Obi Wan Kenobi Disney+

[SlimJim16v]

Sheets Tabuer said:

If you've never been in to the animated series here's a fight between Ashoka and Maul to show you he's still alive.

Yes, I've seen Clone Wars on your recommendation. But didn't Maul have help to screw him back together?

[Sheets Tabuer]

Screw who?

[Sheets Tabuer]

Do you mean Anakin? no Anakin was the chosen one he had a midichlorian count of over 30k perhaps to 40k, obi wan had a count of 13k. He was insanely powerful but after his fight with Obi Wan he had his arms and legs cut off therefore diminishing his potential. In fact in the comics Palpatine was disgusted with him. He thought he was going to rule the SIth bt after he's been mutilated by obi wan he'd lost most of his ability and was less power than palpatine.

He was reduced to being palatines bh rather than the sith master, his story really is quite sad,

[SlimJim16v]

Sheets Tabuer said:

Screw who?

Maul, he must've had help to survive and turn him into spider Maul?

[Sheets Tabuer]

He went in to exile on Litho minor and made legs out of droids, later he made legs from battle droids.

God I hate I know this

You really need to watch Clone wars and rebels.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

As we've drifted OT a little...

I love to see them make Death Troopers. Possibly animated as they seem able to make great animated stuff... Just not LA.

[Bullett]

Caught up with this over the weekend, which tells you a lot, after watching it on release day for Ep1 we got further and further behind.

I think most of it has been covered, the DV/OWK fight was good but with obviously no peril.
We have established a Lightsabre to the gut is not fatal.
I have no idea what the whole Reva/Luke bit was about. Made no sense.
And a shout out to the least convincing space flight FX since the original Flash Gordon series.

Who's hopeful for Andor?

[Flip Martian]

Sheets Tabuer said:

The grand inquisitor is a Pau'an, he has two stomachs, it's likely her stabbing him wasn't a major event.

Ok. But she was still trying to kill him. Surely she would know what he was and that he had 2 stomachs. And how is being run through by a super hot lightsaber so you can see right through someone, not a major event?!

Edited by Flip Martian on Tuesday 5th July 10:34

[Flip Martian]

Bullett said:

We have established a Lightsabre to the gut is not fatal.

But only for those on the darkside. Or who have 2 stomachs.

[Marumi]

MBBlat said:

This may answer some of the questions about plot holes
https://youtu.be/UDS1QelBiLM

The great irony is that someone earlier in the thread was complaining about people trashing Star Wars and Disney just because they're Star Wars and Disney, when this kind of utter crap shows the truth - people will defend this utter dumpster-fire of a program just BECAUSE it is Star Wars.

That video is absolutely laughable. Really cringeworthy.

[anonymous-user]

Marumi said:

The great irony is that someone earlier in the thread was complaining about people trashing Star Wars and Disney just because they're Star Wars and Disney, when this kind of utter crap shows the truth - people will defend this utter dumpster-fire of a program just BECAUSE it is Star Wars.

That video is absolutely laughable. Really cringeworthy.

That’s sort of my point, if you don’t like Star Wars or even some of the films or tv series why waste time moaning about it?

[Flip Martian]

Newarch said:

That’s sort of my point, if you don’t like Star Wars or even some of the films or tv series why waste time moaning about it?

It's not about "not liking Star Wars". It's about not liking poor script writing. None of the comments as far as I can remember are "haha SW is crap". It's "dear God the writing on Kenobi is so bad". Mostly from people who enjoyed some of the other SW series already done.

[Marumi]

Newarch said:

That’s sort of my point, if you don’t like Star Wars or even some of the films or tv series why waste time moaning about it?

Because I DO like Star Wars, I just don't like this utter ste and am not blinded by fandom, as you appear to be?

[Nightmare]

Enjoyed it but completely agree it was really shoddily written in parts. The ‘second available ship magically appearing’ was a particular low, but even the badly choreographed chase of Leia in the first episode grated a fair bit. Same with the stormtroopers all missing from point blank range which was just silly.

One thing though - the ‘reva killing Luke’ was about revenge surely? She learns (through 3 broken words on a smashed recorder - some skills there) that Vader has a son (and where he is and who to ask for. Amazing!) and decides ‘he killed all my kid friends so I’m going to kill his’ i think. Then realises she can’t, she isn’t really like him etc and as pointed out gets let off for all the other stuff we DID see her do.

Also Ewan’s sword fighting choreography is just godawful from the standpoint of a lifetime sword fighter - personally I don’t think ridiculous sword twirling is where it’s at. The reason it was so good in the original trilogy is that it was choreographed by a fencing master who fully considered the concept of a blade made of light. The new fighting utterly ignores that. I’d have killed them both within about 3 seconds!

Still was good fun and very Star Warsy

[anonymous-user]

Nightmare said:

Also Ewan’s sword fighting choreography is just godawful from the standpoint of a lifetime sword fighter - personally I don’t think ridiculous sword twirling is where it’s at. The reason it was so good in the original trilogy is that it was choreographed by a fencing master who fully considered the concept of a blade made of light. The new fighting utterly ignores that. I’d have killed them both within about 3 seconds!

I remember reading a book about how they made the first Star Wars film, where they said the main issue was that the prop lightsaber was incredibly fragile so they had to be very careful how they handled them or they'd break. Hence the staid but realistic fighting style. I think the fight choreographer was the man in the Vader suit for the duel with Kenobi, and also the fights in the subsequent two films.

I think the issue with swordfighting in films is that the expectations of it are inherently unrealistic, with fights expected to go on for ages, e.g. the ones in 1930s films like Robin Hood. The problem with actual combat is that it is a bit dull to watch so you have to make it look a bit sexier especially for the modern audience.

[Nightmare]

Newarch said:

I remember reading a book about how they made the first Star Wars film, where they said the main issue was that the prop lightsaber was incredibly fragile so they had to be very careful how they handled them or they'd break. Hence the staid but realistic fighting style. I think the fight choreographer was the man in the Vader suit for the duel with Kenobi, and also the fights in the subsequent two films.

I think the issue with swordfighting in films is that the expectations of it are inherently unrealistic, with fights expected to go on for ages, e.g. the ones in 1930s films like Robin Hood. The problem with actual combat is that it is a bit dull to watch so you have to make it look a bit sexier especially for the modern audience.

Yeah very fair point - but people loved the not flashy Star Wars fights and if you want to make it look amazing just go the route of the princess bride. Proper sword work with lots of physical shenanigans to make it fun. But the actual fighting is spot on.

it was Bob Anderson as you say and he was def in the suit for the main fight at least - He was my fencing coach about 30 years ago! Hadn’t realised it was because the props were fragile though…v interesting thanks

[Sheets Tabuer]

Flip Martian said:

ut only for those on the darkside. Or who have 2 stomachs.

I dont know what to say to you that would make you feel better. I know you're upset but it is what it is.

[eltawater]

Good news!
Season 2 is not coming any time soon...

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/kathleen-kenned...

Kathleen Kennedy truly does believe this however....

"That show was so well-received and [director] Deborah Chow did such a spectacular job."

[Flip Martian]

eltawater said:

Good news!
Season 2 is not coming any time soon...

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/kathleen-kenned...

Kathleen Kennedy truly does believe this however....

"That show was so well-received and [director] Deborah Chow did such a spectacular job."

She clearly mastered the art of talking crap a long time ago. Thank god that's been kicked into the long grass...

[rider73]

Flip Martian said:

eltawater said:

Good news!
Season 2 is not coming any time soon...

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/kathleen-kenned...

Kathleen Kennedy truly does believe this however....

"That show was so well-received and [director] Deborah Chow did such a spectacular job."

She clearly mastered the art of talking crap a long time ago. Thank god that's been kicked into the long grass...

and here in lies the problem - a great Character totally destroyed by terrible writing and acting and plot and so is now toxic - thanks Disney, if only you'd not tried to milk the "child escaping the baddies" elements and "everyone gets stabbed by lightsabers but lives and somehow finds out where the good guys are going and gets there before them to set a trap" garbage.....