The Pacific - Just plain bloody brilliant.
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I thought The Pacific was pretty good, but not a patch on Band of Brothers. I think the problem (for me at least) was that it took me until at least half way through The Pacific to work out which character was which from one episode to the next, and by this point I didn't care either way if their character got killed off. Whereas with Band of Brothers within a couple of episodes I found myself hoping nothing happened to Winters/Nix/Lip/Wild Bill etc
But hey, maybe they made it to be that way, to make the characters in the Pacific seem more anonymous (or maybe its just me being slow to pick it up - who knows).
But hey, maybe they made it to be that way, to make the characters in the Pacific seem more anonymous (or maybe its just me being slow to pick it up - who knows).
sassthathoopie said:
ferrisbueller said:
CatherineJ said:
Talking of which I am sure i've seen B.O.B box set for £20.00. Is that about the going rate as I keep meaning to buy it.
CatherineJ said:
I didn't watch The Pacific either, just couldn't get into it.
Oh dear. Much pissing on chips. I'll reserve judgement until I've finished the series. So far so good, but I'm a bit of a BoB w
e, going so far as to visit some of the places from the series.ferrisbueller said:
sassthathoopie said:
ferrisbueller said:
CatherineJ said:
Talking of which I am sure i've seen B.O.B box set for £20.00. Is that about the going rate as I keep meaning to buy it.
CatherineJ said:
I didn't watch The Pacific either, just couldn't get into it.
Oh dear. Much pissing on chips. I'll reserve judgement until I've finished the series. So far so good, but I'm a bit of a BoB we, going so far as to visit some of the places from the series.Finished watching the whole series yesterday. No, not as good as BoB, but then not much has been.
It's brilliant in its own right and once again reminded me of how lucky I am and the sacrifices others made so that I can have the life I have.
I genuinely cannot imagine what it must have been like to go through those things at all, nevermind as a 17 year old. The recreations are vivid enough to give an idea. The interviews and accounts of the actual people involved bring the whole thing to life. Ordinary people doing extraordinary things.
Humbling.
It's brilliant in its own right and once again reminded me of how lucky I am and the sacrifices others made so that I can have the life I have.
I genuinely cannot imagine what it must have been like to go through those things at all, nevermind as a 17 year old. The recreations are vivid enough to give an idea. The interviews and accounts of the actual people involved bring the whole thing to life. Ordinary people doing extraordinary things.
Humbling.
I did not get in to the series at first but then I read a few books about the war in the Pacific including the Pacific companion book and then I got in to it a lot more.
Not sure about the love stories in the middle of the series but I do think it was good to see more of a human element to the people we see in it. We get to see the contrast between those young men being up to their elbows in blood, guts, gore and misery then within a couple of days of leaving the battle field being back in normal civilisation.
I thought the Okinawa episodes and their return home were the best ones. Okinawa was an absolute hell hole with a staggering loos of life and injury to both sides as well as civilians.
Not sure about the love stories in the middle of the series but I do think it was good to see more of a human element to the people we see in it. We get to see the contrast between those young men being up to their elbows in blood, guts, gore and misery then within a couple of days of leaving the battle field being back in normal civilisation.
I thought the Okinawa episodes and their return home were the best ones. Okinawa was an absolute hell hole with a staggering loos of life and injury to both sides as well as civilians.
Mars said:
I'm up to ep4 so far. I like it but it has less resonance with us in Europe I guess. The history of the pacific war isn't as close to home as the European war.
I am finding it interesting though. I don't know much about the pacific war.
Loys of islandsI am finding it interesting though. I don't know much about the pacific war.
Lots of aircraft carriers
Big bangs at the end
That about sums it up.
I'd like a bit more on the Burmah/India/New Guinea cammpaigns in which the Brits, Aussies, New Zealanders and other Commonwealth forces played a major part.
That campaign is almost completely ignored.
TEKNOPUG said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Band of Brothers = Excellect
The Pacific = Couldn't get into it, gave up after 3 episodes.
This.The Pacific = Couldn't get into it, gave up after 3 episodes.
Lost interest when they were all in Oz and the "romance" etc.
Edited by TEKNOPUG on Tuesday 2nd November 13:02
A mile apart from B.O.B.
Just finished watching the lot. The end credits, where they fade from the actors of each character to the pictures of the real men, and then to the older pictures of the men who are still alive, is quite moving. Makes me think of my own Grandad. He's 90 and served in Europe. The war was such a short period in these men's lives, and they lived whole, entire lives after that, and yet the war is where their thoughts will always return. Grandad talks about the minutae of things around him during that time, all the time. It never leaves him, such was the significance of those days.
XG332 said:
ferrisbueller said:
sassthathoopie said:
ferrisbueller said:
CatherineJ said:
Talking of which I am sure i've seen B.O.B box set for £20.00. Is that about the going rate as I keep meaning to buy it.
CatherineJ said:
I didn't watch The Pacific either, just couldn't get into it.
Oh dear. Much pissing on chips. I'll reserve judgement until I've finished the series. So far so good, but I'm a bit of a BoB we, going so far as to visit some of the places from the series.
The final stop was a visit to museums at Paschendale, and Bastogne. Having watched BofB at least 10 times each we decided to try and find the wood overlooking Foy.
There is a small plaque placed by the survivors of Easy Company next to a forest plantation, so we went for a look around.
The forest was littered with relic foxholes, particularly along the perimeter. The majority were fairly shallow having subsided over the years, but we found four or five deep ones.
The view down the hill to Foy is very similar to the set used in the series. In fact the series represented the wood so well we felt like we knew it.
As it was starting to get dark we decided to maintain the wild camping theme that we'd followed throughout the trip. We hid the car in the trees well away from the road
It was my brother's turn to cook
Once it got dark we dug out the bivvy bags. Rob woke up the following morning before me...
I haven't ever posted these pics up before because I expected a TECKNOPLUG style response. We owe a debt of gratitude to so many people of that generation. The likelihood is that I will never be asked to make the sacrifices they did. For me sleeping overnight there was a humbling experience, and very difficult to describe. But I'm glad I did it.
I would hate for it to become a big thing though with lots of people tramping all over the site.
Eric Mc said:
Mr. Potato Head said:
I'd rather fight Nazi Germans than I would fight Bushido Japanese.
Brutal.
10/10
I think the Russians would disagree.Brutal.
10/10
Generally, the war in the west was more "civilised (if war can ever be described in that way) than the war on the Eastern Front.
I was thinking more of comparisons between BoB and The Pacific
I wasnt keen on The Pacific.
It had so much potential big budget, same director, but it just wasnt the same.
I dont know about anybody else but the love interest killed it for me. I felt after episode 4-5 we spend way to much time looking at the love relationship rather than concentrate on the war. Personally I would have killed her off quickly and followed him fighting battles without any hope or direction, making uneccassary risks and inevitably leading to a careless death.
It had so much potential big budget, same director, but it just wasnt the same.
I dont know about anybody else but the love interest killed it for me. I felt after episode 4-5 we spend way to much time looking at the love relationship rather than concentrate on the war. Personally I would have killed her off quickly and followed him fighting battles without any hope or direction, making uneccassary risks and inevitably leading to a careless death.
TEKNOPUG said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Band of Brothers = Excellect
The Pacific = Couldn't get into it, gave up after 3 episodes.
This.The Pacific = Couldn't get into it, gave up after 3 episodes.
Lost interest when they were all in Oz and the "romance" etc.
Edited by TEKNOPUG on Tuesday 2nd November 13:02
sassthathoopie said:
The final stop was a visit to museums at Paschendale, and Bastogne. Having watched BofB at least 10 times each we decided to try and find the wood overlooking Foy.
There is a small plaque placed by the survivors of Easy Company next to a forest plantation, so we went for a look around.
The forest was littered with relic foxholes, particularly along the perimeter. The majority were fairly shallow having subsided over the years, but we found four or five deep ones.
These pics are quite haunting, and serves to show how well represented the area was in a hanger in Herfordshire in BoB.There is a small plaque placed by the survivors of Easy Company next to a forest plantation, so we went for a look around.
The forest was littered with relic foxholes, particularly along the perimeter. The majority were fairly shallow having subsided over the years, but we found four or five deep ones.
Nive one..!!
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