johnny Depp - what a nice guy he is...

[fttm]

jules_s said:

Loved that - very clever

My mrs has been glued to this from the start. Today of all days so far, AH has been found out IMO

Jeez , you have my deepest sympathy Serves you right for putting a TV in the kitchen

[FiF]

Fermit said:

Absolute quality - the killer questions at 9.44 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJAijGQ5mWQ

Camille Vasquez is good, seriously fking good. Win or loose the trial JD owes her so much.

Never try to destroy someone's life with a lie.... when yours could be destroyed by the truth

Edited by Fermit on Wednesday 25th May 21:49

Edited out the dubious comment in the above post, shame on you.

Rest of it his team indeed are seriously good.

Introducing at this late stage the airport cop who intervened in a 2009 dispute and arrested Heard for assaulting travelling companion and this completely negating some of her previous testimony when AH's lawyers have pretty much run out of time is a master stroke. Genius.

[Rick_1138]

Saw the bit when Johnny Depp was on stand and the defence attorney was just throwing everything at him and brought up text messages.

JD defence was doing a rebuttal and failed to point out the messages that Heards team claimed were from Johnny, clearly had 'incoming' stazmps so they csmr TO JD's phone, not from him.

I hope they can clear that in rebuttasl or closijng as its important

[Fermit]

FiF said:

Edited out the dubious comment in the above post, shame on you.

Oh get over it. It was a joke, that he'd feel like doing so after the blinder she's played for him.

[bstb3]

Rick_1138 said:

Saw the bit when Johnny Depp was on stand and the defence attorney was just throwing everything at him and brought up text messages.

JD defence was doing a rebuttal and failed to point out the messages that Heards team claimed were from Johnny, clearly had 'incoming' stazmps so they csmr TO JD's phone, not from him.

I hope they can clear that in rebuttasl or closijng as its important

That does seem a bit of an odd miss, given how on point his team have generally been. It's possible they may have seen it and there is some justification for it which we aren't aware of (perhaps 'Depp' was on the group chat on two phones, and the phone the message was taken from was not the one that message originated from for example). I'm not sure how they can address it now, it seems they have one witness left in rebuttal so unless they are somehow relevant to the messages I cant see it getting brought up.

There is an image circulating where some of the same language on those texts "I need, I want, I take" is also shown on a sign to Jonny Depp being held by Amber Heard, but if that image is in evidence who knows (and since it's on twitter for all I know it could be completely faked).

In any case, given the rest of the evidence on the day, I doubt those two messages even if proven to be not his would change much. The 'low hanging flappy fish market' text, which Depp didn't deny sending (and the text did say outgoing), was much more damaging to his character. It doesn't prove abuse but does stain somewhat, which likely was the point of getting it in there - showing he isn't as nice and charming as perhaps he comes across in the courtroom.

[768]

I heard someone say that the incoming field had been used for both incoming and outgoing on other messages and he didn't think it was reliable, which may be why it wasn't flagged up. Sounded pretty speculative though.

[originals]

If you're going to go up against such a popular and connected man, you need the truth on your side.

I can only assume she thought the #metoo movement would carry her to victory.

I hope she's finished.

A woman with few, if any redeeming features (I've never understood why people rave about her looks).

[youngsyr]

originals said:

If you're going to go up against such a popular and connected man, you need the truth on your side.

I can only assume she thought the #metoo movement would carry her to victory.

I hope she's finished.

A woman with few, if any redeeming features (I've never understood why people rave about her looks).

Or another plausible expectation is that she felt he would fold in the face of #metoo, rather than even take it to court. This ties in with her threats to him around "Who do you think they'll believe".

[Sway]

youngsyr said:

originals said:

If you're going to go up against such a popular and connected man, you need the truth on your side.

I can only assume she thought the #metoo movement would carry her to victory.

I hope she's finished.

A woman with few, if any redeeming features (I've never understood why people rave about her looks).

Or another plausible expectation is that she felt he would fold in the face of #metoo, rather than even take it to court. This ties in with her threats to him around "Who do you think they'll believe".

She was right. Repeatedly.

She's likely still going to win this case - the one 'win' for Depp is in the court of public opinion, now he's finally had a case broadcast he's got a route to a rebuilt career.

[GCH]

Rick_1138 said:

Saw the bit when Johnny Depp was on stand and the defence attorney was just throwing everything at him and brought up text messages.

JD defence was doing a rebuttal and failed to point out the messages that Heards team claimed were from Johnny, clearly had 'incoming' stazmps so they csmr TO JD's phone, not from him.

I hope they can clear that in rebuttasl or closijng as its important

It was an unusually out of character mistake for his team...but crucially those messages weren't to/from Ms. Turd...... they were about her. I know what I said/sent both about and to my abusive ex spouse when I learned of the infidelity and would look equally awful out of context. Given the divorce rate, statistically there will be some divorced people on the jury. He's also an admitted heavy drinker and drug user, which enhances emotion.
If thats the very best thing Ms. Turd has on rebuttal to put to JD and a sensible use of their highly limited time....well.....


Anyway, it continues.
Team Turd only has just over an hour left in total.
Team Depp has over seven hours in total.
Team Turd still has to call their rebuttals for the countersuit once team Depp have finished with their case rebuttal witnesses today....and team Turd will almost certainly call ms. Turd herself, either as a sole rebuttal, or as their last rebuttal. Presumably, team Depp will them use most of their remaining time for Camille to cross her again, and I predict she will dig her own grave and contradict herself yet again by adding to and changing her prior lies.

Edited by GCH on Thursday 26th May 14:14

[anonymous-user]

I've followed a fair bit of the case, read daily summaries, watched witness/expert testimony on Youtube after the day etc etc.
Seems pretty cut and dry she's made the vast, vast majority of her "evidence" and stories up, and been caught in bare faced lies multiple times.

I still think he'll lose.

[Sway]

Nyphur said:

I've followed a fair bit of the case, read daily summaries, watched witness/expert testimony on Youtube after the day etc etc.
Seems pretty cut and dry she's made the vast, vast majority of her "evidence" and stories up, and been caught in bare faced lies multiple times.

I still think he'll lose.

Agreed.

[FourWheelDrift]

Amber getting lots of love from the crowd as she arrives - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=achsN3h8_Og

[Fermit]

Sway said:

Nyphur said:

I've followed a fair bit of the case, read daily summaries, watched witness/expert testimony on Youtube after the day etc etc.
Seems pretty cut and dry she's made the vast, vast majority of her "evidence" and stories up, and been caught in bare faced lies multiple times.

I still think he'll lose.

Agreed.

I'm holding hope. Camille Vasquez is a far better lawyer than any on AH's team. I think she'll obliterate them in tomorrows closing arguments. What 'evidence' has AH got, which hasn't been disproved? A washed up old brief girlfriend of JD, and her sister?

Win or loose, she's the looser. She's (gladly, IMO) finished. He'll bounce back.

[lauda]

Fermit said:

Win or loose, she's the looser.

Perhaps she's so loose that's why she st the bed?

[Fermit]

lauda said:

Fermit said:

Win or loose, she's the looser.

Perhaps she's so loose that's why she st the bed?

oh FFS. Loser. Always muddling them up

[768]

That was a bit like watching a bunny get gutted alive. Camille didn't seem in the mood for mercy.

[Sway]

Fermit said:

Sway said:

Nyphur said:

I've followed a fair bit of the case, read daily summaries, watched witness/expert testimony on Youtube after the day etc etc.
Seems pretty cut and dry she's made the vast, vast majority of her "evidence" and stories up, and been caught in bare faced lies multiple times.

I still think he'll lose.

Agreed.

I'm holding hope. Camille Vasquez is a far better lawyer than any on AH's team. I think she'll obliterate them in tomorrows closing arguments. What 'evidence' has AH got, which hasn't been disproved? A washed up old brief girlfriend of JD, and her sister?

Win or loose, she's the looser. She's (gladly, IMO) finished. He'll bounce back.

Agreed on your last point.

On your first, I think the issue (ianal) is the bar for proving defamation - I'm not sure that they've been able to meet that bar, although I'll be happily proven wrong.

[Ouroboros]

Nyphur said:

I've followed a fair bit of the case, read daily summaries, watched witness/expert testimony on Youtube after the day etc etc.
Seems pretty cut and dry she's made the vast, vast majority of her "evidence" and stories up, and been caught in bare faced lies multiple times.

I still think he'll lose.

freedom of speech in the USA.

The issue is potentially how uk courts failed JD

[Fermit]

AH 'The Johnny Depp show'. Bitter it's not the Amber Heard show she intended it to be, much! She doesn't know when to stop digging, how anyone can believe a word she says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvt-lo4q4Io