The trouble with boris, heads up ch4 now

The trouble with boris, heads up ch4 now

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Twit

2,908 posts

266 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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cs02rm0 said:
I've noticed that the congestion zone isn't in danger of being extended out to Wales yet, which at one stage with Red Ken at the helm didn't look unlikely.
Indeed, but on a day to day basis I can't see any difference in the running of the city! its still rubbish!!!! And I really don't care who is in power, Boris is a clown surrounded by good advisors but we all know that! Livingstone is just as bad, whoever comes next will also be as bad, the world will still turn and we will still pay shed loads of tax!!!! Nothing changes!

mattley

3,025 posts

224 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Utterly pathetic and desperate. This sort of crap really devalues the 'Dispatches' Brand.

AJS-

15,366 posts

238 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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What a crock! He looks like Student Grant out of Viz, and talks about as much sense

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

236 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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The documentary that doesn't allow or offer an opposing view to that given is a documentary not worth watching.

s3fella

10,524 posts

189 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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That "tape" seemed rather conveniently editted!

So two guys talking crap.........oooohhhhh get the stocks!


elster

17,517 posts

212 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Did they only interview people who had been on the take?

Or was just that the bits I saw?

Adrian W

14,006 posts

230 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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What happened to balance? I thought it was one of the terms of C4s licence, The bloke obviously doesn't like Boris and C4 have given him the tools to voice his opinion.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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What a steaming pile of horsest (from somebody who has never been a massive Boris fan). This wasn't a documentary, it was an agenda. Poorly conceived and with absolutely no substantive evidence except the word of Keith Vaz ( rolleyes ) and some tape transcripts from nearly 20 years ago, it almost felt like I was watching an old Soviet propaganda film at some points.

Dispatches, hang your heads in shame.

The Excession

11,669 posts

252 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Parrot of Doom said:
...not worth watching.
My old sky box started playing up half way through... I just gave up, it wasn't interesting me, as said above just a carefully poured over slime attack, made safe for the meeja. There was little or no coroboration, every member interviewed as either Liberal or Labour, very very poor journalism in my mind. Reminds me just why I rarely watch T.V. any more. Now, if Louis Theroux had done it.....

Simpo Two

85,807 posts

267 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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It's so obvious when upset lefties are pulling levers behind the scenes thinking no-one can tell...

AJS-

15,366 posts

238 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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In all fairness if you remove the expectation of balance, it's just what you would expect from a Guardian journalist doing an investigation into Boris Johnson's first year in office.

That's why I hate the way the broadcasting rules are in the UK. You supposedly aren't allowed to make biased programmes, so people have this expectation that the TV is fair and balanced, then you have programmes like that...

Of course investigative journalism will always be crap if the journalist is a wrong headed goombah to start with.

ukwill

8,922 posts

209 months

Randy Winkman

16,382 posts

191 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Adrian W said:
What happened to balance? I thought it was one of the terms of C4s licence, The bloke obviously doesn't like Boris and C4 have given him the tools to voice his opinion.
The balance is that they did the same sort of thing about Ken this time last year.

turbobloke

104,317 posts

262 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Contact C4 (post up if anyone has a better link):

http://help.channel4.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?N...

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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My email to C4 went:

email said:
I found this programme shockingly one sided - it seemed as if you were providing a platform for a Guardian journalist who clearly has rather a large axe to grind with Boris Johnson. It will certainly do the reputation of Dispatches as a serious current affairs programme no good whatsoever. May I suggest that you raise the bar in future and try to present some balance to your current affairs programming?

ianash

3,274 posts

185 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Being criticized by Keith Vaz should be an honest man's badge of honour. Given his Hinduja brothers dealings it a bloody wonder he's allowed to chair a commons committee (Oops, I forgot, we've got a NUlabour Govt) - roll on the next General Election.

HiRich

3,337 posts

264 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Randy Winkman said:
Adrian W said:
What happened to balance? I thought it was one of the terms of C4s licence, The bloke obviously doesn't like Boris and C4 have given him the tools to voice his opinion.
The balance is that they did the same sort of thing about Ken this time last year.
This.
You might think it relevant that the GLA precept has not risen, for the first time ever (under the previous incumbent it doubled). You might think it notable that Boris has pushed ahead a scheme that looks capable of reducing biker, cyclist and pedestrian injuries, where the previous incumbent tried to cover up the research. You may consider it relevant that tube prices went up in line with the business plan signed off by the previous incumbent (who failed to reconcile this with an election promise not to increase prices - a pledge he had made at previous elections and failed to keep). You might be a member of that group (which includes pretty much the entire population of London, including serving officers) who had lost all faith in Ian Blair. And you might remember the various promises Boris has kept.

But Dispatches is polemic, not documentary. It is not meant to be balanced. Just because you disagree with the content, or believe that it relies on poorly constructed arguments, doesn't mean it shouldn't be made. You need to decide whether the host made valid points, or is just a whiny, tunnel-visioned fool. I did watch it, and I think you can guess my opinion.

DJC

23,563 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Can you imagine being a judge and someone called Keith Vaz as a character witness? smile

groucho

12,134 posts

248 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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I like the way the program said, "Boris has rephased all the traffic lights to favour the car". Do they want congestion ffs? Sounds like it.