Roadhouse Starring Jake Gyllenhaal
Discussion
popeyewhite said:
Why do you think either needed 'help' for the role? CM was already in shape-ish and JG had been in training over a year and doesn't have particularly low BF. What evidence do you think you see that either used steroids?
JG is mid 40’s and whilst in good shape, he needs to take his shirt off for a living and is paid well to do so. TRT is likely if not a given. He also has previously used them for southpaw.CM took himself out the USADA pool. More importantly has indirectly confirmed he has taken PED’s.
popeyewhite said:
Why do you think either needed 'help' for the role? CM was already in shape-ish and JG had been in training over a year and doesn't have particularly low BF. What evidence do you think you see that either used steroids?
Right so you know that a lot of actors/Actresses request airbrushing within their contracts, Also it takes more than a year of working out, eating only chicken, rice and Brockley to get a body like that.
JG is also over 40 making it extremely hard to put on that amount of lean mass without at Least TRT.
Tigerj said:
JG is mid 40’s and whilst in good shape, he needs to take his shirt off for a living and is paid well to do so. TRT is likely if not a given. He also has previously used them for southpaw.
No, to my knowledge that's never been proven and he actually trained very hard for it. As he'd lost the weight for a previous movie is wasn't too hard to bulk/cut a bit. He didn't have the bulk or low enough BF to have used gear for Road House. If you want to see a shredded Hollywood persona who used for a film role look at Zac Efron in Baywatch. BTW a clinical TRT dosage will make little difference to one's physique, you're referring to a full cycle.Tigerj said:
CM took himself out the USADA pool. More importantly has indirectly confirmed he has taken PED’s.
So again no proof, and up til now he's passed all tests. He'll be tested for all his upcoming fights and obviously he'll pass. So either he has a failsafe way of doing gear undetected, or he uses for such a short time it's out of his system relatively quickly. If that was the case the facial bone growth wouldn't be possible. popeyewhite said:
Kerniki said:
I never mentioned steroids 
i said gear, which encompasses gh 
and yes it can happen in 18 mths
'Gear' is steroids. GH is GH. 18 months? Very unlikely. Haven't seen it in 35 years training.... . i said gear, which encompasses gh and yes it can happen in 18 mthsKerniki said:
Call it gossip if you like, s’all good 
Well yeah, it's gossip. Idle chit chat. etc etc 
As you said before on here, you yourself are a steroid user, so your view & opinion are pretty irrelevant to me.
The proof is JG body. No way a guy in his 40’s would be able to build his body up like his without TRT or some other drugs.
As for CM you do know it is a cat and mouse game with drug testing, masking agents are always being developed to get round drug testing. CM may have periods when he is clean but he has deffo done a few cycles.
As for CM you do know it is a cat and mouse game with drug testing, masking agents are always being developed to get round drug testing. CM may have periods when he is clean but he has deffo done a few cycles.
WY86 said:
The proof is JG body. No way a guy in his 40’s would be able to build his body up like his without TRT or some other drugs.
Not true. His money, a good Hollywood trainer, diet and training regime will do it nicely. Oh and a year of it and heaps of self-discipline.
WY86 said:
As for CM you do know it is a cat and mouse game with drug testing, masking agents are always being developed to get round drug testing. CM may have periods when he is clean but he has deffo done a few cycles.
Yes I'm aware of all you say but until he's caught he's being extremely clever and knows something priceless about swerving positive drug test results.Whether or not JG could get that body without PEDS is a pretty pointless discussion. If he arrives in the UK no one debates whether he flew or took a boat - even though he COULD have sailed here!
PEDS use for a an actor is safe, simple, legal, easy, and very effective. I've never heard a single reason why an actor would NOT take them. Same as planes for getting to the UK!
14 year olds on tiktok are on PEDS for their 100 followers but we debate whether people paid millions to look good are natty????
PEDS use for a an actor is safe, simple, legal, easy, and very effective. I've never heard a single reason why an actor would NOT take them. Same as planes for getting to the UK!
14 year olds on tiktok are on PEDS for their 100 followers but we debate whether people paid millions to look good are natty????
Its not pointless to the people talking about it, maybe to yourself…
Nobody cares if people take gear or not, myself included, its their lives to do with as they wish, however dumb i might think it may be.
The point is honesty, if you chose to…dont be ashamed of your decision, be open and let others know.
why be deceptive about it? Could it be.. you’re trying to lead others to believe your genetics (at growth not shape) are something more than they actually are and your ability to grow is far superior?
Its about honesty, thats all, which is not pointless, at popeywhite was honest about his usage, i respect that part.
Its been discussed here many times over many years and the mentality that surrounds people who use gear recreationally means it never really concludes, so rather than ruin a film discussion I'll abstain before the roid heads explode
Nobody cares if people take gear or not, myself included, its their lives to do with as they wish, however dumb i might think it may be.
The point is honesty, if you chose to…dont be ashamed of your decision, be open and let others know.
why be deceptive about it? Could it be.. you’re trying to lead others to believe your genetics (at growth not shape) are something more than they actually are and your ability to grow is far superior?
Its about honesty, thats all, which is not pointless, at popeywhite was honest about his usage, i respect that part.
Its been discussed here many times over many years and the mentality that surrounds people who use gear recreationally means it never really concludes, so rather than ruin a film discussion I'll abstain before the roid heads explode
Edited by Kerniki on Monday 1st April 07:14
DeejRC said:
I’ve never quite understood the obsession PH has with PEDs.
Any film/show where a bloke looks “built” and you can guarantee pages of 40+yo blokes gossiping about his body like loose women.
As the other poster has said not going to derail the conversation any further. But as some closing thoughts.Any film/show where a bloke looks “built” and you can guarantee pages of 40+yo blokes gossiping about his body like loose women.
It’s not about if the take anything, there is nothing wrong with that and if my career relied on my body I would too.
It’s the transparency. It can be damaging to people when they don’t look like that. Especially to younger kids. Bringing it back to this movie Jake gylinghall apparently spent 3 months to get into shape, you can see how it could mess with a persons self esteem. It’s not just this m movie it’s an industry wide thing.
I find it weird how blokes health seems to be going the opposite as woman’s. They are all for body positivity but the male space has countless fake nattys.
Someone earlier commented on Connor size. I'm thinking he's about five eight and might be 13.5 stone. He has been a professional fighter for years now and will have been operating on a strict diet to make weight for his fights, so whilst the rumours about his use of gear circulate, and Dana I'm sure has withdrawn UFC from USADA testing instead implementing their own regime...I mean, what could possibly go wrong with that?, being able to hammer the gym, eat what he likes and not worry about weight could easily see him pack on the size he has. Anyone who trains will know it is quite incredible the transformations bodies can go through due to the many and varied stresses a resistance training programme can put a system under. Connor's face has at times exhibited the classic 'baloon' look and his musculature has been that smooth way that usually signifies water retention, and can be steroid related...but can also be down to his system holding onto everything because he is eating much more and not burning it off using his more cardio based MMA training. Personally, I don't give a s
t. Gear or no gear, these guys have shown some self discipline to maintain their condition, fair play.
Properly ste film though....
Oh, and by the way, I'm no McGregor fanboy, I can't abide him.
t. Gear or no gear, these guys have shown some self discipline to maintain their condition, fair play. Properly s
te film though.... Oh, and by the way, I'm no McGregor fanboy, I can't abide him.
Kerniki said:
The point is honesty, if you chose to…dont be ashamed of your decision, be open and let others know.
Well that's simple - they aren't honest because the majority of average movie goers have zero idea about this stuff and if they heard their fave actor used drugs they would look at it negatively. The alternative is the actor/movie studio lies and gets to make a few promotional articles about the training regime used which further boost the box office. The react is, all of this stuff is actually quite simple. Both why they use stuff in the first place and why they do not discuss it.
Tigerj said:
I find it weird how blokes health seems to be going the opposite as woman’s. They are all for body positivity but the male space has countless fake nattys.
You must be trolling now, more and more women are jumping on PED’s and women far outpace men when it comes to under going cosmetic procedures. Any way the Movie 5.5 out 10, not the greatest not the worst. The original in my eyes was better.
MarkL73 said:
Kerniki said:
The point is honesty, if you chose to…dont be ashamed of your decision, be open and let others know.
Well that's simple - they aren't honest because the majority of average movie goers have zero idea about this stuff and if they heard their fave actor used drugs they would look at it negatively. The alternative is the actor/movie studio lies and gets to make a few promotional articles about the training regime used which further boost the box office. The react is, all of this stuff is actually quite simple. Both why they use stuff in the first place and why they do not discuss it.
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