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jas xjr

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11,309 posts

240 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Missed the end. Was he guilty or not guilty

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

194 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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All I noted was "Trial in 9 months time"

Probably a Google search may turn up a result if it has now taken place (I don't know when the programme was filmed).

Very good and interesting programme though, that bit were the firewall wouldn't let them e-mail the CPS was fking ridiculous though.

ben_h100

1,546 posts

180 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Confessed in prison whilst awaiting trial, however then killed himself so escaped justice. Not the best result really.

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Gave a full detailed confession to the murder whilst on remand.

Topped himself shortly afterwards.

Good show.

jas xjr

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11,309 posts

240 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Good result . Cheers guys. Deserved to die for driving a cavalier

robinhood21

30,788 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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ben_h100 said:
Confessed in prison whilst awaiting trial, however then killed himself so escaped justice. Not the best result really.
Oh I don't know. It certainly saved the taxpayer a good deal of money. smile

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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robinhood21 said:
ben_h100 said:
Confessed in prison whilst awaiting trial, however then killed himself so escaped justice. Not the best result really.
Oh I don't know. It certainly saved the taxpayer a good deal of money. smile
My feelings too.

Prison cells should have bare walls, a bed and a length of rope in them. Nothing else.

AnthonyC

476 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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The Policeman giving a piggy-back to the sniffer dog in the Halal shop was the funniest thing I've seeb in ages.

JD

2,780 posts

229 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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AnthonyC said:
The Policeman giving a piggy-back to the sniffer dog in the Halal shop was the funniest thing I've seeb in ages.
I did find that amusing... the fact he carried it because of religious reasons, the fact that it was a butchers didn't seem to mean anything spin

What an amazing show though, gripping TV, more like this please C4

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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robinhood21 said:
ben_h100 said:
Confessed in prison whilst awaiting trial, however then killed himself so escaped justice. Not the best result really.
Oh I don't know. It certainly saved the taxpayer a good deal of money. smile
He didn't escape justice at all, his life is over.

If he had gone to trial he would have got a comfortable human rights protected life in jail and would have been out in 10-15 years and been free by middle age.

At least he has suffered the same fate as his victim. Also being a Muslim he has comitted a major sin by killing himself and if he was a believing muslim would have expected to go to hell and disgrace his family.

(FYI I'm not religious but I worked with a Muslim guy and even as a 'light' believer he considered suicide as a major shame and sin)

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

192 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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Excellent programme. Although I do have a few questions:

Would he have be found guilty in court? Most of the evidence seemed circumstantial.

Would the "admission" to his cell mate have been admissible in court?

He seemed to stitch himself up in the interview. If he had said nothing in his interviews would be have walked free?

Carrying the dog through the shop was indeed a laugh out loud moment.

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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robinhood21 said:
ben_h100 said:
Confessed in prison whilst awaiting trial, however then killed himself so escaped justice. Not the best result really.
Oh I don't know. It certainly saved the taxpayer a good deal of money. smile
Agreed.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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Was anyone else making mental notes whilst watching this? hehe

1) If burning something, steal the petrol from a car as otherwise it can be traced back to the petrol station

2) When disposing of a body in a suitcase, check for cameras, carry the suitcase with two hands and look like you're struggling, each way.

3) destroy any notes you've made where you slag your victim off repeatedly

etc, etc hehe

I did get the feeling he may have done it before though, if it wasn't for the CCTV of him with the suitcase he'd probably have walked

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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Oakey said:
Was anyone else making mental notes whilst watching this? hehe

1) If burning something, steal the petrol from a car as otherwise it can be traced back to the petrol station

2) When disposing of a body in a suitcase, check for cameras, carry the suitcase with two hands and look like you're struggling, each way.

3) destroy any notes you've made where you slag your victim off repeatedly

etc, etc hehe

I did get the feeling he may have done it before though, if it wasn't for the CCTV of him with the suitcase he'd probably have walked
4) dont crash your Chavalier into a wall in a rush to escape

sevros1981

718 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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MJK 24 said:
Prison cells should have bare walls, a bed and a length of rope in them. Nothing else.
Dreadful. You must be a warm and friendly human being.

craste

1,222 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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I watched this too and not surprised there is a post about it as i too thought that it was great.

It would be nice if that when criminals (murderers) are bang to rights and 100% certain they have committed the crime then they too should be exterminated - why should they have a life (no matter how horrid) if they have stopped another from having one.

The dog carrying police man was great - can somebody post a pic of it up so we can have a caption competition?

I'm 36 and I turned around to my wife whilst watching this and commented that it was mad seeing the main investigating officer (the one with the side burns) looking about the same age as me - thats a sign that I'm getting old I guess.

What stuck out for me in the program was that Vauxhall would not co-operate the Police with their enquires about the paint etc for the cavalier - I was like no way - that's very bad PR for Vauxhall.

Looking forward to next week's episode which looks like its about a rape case.

You know the type, the ones who scream "NO!, fking get off me you bd" and scratch at your face when really they mean yes.

I buy the comic known as The News Of The World every sunday - JUST for the TV guide in the magazine as usually what they recommend is quite good - but it was an epic fail on their part not to mention this in their recommended section.



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Edited by craste on Wednesday 14th October 12:38

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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craste said:
What stuck out for me in the program was that Vauxhall would not co-operate the Police with their enquires about the paint etc for the cavalier - I was like no way - that's very bad PR for Vauxhall.
Found that somewhat shocking too.

Guffy

2,311 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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I started watching thinking i would give it 10 mins, but was engrossed throughout.

I don't believe Mr Haque escaped justice at all, he died in prison! If i was related to the victim, i would be satisfied with the outcome.

Carrying the dog through the shop had me chuckling too.. I guess it was an intended dig at these little religious idiosyncrasies wink

9/10 for me!

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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Marf said:
craste said:
What stuck out for me in the program was that Vauxhall would not co-operate the Police with their enquires about the paint etc for the cavalier - I was like no way - that's very bad PR for Vauxhall.
Found that somewhat shocking too.
I bet they're kicking themselves over that one. Could they have not ordered them to co-operate? Obstructing them from doing their job or whatever?

If it was me I'd have been like "I don't think you understand, I said I'm from the police, we're investigating a murder case, you will co-operate"

robinhood21

30,788 posts

233 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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Oakey said:
I bet they're kicking themselves over that one. Could they have not ordered them to co-operate? Obstructing them from doing their job or whatever?

If it was me I'd have been like "I don't think you understand, I said I'm from the police, we're investigating a murder case, you will co-operate"
I was expecting the detective to start threatening Vauxhall with obstruction. Perplexed that they didn't.