue their hobby/dream etc.

I guess it's just the usual British mentality.

Isn't it just a thread where people discuss youtube channels and content? If these people are making money from their content then they shouldn't need to worry about the opinions of a few people on forums. It's also got nothing to do with being British.

[Kev_Mk3]

WarrenB said:

InformationSuperHighway said:

WarrenB said:

Unexpected upload from CarThrottle



Couple of new guys hosting, though they have briefly featured on the channel in the distant past.

They confirm quite early on that 'the guys have moved on'.

Fair play, they do address it all up front and even take the piss out of themselves a bit.

I'll give it a watch fully and see.

Really don't think it was that bad. Obviously CT is going off in a different direction, but thought it was decent enough that they acknowledged it.

Alex the new Alex I've met a few times hes a nice bloke. He also has another channel Camber and Combustion where he and his mate drive on track very laddish.

CT is dead and I said he is brave as they are getting slated.

[SVJBalboni]

PT1984 said:

The above is true. I do hope he finds his mojo again. But for me Tony puts me off the podcast.

The only format for me which just works is Harry and his Garage. Even though the format is rather repetitive. I just can’t see it getting old. There’s just enough variation with the bike, restoration, travel and auction content. And all that metal in the garage and there isn’t a hint of arrogance. Which is something STG doesn’t always pull off.

Tony comes off as clueless and negative about a lot of cars being discussed unless, of course, it's a Porsche or Ferrari.

[h0b0]

acer12 said:

Anyone know the reason for some popular youtubers creating multiple channels and actively posting videos to them all? As expected videos launched on a different channel with less subscribers gets less views so why have the 2nd channel if you are setting your self up for lower views?

Does youtube cap a channels income so it makes sense to have more than one channel?

For autoalex I am guessing its maybe a profit split as some presenters go solo on alex2 but then you have hoovies garage with several channels with his latest one being "little hoovies garage", videos on this channel are getting sub 50k versus 500k on his main channel for videos that take the same LOE.

Matt Armstrong is another one, channels are very similar so why have 2?

The main channel gets promoted through the algorithm based on views. If they posted the extra/behind the scenes content it would not get the same number of views and would bring the channel average down. That would lead to less promotion. By having the second channel they can give additional content. This can include nerdy stuff that might turn off the main channel. However, most of these second channels have viewing figures that make the majority of YouTubers envious. That means they are still a lucrative income stream with different sponsors who may not be suitable, or afford, the main channel.

[jon-]

Dave200 said:

KillerHERTZ said:

acer12 said:

But how many are real, gets a few big hit videos now and then, but most averages around the 100k per video which is one of the lowest return on subs that I see.

Why must people on here be so negative? Does it make you feel better to put a downer on someone else's success?

How is your channel coming along? If you even have one

I don't think that's negative at all, just an observation. There was someone on here with a youtube channel that only had a handful of subscribers speaking on behalf of all youtubers earlier this week. That's equally weird to me.

I dug into Car Wizard as I found your comments interesting and he seems to be on what I call the "JayEmm growth plan" - ie post lots of content.

I'll never forget Jay overtaking me when I was about 200k subs, his average views per video were way below mine at the time, but now he has 350k subs and I'm only on 230k! If you go look at the channels last 10 video performance you'd be mistaken to think my channel is healthier as I'm averaging around 350k views and Jay is not, but in reality he's had 2.5m views and 6k subs in the last 28 days and 931k views and 2k subs. He was way more successful at YouTube than I am.

In short, views per video is only one metric of many important ones and I could see someone like Car Wizard having a really 1m subs with the amount he posts and having another big youtuber as a springboard.

[fridaypassion]

Depends on what your hourly rate is at the end!

[jayemm89]

jon- said:

I dug into Car Wizard as I found your comments interesting and he seems to be on what I call the "JayEmm growth plan" - ie post lots of content.

I'll never forget Jay overtaking me when I was about 200k subs, his average views per video were way below mine at the time, but now he has 350k subs and I'm only on 230k! If you go look at the channels last 10 video performance you'd be mistaken to think my channel is healthier as I'm averaging around 350k views and Jay is not, but in reality he's had 2.5m views and 6k subs in the last 28 days and 931k views and 2k subs. He was way more successful at YouTube than I am.

Mat Armstrong was also a much smaller channel than either of us at one point, so I wouldn't say I've got the best recipe for success!

I think - and of course it's impossible to say for sure - that the variety of content I have featured might play a part here. It means that I'm unlikely to get as many views on a BMW video as, say, Joe Achilles - but if he features a Lotus nobody will be interested. I've done everything from Alfas to Wartburgs and though very few are big hit videos the audience is diverse. To give an indication, and I don't know how this compares for you Jon, I'm at 350K subscribers but 1.2m "unique viewers". Wish the buggers would click that button!

I would *love* to be in a position where I can release one video a week, knowing it'll do half a million views - but I feel like that is a long way off. Until then I shall simply carry on my policy of little and often. Mad respect for the amount of effort you put into the videos, they're quality.

[PinkHouse]

jayemm89 said:

jon- said:

I dug into Car Wizard as I found your comments interesting and he seems to be on what I call the "JayEmm growth plan" - ie post lots of content.

I'll never forget Jay overtaking me when I was about 200k subs, his average views per video were way below mine at the time, but now he has 350k subs and I'm only on 230k! If you go look at the channels last 10 video performance you'd be mistaken to think my channel is healthier as I'm averaging around 350k views and Jay is not, but in reality he's had 2.5m views and 6k subs in the last 28 days and 931k views and 2k subs. He was way more successful at YouTube than I am.

Mat Armstrong was also a much smaller channel than either of us at one point, so I wouldn't say I've got the best recipe for success!

I think - and of course it's impossible to say for sure - that the variety of content I have featured might play a part here. It means that I'm unlikely to get as many views on a BMW video as, say, Joe Achilles - but if he features a Lotus nobody will be interested. I've done everything from Alfas to Wartburgs and though very few are big hit videos the audience is diverse. To give an indication, and I don't know how this compares for you Jon, I'm at 350K subscribers but 1.2m "unique viewers". Wish the buggers would click that button!

I would *love* to be in a position where I can release one video a week, knowing it'll do half a million views - but I feel like that is a long way off. Until then I shall simply carry on my policy of little and often. Mad respect for the amount of effort you put into the videos, they're quality.

This is the kind of context that makes this thread worth following

[jayemm89]

Happy to be of service

For reference, anybody and everybody who comes to me that wants to build a channel with the aim of making money gets told the same thing - get your videos good, then get out at least two a week. Follow that formula, you should be safe - but expect it still to take 3-4 years to be close to replacing a proper job.

[audi321]

jayemm89 said:

Happy to be of service

For reference, anybody and everybody who comes to me that wants to build a channel with the aim of making money gets told the same thing - get your videos good, then get out at least two a week. Follow that formula, you should be safe - but expect it still to take 3-4 years to be close to replacing a proper job.

Well you’ve just got a few more subs from me and mates. Didn’t know there were YouTubers on PH

[JustGetATesla]

jayemm89 said:

Happy to be of service

For reference, anybody and everybody who comes to me that wants to build a channel with the aim of making money gets told the same thing - get your videos good, then get out at least two a week. Follow that formula, you should be safe - but expect it still to take 3-4 years to be close to replacing a proper job.

I watched loads of YouTuber's channels - including yours Jayemm! - before deciding to give this a go. I've been going 18 months and am north of 5k subscribers - which is nothing. But plenty of other people out there doing more than me with way less subscribers and views. I'm still discovering what works and what doesn't - and sometimes you have a video that does great and do similar and it does poorly. Whatever.

My channel is very much a vlog - filming what I am doing and thinking and reading about. I've narrowed my appeal to Tesla drivers and EV haters, but at least I have a USP. Videos are shot in my spare time - Dropped to 1 a week last autumn but at least they're out at 4pmn every Friday in a slot that people want to watch videos in.

As for the business side, its a very useful secondary activity for my existing business. I can do the things I was going to do anyway - recent pair of videos doing a day trip over Bealach na Ba in the snow - and have it as a tax deductable expense. I don't expect to make a living from it so there's no pressure to endlessly drive growth. Just the usual pressure of idea > shoot > edit > upload > thumbnail & description. I've got several weeks worth of stuff already ulpaded and timed to go out. Which is better than getting to Thursday with "what am I putting out tomorrow"

Don't know how Jayemm et al do on that front - lots in the bank, or working very last minute?

[red_duke]

jayemm89 said:

… I'm at 350K subscribers but 1.2m "unique viewers". Wish the buggers would click that button!

Oops. Guilty. Now subscribed!

[Dracoro]

I think the problem with subscribing is the term itself, for many people (prob moreso middle aged to old) “subscription” means paying regularly (e.g. like magazine subscriptions) for something. So prob don’t subscribe as they think they have to pay for it.

“Subscribing” in YT world is obv free but I think many YouTubers miss that chance to tell those watching that subscribing doesn’t cost anything and that it’s simply a way to effectively bookmark/notify them of new content.

[jayemm89]

JustGetATesla said:

Don't know how Jayemm et al do on that front - lots in the bank, or working very last minute?

I can't speak for others, but for me it's key to have a buffer. I try and keep a minimum of two week's content primed and ready, up to 2-3 months in Summer (when I'm filming a lot). It's handy for situations like this week, where I've had to cancel filming three times due to weather.

I am also fortunate in that most of the cars I feature are older ones, so there's no time pressure to get stuff out.

You could tell when COVID arrived in 2020 who worked this way and who did not - I had two months of pre-filmed stuff in the bank, but other YTers pretty much stopped as soon as lockdown arrived because they were filming and releasing with very short turnaround times.

I'm not saying one method is better than the other, but this is the one that works for me. This morning I should have been filming, but instead I used the time to get an edit done.

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Kev_Mk3 said:

WarrenB said:

InformationSuperHighway said:

WarrenB said:

Unexpected upload from CarThrottle



Couple of new guys hosting, though they have briefly featured on the channel in the distant past.

They confirm quite early on that 'the guys have moved on'.

Fair play, they do address it all up front and even take the piss out of themselves a bit.

I'll give it a watch fully and see.

Really don't think it was that bad. Obviously CT is going off in a different direction, but thought it was decent enough that they acknowledged it.

Alex the new Alex I've met a few times hes a nice bloke. He also has another channel Camber and Combustion where he and his mate drive on track very laddish.

CT is dead and I said he is brave as they are getting slated.

I’ll still watch and subscribe.
I fast forward 90% of High Peaks Autos and Auto Alex I’ll skip a lot of the crap !

What news of the CT 2 though ? Where are they, As Ethan didn’t want to risk leaving a year ago has he taken redundancy ?

[Kev_Mk3]

Downward said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

WarrenB said:

InformationSuperHighway said:

WarrenB said:

Unexpected upload from CarThrottle



Couple of new guys hosting, though they have briefly featured on the channel in the distant past.

They confirm quite early on that 'the guys have moved on'.

Fair play, they do address it all up front and even take the piss out of themselves a bit.

I'll give it a watch fully and see.

Really don't think it was that bad. Obviously CT is going off in a different direction, but thought it was decent enough that they acknowledged it.

Alex the new Alex I've met a few times hes a nice bloke. He also has another channel Camber and Combustion where he and his mate drive on track very laddish.

CT is dead and I said he is brave as they are getting slated.

I’ll still watch and subscribe.
I fast forward 90% of High Peaks Autos and Auto Alex I’ll skip a lot of the crap !

What news of the CT 2 though ? Where are they, As Ethan didn’t want to risk leaving a year ago has he taken redundancy ?

They will join Alex shortly

[PinkHouse]

Kev_Mk3 said:

Downward said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

WarrenB said:

InformationSuperHighway said:

WarrenB said:

Unexpected upload from CarThrottle



Couple of new guys hosting, though they have briefly featured on the channel in the distant past.

They confirm quite early on that 'the guys have moved on'.

Fair play, they do address it all up front and even take the piss out of themselves a bit.

I'll give it a watch fully and see.

Really don't think it was that bad. Obviously CT is going off in a different direction, but thought it was decent enough that they acknowledged it.

Alex the new Alex I've met a few times hes a nice bloke. He also has another channel Camber and Combustion where he and his mate drive on track very laddish.

CT is dead and I said he is brave as they are getting slated.

I’ll still watch and subscribe.
I fast forward 90% of High Peaks Autos and Auto Alex I’ll skip a lot of the crap !

What news of the CT 2 though ? Where are they, As Ethan didn’t want to risk leaving a year ago has he taken redundancy ?

They will join Alex shortly

At some point Autoalex will be bought by Crash Media group or Dennis Publishing and we'll have gone full circle

[Voldemort]

Dracoro said:

I think the problem with subscribing is the term itself, for many people (prob moreso middle aged to old) “subscription” means paying regularly (e.g. like magazine subscriptions) for something. So prob don’t subscribe as they think they have to pay for it.

“Subscribing” in YT world is obv free but I think many YouTubers miss that chance to tell those watching that subscribing doesn’t cost anything and that it’s simply a way to effectively bookmark/notify them of new content.

Yes. For far too long I thought that to subscribe would mean making payments.

[Voldemort]

Also,I have never hit the [like] button. What's the point of that? If I like it I will watch more and if I don't I have already moved on to something else.