Stupid things in films

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JonRB

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273 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Also, didn't we do this subject only a week or so ago?

Kaelic

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202 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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youngsyr said:
Top Gun - All of it, but especially that stupid "They'll fly right by" manoeuver that Maverick does several times.
It is actually based on a real move taught at Top Gun school, taught by a British pilot wink

Kaelic

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Thursday 26th March 2009
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dictys said:
Hunt for Red October - weather barometer in captain's cabin
lol

Its a naval tradition wink


Fex2005

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204 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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philwhite said:
For me it’s got to be the old 'zooming in on photos', there’s no software that can magnify a photo 10,000 times, it worked in Blade Runner, it doesn’t in anything else.
Ahemmmm biggrin ------> http://www.gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscreen.php?i...

Edited by Fex2005 on Thursday 26th March 16:34

ben_reza

412 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Computers... with no mouse.
Swordfish is a perfect example of how people dont actually use computers.

sadako

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239 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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ben_reza said:
Computers... with no mouse.
Swordfish is a perfect example of how people dont actually use computers.
Computers that instead of having an operating system have a powerpoint presentation with huge flashing text on it when it finds something, gets an email, gets an error... I think they had battery low across the entire screen flashing away in Torchwood at one point...

Steve748

8,542 posts

185 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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For me the annoying things in films and TV are............

Person gets out of car points remote at car and it beeps, has nobody told them cars don't beep anymore?

End of phone call with bad/annoying news person takes phone from ear and looks at it, what's that about?

News item before interview with important person, said person walks past camera looking nonchalantly slightly off camera.

Robin Hood characters have beautifully coiffured hair, didn't realise they had hairdressers in those days

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Kaelic said:
youngsyr said:
Top Gun - All of it, but especially that stupid "They'll fly right by" manoeuver that Maverick does several times.
It is actually based on a real move taught at Top Gun school, taught by a British pilot wink
What, reducing throttle to minimum and pulling up hard?

I find that hard to believe, but perhaps that why you so "based on", which translates as "has nothing but the barest resemblance to"?



Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 26th March 16:50

JonRB

74,747 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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youngsyr said:
What, reducing throttle to minimum and pulling up hard?

I find that hard to believe.
And deploying the airbrake and flaps, as I recall.

It's a variation on the Harrier's VIFF isn't it?

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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JonRB said:
youngsyr said:
What, reducing throttle to minimum and pulling up hard?

I find that hard to believe.
And deploying the airbrake and flaps, as I recall.

It's a variation on the Harrier's VIFF isn't it?
Ok, I have several issues with this, but am far from an expert.

Firstly, won't deploying the airbrakes and flaps at speed simply rip them off?

Secondly, won't the aircraft stall very quickly after it's put in a steep climb on minimal throttle?

Finally, why on earth can't the aircraft following not just do the same?

Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 26th March 16:52

ol

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209 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Fex2005 said:
philwhite said:
For me it’s got to be the old 'zooming in on photos', there’s no software that can magnify a photo 10,000 times, it worked in Blade Runner, it doesn’t in anything else.
Ahemmmm biggrin ------> http://www.gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscreen.php?i...

Edited by Fex2005 on Thursday 26th March 16:34
That's amazing! You can see every face...

Mutley

3,178 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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youngsyr said:
JonRB said:
youngsyr said:
What, reducing throttle to minimum and pulling up hard?

I find that hard to believe.
And deploying the airbrake and flaps, as I recall.

It's a variation on the Harrier's VIFF isn't it?
Ok, I have several issues with this, but am far from an expert.

Firstly, won't deploying the airbrakes and flaps at speed simply rip them off?

Secondly, won't the aircraft stall very quickly after it's put in a steep climb on minimal throttle?

Finally, why on earth can the aircraft following not just do the same?
1 - If you notice the F14 has wings forward, (I can't recall seeing flaps being deployed in this)

2 - Which is why on a sudden stall pull up the throttle is rammed forward again and nose pushed down (ever been to an airshow and watched a stall turn? same principle)

3 - reaction time, element of surprise

Dracoro

8,687 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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No US cars have ABS.

All police cars CANNOT, ever ever, rush to a scence and stop. They HAVE to do a handbrake turn/slide. It's silly.

Every computer boots up in 3 seconds.

CGI - If you can tell it's CGI then it's bad, I don't know a film where the CGI is that good that I hadn't noticed. To be fair, the more annoying stupidy is the reviewers and viewers who say the CGI is great - not that great that you noticed though is it!

Blue screen scenes - in this day and age! Look at the latest knight rider thing, actually a poor blue screen when he's in the car. What's wrong with putting the car on a trailer and filming it that way......

Dakkon

7,826 posts

254 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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The caseless ammunition that the marines rifles are supposed to use, yet they all seem to stream cases out the side when fired, most notable is when Vasquez is in the aircon tunnels with Gorman before they suicide with a grenade.

Dakkon

7,826 posts

254 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Tyre marks in the road from previous takes, really annoying.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Mutley said:
youngsyr said:
JonRB said:
youngsyr said:
What, reducing throttle to minimum and pulling up hard?

I find that hard to believe.
And deploying the airbrake and flaps, as I recall.

It's a variation on the Harrier's VIFF isn't it?
Ok, I have several issues with this, but am far from an expert.

Firstly, won't deploying the airbrakes and flaps at speed simply rip them off?

Secondly, won't the aircraft stall very quickly after it's put in a steep climb on minimal throttle?

Finally, why on earth can the aircraft following not just do the same?
1 - If you notice the F14 has wings forward, (I can't recall seeing flaps being deployed in this)

2 - Which is why on a sudden stall pull up the throttle is rammed forward again and nose pushed down (ever been to an airshow and watched a stall turn? same principle)

3 - reaction time, element of surprise
Re point 2, I was just trying to clarify this and work out which way the throttle works on an aircraft.

If I recall correctly, Maverick jerks the controls in opposite directions on the manoeuvre (stick hard back, throttle hard forward), so in actual fact is he not accelerating into a climb? If so, that's going to give him absolutely no advantage beyond it being a simple direction change.

I'm not buying 3 either, it's not like the guy following is reading a newspaper whilst all this is going on and he's certainly not going to "fly right by" on a straight and level course at a closing speed of hundreds of mph as shown in the film.

nellyleelephant

2,705 posts

235 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Tyre squeel on dust / mud / sand.

Kaelic

2,687 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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youngsyr said:
JonRB said:
youngsyr said:
What, reducing throttle to minimum and pulling up hard?

I find that hard to believe.
And deploying the airbrake and flaps, as I recall.

It's a variation on the Harrier's VIFF isn't it?
Ok, I have several issues with this, but am far from an expert.

Firstly, won't deploying the airbrakes and flaps at speed simply rip them off?

Secondly, won't the aircraft stall very quickly after it's put in a steep climb on minimal throttle?

Finally, why on earth can't the aircraft following not just do the same?

Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 26th March 16:52
Have you ever heard of a stall turn?

delusional

82 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Terminator 3, when the female Terminator is using nano-bots to control cars. Ok, so I can accept the nano-bots that can control other machines. That can fit in with the standard suspension of disbelief. But tell me: how the fk do these work on old cars without "drive by wire"? And how exactly do they cause the pedals to go up and down?
Would it really have been that difficult to use more modern cars with drive by wire and not show the pedals moving? They could even have substituted the pedal scenes with some snazzy CGI stuff of circuits jumping or something!

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Kaelic said:
youngsyr said:
JonRB said:
youngsyr said:
What, reducing throttle to minimum and pulling up hard?

I find that hard to believe.
And deploying the airbrake and flaps, as I recall.

It's a variation on the Harrier's VIFF isn't it?
Ok, I have several issues with this, but am far from an expert.

Firstly, won't deploying the airbrakes and flaps at speed simply rip them off?

Secondly, won't the aircraft stall very quickly after it's put in a steep climb on minimal throttle?

Finally, why on earth can't the aircraft following not just do the same?

Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 26th March 16:52
Have you ever heard of a stall turn?
Nope, but I'd imagine the guy in the "Mig" might have, if that helps?