The Hobbit to be filmed in the UK?
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Halb said:
davido140 said:
Weren't locations in middle earth based on places around the UK when Tolkein wrote the books?
The English bits like the Shire were parts of where he grew up, and the goblins technology was the way industrialisation was moving through the Midlands. Doubt he lived near anything like the Lonely mountain or the Misty Mountains.
edit, though I think the desolation of Smaug may also be connect to industrialisation.
Edited by Halb on Monday 25th October 09:58
davido140 said:
grumbledoak said:
davido140 said:
Weren't locations in middle earth based on places around the UK when Tolkein wrote the books?
Mordor was Basingstoke.
I live in Basingstoke, from now on I'm going to refer to it as Mordor!
ViperPict said:
Halb said:
davido140 said:
Weren't locations in middle earth based on places around the UK when Tolkein wrote the books?
The English bits like the Shire were parts of where he grew up, and the goblins technology was the way industrialisation was moving through the Midlands. Doubt he lived near anything like the Lonely mountain or the Misty Mountains.edit, though I think the desolation of Smaug may also be connect to industrialisation.
Edited by Halb on Monday 25th October 09:58
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_%28Middle-earth...
I think it should stay in New Zealand. They did a good job with LOTR. At least allot of the stuff wasn't animated, but being filmed in Britain, the Lonely Mountain, the Misty Mountains, Rivendel...I can't see it. The story is English, and allot of it is based here, but in epic proportions. Do we really have the landscape?
Halb said:
ViperPict said:
Halb said:
davido140 said:
Weren't locations in middle earth based on places around the UK when Tolkein wrote the books?
The English bits like the Shire were parts of where he grew up, and the goblins technology was the way industrialisation was moving through the Midlands. Doubt he lived near anything like the Lonely mountain or the Misty Mountains.edit, though I think the desolation of Smaug may also be connect to industrialisation.
Edited by Halb on Monday 25th October 09:58
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_%28Middle-earth...
Famous Graham said:
ViperPict said:
which has the rolling hills of the Middle Earth shire that home counties and the west Midlands don't.
Apart from the Chilterns.And the Downs.
No idea about West Mids, to be honest, but Berkshire certainly does have "rolling hills".
I'm sure Britain is pretty enough but the main problem is that there are very few places you could film that wouldn't have something in the background. Because New Zealand only has a population of 9 people, it's quite easy to shoot there without having to worry about pylons, villages, roads, signs etc. being in the background.
Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
durbster said:
I'm sure Britain is pretty enough but the main problem is that there are very few places you could film that wouldn't have something in the background. Because New Zealand only has a population of 9 people, it's quite easy to shoot there without having to worry about pylons, villages, roads, signs etc. being in the background.
Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
Those issues are not a big issue in film production these days, as long as they're minor things like pylons etc. I've worked on two films where the general location (Scottish Highlands) was far more important than the presence of minor inidcations of development in the background.Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
T. A. Shippey's "The Road To Middle Earth" has a whole chapter on Tolkien's use of geography and the derivation from real English places - most of those relating to the Shire being fairly closely distributed round Oxford. The willow fringed lowland rivers - Tolkien described Tom Bombadil in his letters as "the spirit of the (vanishing) Oxford and Berkshire countryside", the Barrow Downs (the Berkshire Downs, 15 miles from Oxford, have the highest concentration of barrows in the country), the use of real English place names, etc, all pretty much nail down where the Shire is an analogue for.
durbster said:
I'm sure Britain is pretty enough but the main problem is that there are very few places you could film that wouldn't have something in the background. Because New Zealand only has a population of 9 people, it's quite easy to shoot there without having to worry about pylons, villages, roads, signs etc. being in the background.
Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
Isn't Harry Potter filmed here? I know at least some of it is...Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
thatone1967 said:
durbster said:
I'm sure Britain is pretty enough but the main problem is that there are very few places you could film that wouldn't have something in the background. Because New Zealand only has a population of 9 people, it's quite easy to shoot there without having to worry about pylons, villages, roads, signs etc. being in the background.
Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
Isn't Harry Potter filmed here? I know at least some of it is...Removing them is an expensive and time-consuming process, so it's better that they're not there in the first place.
thatone1967 said:
Isn't Harry Potter filmed here? I know at least some of it is...
Err... I've only seen one of them but isn't it set in the present day? Doesn't really matter that there are buildings in the background then Even if it is easy to remove I still think that, given a choice, it would be preferable for it not to be there in the first place.
I visited Hobbiton set in New Zealand and I remember them saying the only sign of modern life was a barn about a mile ago, so they stuck a bush on top of it. Sorted
They love it there and never stop going on about it, so it would be a shame for it to be moved.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff