Chris Huhne... going soon?
Discussion
I love irony.
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2011/05/chris-huhne-...
Courts are sexist.
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2011/05/chris-huhne-...
Bedazzled said:
If Vicky Pryce did take the points, presumably she signed a form saying so, and is just as guilty of lying to the police. And yet she's claiming the moral high-ground insisting on 'honesty', a mere 8 years later. A woman scorned, and being exploited by political opponents, why get behind that?
A wife is subject to control of her husband, or at least that can be the opinion of a court. Further they might feel that the person who was at risk, him, put pressure on his wife to take the points, there being a sort of moral blackmail.Courts are sexist.
Derek Smith said:
A wife is subject to control of her husband, or at least that can be the opinion of a court. Further they might feel that the person who was at risk, him, put pressure on his wife to take the points, there being a sort of moral blackmail.
Courts are sexist.
Or he intercepted her msil and kindly signed her S172 declaration on her behalf. First thing she knows about it is a conditional offer of FPN, all very messy to get out of since you're married to the git who stitched you up.Courts are sexist.
don4l said:
Guido Fawkes is suggesting that Newsnight will be covering this story tonight - with an emphasis on the fact that Vicky Price was at a London Conference when the speeding offence took place.
Indeed they di, and Michael Crick also suggested that she went out to dinner with some colleagues after the conference was over making it wirtually impossible for her to have been on the M11 at the time of the offence. It shouldn't be too hard to prove one way or another.Crick also deconstructed Huhn's defence that this was "old story", what a lying hound he is, the Huhn story starts at 22mins, Crick at 28.40...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011cp3p/News...
Andy Zarse said:
don4l said:
Guido Fawkes is suggesting that Newsnight will be covering this story tonight - with an emphasis on the fact that Vicky Price was at a London Conference when the speeding offence took place.
Indeed they di, and Michael Crick also suggested that she went out to dinner with some colleagues after the conference was over making it wirtually impossible for her to have been on the M11 at the time of the offence. It shouldn't be too hard to prove one way or another.Crick also deconstructed Huhn's defence that this was "old story", what a lying hound he is, the Huhn story starts at 22mins, Crick at 28.40...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011cp3p/News...
Dave Cameron, who had earlier expressed confidence in Huhne, blatently refused to support him later in the day.
It reflects badly on modern society that such duplicitous behaviour has not already led to his resignation.
In the past, the fact that the man had left his wife and children would have made him unfit for high public office.
Don
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don4l said:
Huhne does seem to think that we are all gullible fools. His interview at lunchtime yesterday was utterly unconvincing. In fact, it really insulted the intelligence of the viewer.
Dave Cameron, who had earlier expressed confidence in Huhne, blatently refused to support him later in the day.
It reflects badly on modern society that such duplicitous behaviour has not already led to his resignation.
In the past, the fact that the man had left his wife and children would have made him unfit for high public office.
Don
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DC didn't actually express confidence in him. No. 10 did. DC worded it as though Huhne had said he was innocent and didn't give an opinion.Dave Cameron, who had earlier expressed confidence in Huhne, blatently refused to support him later in the day.
It reflects badly on modern society that such duplicitous behaviour has not already led to his resignation.
In the past, the fact that the man had left his wife and children would have made him unfit for high public office.
Don
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Bedazzled said:
Even if he put her name on the form without her knowledge, when she received the NIP she decided to go along with it.
In the scenario I outlined, not 'going along with it' would have involved shopping her husband to the police for forgery, personation and attempted PCOJ. I'm not sure I could do that to the Mrs for the sake of 3 points and £60, could you?KENZ said:
Indeed saw that quote. I'll be surprised if he lasts today. What an idoit. This lot is making the last lot look like saints..lol
So far though, it seems to be the LibDems who're causing most of the problems, what with Huhne and Laws over the last couple of weeks alone. Not to mention Cable undermining Cameron at every turn and being something of a loose cannon.Edited by KENZ on Tuesday 17th May 09:50
Bedazzled said:
Vicky Pryce is not some timid housewife, she's an intelligent and successful economist. Even if he put her name on the form without her knowledge, when she received the NIP she decided to go along with it, and yet he's taking all the flak.
It wouldn't surprise me if he did it, of course, although it's not impossible for her to have been in the area at roughly the time he left the airport. Nobody seems to know what time the speeding ticket was, either.
Her part in this is irrelevant. He is a minister of the crown, and we expect a certain degree of personal integrity from him. He seems to be falling woefully short on this front. It wouldn't surprise me if he did it, of course, although it's not impossible for her to have been in the area at roughly the time he left the airport. Nobody seems to know what time the speeding ticket was, either.
He also seems to have been quite ruthless in his rise up the ranks of the Lib Dems. This ruthlessness means that he has few friends who are willing to defend him in his hour of need.
Did you watch the "Calamity Clegg" interview that was posted earlier in this thread?
Don
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JPJPJP said:
what would the offence be if he had indeed passed the points to his wife?
would she also be guilty of an offence for allowing this to happen?
The offence is "Perverting the course of justice". It often results in a prison sentence of between 9 and 18 months.would she also be guilty of an offence for allowing this to happen?
She could also be guilty of the same offence. However, the court would take into account any pressure that he might have applied to her.
Don
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don4l said:
The offence is "Perverting the course of justice". It often results in a prison sentence of between 9 and 18 months.
She could also be guilty of the same offence. However, the court would take into account any pressure that he might have applied to her.
Don
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This case will go nowhere unless Pryce wants to land herself with a conviction, which IMO is quite unlikely. She had the perfect opportunity to advise the police that Huhne had made a "mistake" when he completed the NIP and that it was in fact her husband driving. The question of marital pressure will only affect the sentence I suspect, not her guilt of being complicit in the offence.She could also be guilty of the same offence. However, the court would take into account any pressure that he might have applied to her.
Don
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