Dream School - Jamie Oliver
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markh1973 said:
dugt said:
bull996 said:
My god that bleach blonde girl is hot!!!
Glad it wasnt just me that thought that. dugt said:
markh1973 said:
dugt said:
bull996 said:
My god that bleach blonde girl is hot!!!
Glad it wasnt just me that thought that. 69 coupe said:
At the end of the day they'll all turn out all right. This is a Jamie Oliver TV Show in a very similar vain to 'School dinners' and Michael Roux's 'Service' they all turned out smashing. Mostly 
Difference is, Michel Roux's teaching style was absolutely faultless and something he's clearly done alongside being a chef for many years. I'm not entirely sure getting pre-eminent experts to teach drop-outs made sense. I mean, who would you think would make the better physics teacher for a bunch of disengaged teenagers - Richard Hammond or Stephen Hawking?Engaging on their level is the key to good teaching. I agree that discipline isn't what it should be (a consequence of too many rights without responsibilities and a fear of being sued added to newfangled left-wing teaching practices embraced and backed without question by teaching unions). However, the best starting block as far as discipline and respect goes is to make the pupils feel valued. Telling them first-off that they're 'failures' does the opposite.
The thing that really riled me about teacher-training though was this assertion that we had to 'teach according to attention-span' and chop lessons up into barely-coherent 'chunks' so the kids could understand.
I'm sorry, but you're supposed to go into school a child and emerge an adult. Part of adulthood is a longer concentration span, an ability to concentrate, recognise sensible behaviour and right from wrong. These should be forced in schools. The comments made time and again by business leaders about the ill-preparedness of school leavers in the workplace, unable to concentrate, with an insubordinate attitude, constantly distracted by bleeping gadgets and unable to meaningfully contribute, is being practically encouraged in schools by teaching unions who refuse to take on board anything said by anyone who may not have the endorsement of the Labour Party. I'm not joking - new teachers are told as part of their training to vote Labour in their own interests.
Twincam16 said:
69 coupe said:
At the end of the day they'll all turn out all right. This is a Jamie Oliver TV Show in a very similar vain to 'School dinners' and Michael Roux's 'Service' they all turned out smashing. Mostly
Difference is, Michel Roux's teaching style was absolutely faultless and something he's clearly done alongside being a chef for many years. I'm not entirely sure getting pre-eminent experts to teach drop-outs made sense. I mean, who would you think would make the better physics teacher for a bunch of disengaged teenagers - Richard Hammond or Stephen Hawking?Engaging on their level is the key to good teaching. I agree that discipline isn't what it should be (a consequence of too many rights without responsibilities and a fear of being sued added to newfangled left-wing teaching practices embraced and backed without question by teaching unions). However, the best starting block as far as discipline and respect goes is to make the pupils feel valued. Telling them first-off that they're 'failures' does the opposite.
The thing that really riled me about teacher-training though was this assertion that we had to 'teach according to attention-span' and chop lessons up into barely-coherent 'chunks' so the kids could understand.
I'm sorry, but you're supposed to go into school a child and emerge an adult. Part of adulthood is a longer concentration span, an ability to concentrate, recognise sensible behaviour and right from wrong. These should be forced in schools. The comments made time and again by business leaders about the ill-preparedness of school leavers in the workplace, unable to concentrate, with an insubordinate attitude, constantly distracted by bleeping gadgets and unable to meaningfully contribute, is being practically encouraged in schools by teaching unions who refuse to take on board anything said by anyone who may not have the endorsement of the Labour Party. I'm not joking - new teachers are told as part of their training to vote Labour in their own interests.
tank slapper said:
Symbolica said:
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL is going to be the politics teacher?!? Is that supposed to be a wind-up? 
I actually think he is a good choice. Regardless of whether you agree with his views, he is undoubtedly a superb political operator in the same way Mandleson is. He understands the way politics works and how people react to it. That is how he was successful in persuading the country to vote for Blair.Teach them economics - a far far more important area to understand.
MiniMan64 said:
Is anyone posting on this thread an actual teacher?
Not classroom based, but I do teach music in schools, mostly on a one to one basis or in small groups. Some class team-teaching too. However, my dad was a teacher for 40+ years, and I spend 3-4 days a week in a lot of different schools and see what goes on.Fair enough, so there are a few people with actual teaching experience posting then.
I actually avoided this last night but given the dicussion in the staffroom today, I felt I had to crank up 4oD and it's hilarious!
David Starkey in instant job-loss moment! Try calling a pupil fat in class and see what happens, kids hold most of the cards these days and they know it.
I actually avoided this last night but given the dicussion in the staffroom today, I felt I had to crank up 4oD and it's hilarious!
David Starkey in instant job-loss moment! Try calling a pupil fat in class and see what happens, kids hold most of the cards these days and they know it.
ks? NiceCupOfTea said:
Not classroom based, but I do teach music in schools, mostly on a one to one basis or in small groups. Some class team-teaching too. However, my dad was a teacher for 40+ years, and I spend 3-4 days a week in a lot of different schools and see what goes on.
Hmm, likewise - both parents were teachers and am now a peri (god knows why I didn't learn the lessons given what my parents were put through...) It's interesting being in lots of schools, it most certainly gives you a cross section of the education system, but the sad fact is that it is simply an impossible job given the demands imposed and yet the lack of actual authority to implement! Silver Smudger said:
dugt said:
markh1973 said:
dugt said:
bull996 said:
My god that bleach blonde girl is hot!!!
Glad it wasnt just me that thought that. 
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