The Gold, Sunday eve

[oddball1313]

Agent57 said:

As mentioned earlier, I can't believe they got so many basic car details wrong on this. Not just slight facelift differences either.

The robbery was in 1983 but they have a main car as a Granada on a B reg. B reg was August 1984 onwards and the Granada mark 3 did not come out until May 1985. And I think the wheels on their car denote an even later model.

Also saw a 1988 model, mark 2 facelift Orion in the car park.

The BBC must employ consultants or did they just think any car from the 80s will do?

you must have the fairer sex in raptures at parties

[Muzzer79]

I’ve just started episode 4

I was young in the early 80s, but I could swear that karaoke was a 90s onwards thing?

I certainly don’t remember it on our family holidays abroad……

[selym]

Muzzer79 said:

Not 10 minutes in I’m seeing a Granada, allegedly in 1983, which wasn’t manufactured until mid to late 80s and my teeth are itching

Binged this over the last couple of days; most enjoyable apart from that car!

[Agent57]

oddball1313 said:

Agent57 said:

As mentioned earlier, I can't believe they got so many basic car details wrong on this. Not just slight facelift differences either.

The robbery was in 1983 but they have a main car as a Granada on a B reg. B reg was August 1984 onwards and the Granada mark 3 did not come out until May 1985. And I think the wheels on their car denote an even later model.

Also saw a 1988 model, mark 2 facelift Orion in the car park.

The BBC must employ consultants or did they just think any car from the 80s will do?

you must have the fairer sex in raptures at parties

That's why forums like this exist so I don't have to wear my anorak to parties.

[gt_12345]

essexplumber said:

I’m bloody sure Noye played a part in the Range Rover murders too.

Finished the series last night, enjoyable but the guy who played Noye wasn’t menacing enough.

Sean Harris should have played Noyes.

[Ash_]

gt_12345 said:

essexplumber said:

I’m bloody sure Noye played a part in the Range Rover murders too.

Finished the series last night, enjoyable but the guy who played Noye wasn’t menacing enough.

Sean Harris should have played Noyes.

I haven't even seen the show yet, but I've read the thread and read/heard about the event, you're spot on, Sean Harris is one very scary looking dude who plays "menacing" excellently, especially with his gravelly voice.

[gt_12345]

Ash_ said:

gt_12345 said:

essexplumber said:

I’m bloody sure Noye played a part in the Range Rover murders too.

Finished the series last night, enjoyable but the guy who played Noye wasn’t menacing enough.

Sean Harris should have played Noyes.

I haven't even seen the show yet, but I've read the thread and read/heard about the event, you're spot on, Sean Harris is one very scary looking dude who plays "menacing" excellently, especially with his gravelly voice.

He was very menacing in Mission Impossible. Would make a better Bond villain than the recent crap we've had to endure.

[Rider007]

Starting to get bored of this now, far too long. Could have been made into a movie, 2-1/2 hours top. Hoping that Bonnevilles friend Paddington turns up to dig up the gold and skit away to darkest Peru

[Granadier]

Randy Winkman said:

Agent57 said:

As mentioned earlier, I can't believe they got so many basic car details wrong on this. Not just slight facelift differences either.

The robbery was in 1983 but they have a main car as a Granada on a B reg. B reg was August 1984 onwards and the Granada mark 3 did not come out until May 1985. And I think the wheels on their car denote an even later model.

Also saw a 1988 model, mark 2 facelift Orion in the car park.

The BBC must employ consultants or did they just think any car from the 80s will do?

I guess they thought it was best to choose from the cars they could actually get rather than the ones they'd like, but couldn't?

Ironically, I think there are more Granada mk2s 'preserved' than mk3s. Certainly when there was a '50 years of the Granada' gathering a year or so ago, it was overwhelmingly dominated by mk2s.

Muzzer79 said:

I’ve just started episode 4

I was young in the early 80s, but I could swear that karaoke was a 90s onwards thing?

I certainly don’t remember it on our family holidays abroad……

Yeah, I thought karaoke started to come into British culture at the very end of the 80s. I first heard of it on TV as a strange Japanese form of entertainment...

Admittedly, we're all just nit-picking about these points. Generally the series gives a reasonably convincing feel of 1980s London. I think my biggest problem with the series is the heavy-handed hammering of all the class warfare stuff. And the progress of the story seems to lose steam in the last episode or two.

Edited by Granadier on Friday 3rd March 09:06

[Its Just Adz]

Finished it last night, really good.

So half the gold was never accounted for?

[The Mad Monk]

Its Just Adz said:

Finished it last night, really good.

So half the gold was never accounted for?

Well, yes, but don't forget this is a dramatised documentary.

A fictionalised version of an actual crime.

Some of it was fact. A lot of it was imagination.

[Ash_]

gt_12345 said:

Ash_ said:

gt_12345 said:

essexplumber said:

I’m bloody sure Noye played a part in the Range Rover murders too.

Finished the series last night, enjoyable but the guy who played Noye wasn’t menacing enough.

Sean Harris should have played Noyes.

I haven't even seen the show yet, but I've read the thread and read/heard about the event, you're spot on, Sean Harris is one very scary looking dude who plays "menacing" excellently, especially with his gravelly voice.

He was very menacing in Mission Impossible. Would make a better Bond villain than the recent crap we've had to endure.

Started watching this last night and didn't even realise he was in it before posting above. What surprised me is, in everything I've seen him in (granted that's just Mission Impossible films and one other thing) his voice was the same dark gravelly menacing tone....in this he sounds perfectly normal. Which does take away from the menace somewhat.

Enjoying the show though.

[Agent57]

wpa1975 said:

Really enjoyed the series, Noye was too nice however.

Agree. They seem to present him as a Del Boy type character from what I've seen so far.

[Granadier]

Agent57 said:

wpa1975 said:

Really enjoyed the series, Noye was too nice however.

Agree. They seem to present him as a Del Boy type character from what I've seen so far.

What about Palmer too? The Gold presents him as a very likeable, slightly naive, family man, but in reality he was a major gangster in his own right, though admittedly most of what I know about him is from the decades after Brink's Mat.

[Oakey]

Which is what's being set up for series 2, no?

Palmer is starting his timeshare scam in Tenerife, McAvoy is pissed that he's been screwed over by his South London associates and Noye is inside for handling the bullion and his story doesn't really continue (in the public eye) until he stabs Cameron to death

[Evoluzione]

Rider007 said:

Starting to get bored of this now, far too long. Could have been made into a movie, 2-1/2 hours top. Hoping that Bonnevilles friend Paddington turns up to dig up the gold and skit away to darkest Peru

There is a thread for ADHD, i'll see if I can find it if you like?

[Randy Winkman]

Now that people seem to have watched the whole series - who was it that got shot in the face by the motorcyclist in the final episode?

[tardelli]

Randy Winkman said:

Now that people seem to have watched the whole series - who was it that got shot in the face by the motorcyclist in the final episode?

What if you are watching it week by week?
No time to watch it all.
I'm important chap I'll have you know,:-)

Edited by tardelli on Friday 3rd March 10:39

[Muzzer79]

Randy Winkman said:

Now that people seem to have watched the whole series - who was it that got shot in the face by the motorcyclist in the final episode?

I haven't seen it all yet, I'm sure a lot of others haven't too.

So, use of the 'Spoiler' function would be appreciated.

[Oakey]

Randy Winkman said:

Now that people seem to have watched the whole series - who was it that got shot in the face by the motorcyclist in the final episode?

In real life it's Brian Perry but in this he was called Donnie which might be a reference to Ronnie Olliffe, a major South London criminal (and Fred Foreman's good pal) who McAvoy worked for. He convinced McAvoy that Perry had stolen his share of the gold when it was quite possibly Olliffe who'd had him over.