Been pondering about Sky subscriptions

Been pondering about Sky subscriptions

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E36GUY

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5,906 posts

219 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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How is it Sky can get away with charging for channels such as E4.More4 etc as part of their 'entertainment' pack when these are free to air on freeview?

Secondly, how can they get away with charging another tenner for the priviledge of watching a different channel in another room? (Sky Room2). Sky is expensive enough as it is. you're paying for the signal reception so why can't you buy extra boxes for your other rooms?

LividSV

1,333 posts

193 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Firstly sure you get the free channels you can view on a normal freeview box, but their entertainment package gives you channels you can't.

Secondly sky call it multi-room. It's handy in my house, my mum and dad can be watching what they want in the front room, and my brother can watch what he wants in his room for only £10 more which is a bargain i think. ( So you can pay £50 for everything for the front room, and it only costs £10 more to get all them channels in another room)

E36GUY

Original Poster:

5,906 posts

219 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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LividSV said:
Firstly sure you get the free channels you can view on a normal freeview box, but their entertainment package gives you channels you can't.

Secondly sky call it multi-room. It's handy in my house, my mum and dad can be watching what they want in the front room, and my brother can watch what he wants in his room for only £10 more which is a bargain i think. ( So you can pay £50 for everything for the front room, and it only costs £10 more to get all them channels in another room)
Negative. My parents in law don't have the entertainment package and therefore they don't have access to any of the freeview channels like BBC3/ITV4/E4

I know what Multiroom is. But it strikes me as a rip off just for the priviledge of watching a different channel in another room. You're paying to receive so why more?

toasty

7,516 posts

221 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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So basically, you're a bit tight and want something for nothing. biggrin

E36GUY

Original Poster:

5,906 posts

219 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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toasty said:
So basically, you're a bit tight and want something for nothing. biggrin
Useful. Thanks.

It's not something for nothing is it? I just think if you are already paying what is quite a lot of money for a TV subscription to be charged an extra £120/year just to be able to watch something on another channel in another room is a bit off. And I think that charging for channels that are free to air is also off. Does no-one agree?

zac510

5,546 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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They get away with it because people will pay it. I agree it's a bit of a ripoff myself!

theboyfold

10,932 posts

227 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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You can avoid the multi-room charges by running another feed from the dish to the room of your choice and using a freesat box. You get all the free to air stuff on that.

Mx_Stu

810 posts

224 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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theboyfold said:
You can avoid the multi-room charges by running another feed from the dish to the room of your choice and using a freesat box. You get all the free to air stuff on that.
Or by just using an old sky box.. thats what we do and get E4/More4/Film4 etc.

I do see where you're coming from, I can't believe how much my subscription is (c.£60 a month), but its the sky sports package (for football) and HD which make up the bulk of that and I would have nothing to do if it wasn't for football.

(one thing that does piss me off though is the lack of sky sports news (a freeview channel)on our old sky box!!)

LeoSayer

7,319 posts

245 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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E36GUY said:
you're paying for the signal reception so why can't you buy extra boxes for your other rooms?
Everyone in the UK gets the signal reception. You're paying for the box to descramble the signal into viewable pictures.

Sky 'get away with it' because people will pay it. If they gave it away free, then they would probably bump up their subscriptions fees so that everyone would pay it, which I wouldn't be happy with.

SLacKer

2,622 posts

208 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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I use my old skybox with no card and get the freeview channels (except 5 for some reason)

I to will not pay another £10 for another room just to have a pile of repeats shown elsewhere. I do distribute the sky signal from the main box as well so can view the main box on all the TV's in the house.

SKY will continue to charge for these extras until they have to compete with someone offering more. At the moment FreeSat is still a baby so we will have to wait and see.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Sky won't have it so good forever. The internet is changing how we view things. And BT have a vision.
http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Whatis21CN/index.htm
BT have planned to move into this area for years, and are nurturing a small customer base with their freeview/combo offers. But the longer picture is to offer all kinds of telly down their super-fast network.

For the shortterm...can you not get Virgin or some local cable/LLU provider and get a better offer off Sky?

Dare2Fail

3,808 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Halb said:
Sky won't have it so good forever. The internet is changing how we view things. And BT have a vision.
http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Whatis21CN/index.htm
BT have planned to move into this area for years, and are nurturing a small customer base with their freeview/combo offers. But the longer picture is to offer all kinds of telly down their super-fast network.
The idea of pinning my hopes on the bastion of ineptitude that is BT is a bit scary to me. BT have a habit of ripping you off, providing a useless service, and not giving a monkeys. Sky have a habit of ripping you off, providing a decent service, and not giving a monkeys. Sky will be getting my cash over BT every single time.

becksW

14,682 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Mx_Stu said:
theboyfold said:
You can avoid the multi-room charges by running another feed from the dish to the room of your choice and using a freesat box. You get all the free to air stuff on that.
Or by just using an old sky box.. thats what we do and get E4/More4/Film4 etc.

I do see where you're coming from, I can't believe how much my subscription is (c.£60 a month), but its the sky sports package (for football) and HD which make up the bulk of that and I would have nothing to do if it wasn't for football.

(one thing that does piss me off though is the lack of sky sports news (a freeview channel)on our old sky box!!)
My parents use their old sky box. We had sky for a trial run but decided we didn't like it but as a result we still have the dish, so we could use that with a free view box if we wanted.

Currently have a very satisfactory virgin deal, broadband, phone and XL package for £36/month. We only tried Sky because they have more HD channels but they weren't that impressive and during our trial virgin announced extra HD channels anyway!

Mx_Stu

810 posts

224 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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becksW said:
during our trial virgin announced extra HD channels anyway!
Still not sky sports which is all I care about!

Moose.

5,339 posts

242 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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The worst thing about Sky is, as an existing customer, I'd have to pay in order to get an HD Sky+ box which they'll give away to new customers for free! I'd love to have Sky+ but refuse to be forced to pay for it along with installation mad

theboyfold

10,932 posts

227 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Moose. said:
The worst thing about Sky is, as an existing customer, I'd have to pay in order to get an HD Sky+ box which they'll give away to new customers for free! I'd love to have Sky+ but refuse to be forced to pay for it along with installation mad
Try this, my Sky HD box is playing up and I rang them to see how much the cost was. £149 for the box, £60 for the installation!!! INSTALLATION!? That means unplugging the box and putting the new one in! They are wkers of the highest order.

One way around it though is to move the direct debit to a different account held by a different person and sign up as a new customer.

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

232 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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theboyfold said:
Moose. said:
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One way around it though is to move the direct debit to a different account held by a different person and sign up as a new customer.
Are you sure that works? I was told that that it is the address that matters.

theboyfold

10,932 posts

227 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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PPPPPP said:
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Are you sure that works? I was told that that it is the address that matters.
From what I remember I think it did as I was talking to my old lodger about doing it a couple of years back.

You could just say that you have moved in, so the address can't matter in that case...

Edited by theboyfold on Monday 17th August 15:18

Mx_Stu

810 posts

224 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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I originally owned my house with a mate. Bought him out after 4 years but the Sky subscription was in his name. Got him to cancel it before he moved out and was therefore able to take out a new subcription for Sky + HD as a new customer.

blank

3,473 posts

189 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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People who are moaning about paying for an HD box, have you tried phoning up and asking to cancel as you're going to get FreeSAT HD?

They might just offer you a free HD box....