Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)

[Wills2]

jon- said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

thegreenhell said:

jon- said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

You mean the king of the ring and one of the slowest members of his race team hopefully not

??

I think he's referring to Misha Crashagain.

correct

The implication is that he can't actually drive, but after that many laps of the ring without too many crashes I'm going to assume he can. He must have some fast teammates.

He also reckoned he'd beat Hamilton around the ring, certainly confident if nothing else.

[The Moose]

I’m not a huge fan of Mark McCann but this was funny

[yeager2004]

Why do YouTubers' subscribers get so upset when the YouTuber makes a sensible and pragmatic decision to sell one of their many cars?

I saw on FB Hubnut is selling his Citroen GSA. Some of the comments are so OTT and emotive. Are people these really that emotionally attached to someone else's car?

[honda_exige]

Wills2 said:

jon- said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

thegreenhell said:

jon- said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

You mean the king of the ring and one of the slowest members of his race team hopefully not

??

I think he's referring to Misha Crashagain.

correct

The implication is that he can't actually drive, but after that many laps of the ring without too many crashes I'm going to assume he can. He must have some fast teammates.

He also reckoned he'd beat Hamilton around the ring, certainly confident if nothing else.

Quite fun to take the quote out of Context but against a Hamilton who's never driven the Nurburgring I don't think, yes he would be quicker, that's what he meant.

That's not outlandish and is the most realistic outcome. F1 drivers are incredible but they aren't deities, they still need to learn a track + car.

[pork911]

fridaypassion said:

Dont pander to the basement dwellers on here Matt just keep doing what you're doing. I think any grown up with experience of proper cars has either been in a ditch themselves or can at least sympathise when someone else ends up in one!

Cringe bks

[fridaypassion]

Wills2 said:

He also reckoned he'd beat Hamilton around the ring, certainly confident if nothing else.

To be fair he's not slow. I think Hamilton would be slower on his first lap and significantly quicker by lap 10. Knowledge is power at the Ring and unless Lewis has been banging secret laps in then Misha is right. It does come across as a pretty arrogant thing to say out of context but in the context he said it... Not so much. My issue with Misha is more the lax approach to casually lapping at very high speed in an unfamiliar car often with very poor condition cars with brakes going off and the like. He leaves very little margin and it promotes the general "knobheadery" that seems to have saturated the Nurburgring over the last 4 or 5 years.

Not sure if it was touched on before but it looks like his escapades have been curtailed now as the car hire companies have complained that he's basically doing taxi laps. I'm not sure how much Misha has single handily affected the bottom line of Ring Taxi but there's you go.

I'd love to see a head to head with Dale Lomas (King of the Nurburgring for grown ups) and Misha. Dale is vastly more experienced and I think would trounce Misha.

[614-HSO]

jon- said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

thegreenhell said:

jon- said:

Kev_Mk3 said:

You mean the king of the ring and one of the slowest members of his race team hopefully not

??

I think he's referring to Misha Crashagain.

correct

The implication is that he can't actually drive, but after that many laps of the ring without too many crashes I'm going to assume he can. He must have some fast teammates.

This the race team https://performance.bilstein.com/en/raceteam/

I have fallen out with watching Misha myself, but to say he cannot drive the Nring is silly.

[jon-]

fridaypassion said:

Wills2 said:

He also reckoned he'd beat Hamilton around the ring, certainly confident if nothing else.

To be fair he's not slow. I think Hamilton would be slower on his first lap and significantly quicker by lap 10. Knowledge is power at the Ring and unless Lewis has been banging secret laps in then Misha is right. It does come across as a pretty arrogant thing to say out of context but in the context he said it... Not so much. My issue with Misha is more the lax approach to casually lapping at very high speed in an unfamiliar car often with very poor condition cars with brakes going off and the like. He leaves very little margin and it promotes the general "knobheadery" that seems to have saturated the Nurburgring over the last 4 or 5 years.

Not sure if it was touched on before but it looks like his escapades have been curtailed now as the car hire companies have complained that he's basically doing taxi laps. I'm not sure how much Misha has single handily affected the bottom line of Ring Taxi but there's you go.

I'd love to see a head to head with Dale Lomas (King of the Nurburgring for grown ups) and Misha. Dale is vastly more experienced and I think would trounce Misha.

Gotta agree on the car thing, takes some balls to jump in a car you don't know the history of and go that fast at the ring, though I'm not sure people driving at the limit on a "race track" (or whatever you want to call it) should be looked down on.

I thought apex were one of the taxi companies. He's still publishing a lot of content on the ring so doesn't seem to have been that curtailed?

I think it would take Hamilton more than 10 laps to get on top of the ring if he's never done a lap IRL or in a sim.

[InformationSuperHighway]

pork911 said:

fridaypassion said:

Dont pander to the basement dwellers on here Matt just keep doing what you're doing. I think any grown up with experience of proper cars has either been in a ditch themselves or can at least sympathise when someone else ends up in one!

Cringe bks

He's right though, this thread has been awful these past few days.

[fridaypassion]

jon- said:

Gotta agree on the car thing, takes some balls to jump in a car you don't know the history of and go that fast at the ring, though I'm not sure people driving at the limit on a "race track" (or whatever you want to call it) should be looked down on.

I thought apex were one of the taxi companies. He's still publishing a lot of content on the ring so doesn't seem to have been that curtailed?

I think it would take Hamilton more than 10 laps to get on top of the ring if he's never done a lap IRL or in a sim.

Yeah in terms of cars I buy a car to do the trip in normally and it gets kitted out with new brakes/tyres/race fluid just for the trackday. Plus a full inspection front to back. If I take one of my own cars everything is checked and checked again. It's amazing how many people don't have basics like brakes working but then if you are just going for fun you probably might not know this stuff but Misha does and it's a danger.

He did a video in January saying about the taxi companies complaining. I think Apex have packed in now I feel asleep during Roberts explanation video that ASMR tone of his just makes me so drowsy.

On Hamilton we're probably on a thread drift now but I would say if he knocked a good few sim laps out and then did 10 laps with an instructor he wouldn't have mastered the track but world likely be quicker than most normal people just coz race driver they are just weird like that. Especially him being a generational talent. Remember he did the top gear record in the wet!

[Truckosaurus]

yeager2004 said:

Why do YouTubers' subscribers get so upset when the YouTuber makes a sensible and pragmatic decision to sell one of their many cars?

I saw on FB Hubnut is selling his Citroen GSA. Some of the comments are so OTT and emotive. Are people these really that emotionally attached to someone else's car?

Indeed. I don't follow Hubnut on FB so haven't seen the comments, but he seems the sort of chap who won't have made the decision lightly so there should be no reason to criticise him.

As the quoted post says, it is no doubt the sensible decision, the GSA must be worth 'something' so its sale can fund other projects.

If he was properly sensible the Aussie Ford would go as well, as he always seems to complain it is too thirsty when he drives it

Perhaps use the funds to get a better Berlingo for daily/family/towing duties.

[thegreenhell]

jon- said:

I thought apex were one of the taxi companies. He's still publishing a lot of content on the ring so doesn't seem to have been that curtailed?

Apex are no more, just a hotel and no cars. He's set up his own company now doing something different, but still driving for youtube.

He has a licence to film there but not to give taxi rides. Apparently he's been told by Nurburgring management that if he wants to continue filming all of these laps in other people's cars then the car owners have to buy their own lap tickets and not get free laps on his season ticket.

He's also said he's not going to drive stboxes anymore after too many car failures on track. That's understandable, but a bit of a shame as a viewer. Not that I want to see failures, but they were often the more interesting cars. I won't watch if it's just going to be endless tuned modern BMWs and Audis.

[Rusty Old-Banger]

Just catching up. I see Mat A's acting talents haven't improved... I mean, I'm sure he is actually genuinely gutted to have binned the Lambo, but his behaviour to camera afterwards reminds me of my teenage daughter when she hears that one of the other girls in the group has been banned from Snapchat or something. That rear passenger corner though, crikey that looks like a very expensive fix.

Edited by Rusty Old-Banger on Wednesday 17th April 10:41

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Anyone else finding the skid factory going a bit off the boil since its now the Woody show?

Dont get me wrong i like Woody but i feel its really missing Al

[thegreenhell]

fridaypassion said:

On Hamilton we're probably on a thread drift now but I would say if he knocked a good few sim laps out and then did 10 laps with an instructor he wouldn't have mastered the track but world likely be quicker than most normal people just coz race driver they are just weird like that. Especially him being a generational talent. Remember he did the top gear record in the wet!

I don't doubt that Misha, and probably any of us who know the track well, would be quicker than Hamilton on his first ever lap when he doesn't know where he's going. After that, no chance.

One of my favourite vids is Misha's lap with Robert Kubica. This was his first visit to the track IRL, although he said he'd driven it in iRacing to learn where the corners go. He was obviously already quicker than Misha after just a handful of laps, so I don't doubt that Hamilton would quickly exceed any normal driver's efforts.

[WelshGTI]

B0unty_Hunter said:

mat-fos36 said:

Wow! Some comments from people are crazy in here. I knew I wasn’t going to win either way but I didn’t realise people would think it was a fake crash!

Filming wise it’s just a natural thing. If you put yourself in my shoes 5days a week I get up have breakfast and I’m instantly behind a camera until very late in the evening. The only days I’m not is when I’m editing. So when anything happens good or bad your natural instinct after 5 years of doing this is just to immediately film. Same for my team and my partner. Don’t get me wrong if I was burning alive I’m sure they wouldn’t have been filming (but if I survived afterwards they know I would of asked them if they filmed it haha) but both of them knew I was fine before arriving.

I can tell you for free AR1’s are terrible in the wet. Slight bit of sitting water and your aquaplaining. It’s not an excuse and everyone makes mistakes but no one was hurt and I’ve learned from it. But for sure I’ve had every pro driver in the comments haha

My take is there is an obvious discrepancy in the clip - firstly you stated you werent booting it at all, later you said you were in 2nd gear at 30mph as the limit changed to 50mph.
2nd gear at 30 to accelerate into a 50 sure seems to be booting it territory to me

Just because he was in second gear and accelerated to a 50 does not mean booting it at all, he could of gradually accelerated towards 50. But I don't know and I don't know, so why bother trying to assume the worse.

[simon_harris]

WelshGTI said:

B0unty_Hunter said:

mat-fos36 said:

Wow! Some comments from people are crazy in here. I knew I wasn’t going to win either way but I didn’t realise people would think it was a fake crash!

Filming wise it’s just a natural thing. If you put yourself in my shoes 5days a week I get up have breakfast and I’m instantly behind a camera until very late in the evening. The only days I’m not is when I’m editing. So when anything happens good or bad your natural instinct after 5 years of doing this is just to immediately film. Same for my team and my partner. Don’t get me wrong if I was burning alive I’m sure they wouldn’t have been filming (but if I survived afterwards they know I would of asked them if they filmed it haha) but both of them knew I was fine before arriving.

I can tell you for free AR1’s are terrible in the wet. Slight bit of sitting water and your aquaplaining. It’s not an excuse and everyone makes mistakes but no one was hurt and I’ve learned from it. But for sure I’ve had every pro driver in the comments haha

My take is there is an obvious discrepancy in the clip - firstly you stated you werent booting it at all, later you said you were in 2nd gear at 30mph as the limit changed to 50mph.
2nd gear at 30 to accelerate into a 50 sure seems to be booting it territory to me

Just because he was in second gear and accelerated to a 50 does not mean booting it at all, he could of gradually accelerated towards 50. But I don't know and I don't know, so why bother trying to assume the worse.

I used to have a fully forged engined single TB 450bhp R33 GTR, converted to RWD only. The configuration of the turbo vs throttle Body, cams etc meant that it gained over 300bhp in less than 2000 rpm so it was a bit spicy when it came on boost. and despite living with it in all weathers for over a year (it was my DD) it would still occasionally catch me out and get sideways very quickly even in the dry.

When I crashed it I was doing less than 30 mph in second, the rears span up as I accelerated away from a roundabout, I over corrected and came off the power to quickly and it snapped back the other way. Had it not been for the parked cars by the side of the road I just would have spun it and felt very silly, it all happened so quickly that I was taken completely by surprise.

I too was amazed by just how much distance it took to come to a stop despite hitting (and writing off) two other cars.

[fridaypassion]

All the heros on here could handle it despite a 1.0 Polo being their peak car to date

[jayemm89]

To echo the above, I've driven a few fairly spicy modded turbo cars and when they come on boost you really don't have much control over it.

I turned down a 900hp GTR for review years ago because I expected that it would just not have been an enjoyable drive, and if I'm not going to enjoy it why risk it?

[RacingBlue]

yeager2004 said:

Why do YouTubers' subscribers get so upset when the YouTuber makes a sensible and pragmatic decision to sell one of their many cars?

I saw on FB Hubnut is selling his Citroen GSA. Some of the comments are so OTT and emotive. Are people these really that emotionally attached to someone else's car?

It's weird. But then again I find it weird buying merch with someone else's car on it as well.