Bitcoins?

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Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
Quickest way of selling 2 BTC?
Send them me I will sell them for you honest.

Gecko1978

9,768 posts

158 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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isleofthorns said:
fiju said:
Quickest way of selling 2 BTC?
we're several years in to cryptos being mainstream, and even the answer to the above is not obvious - hardly surprising bitcoin is still held by a relatively small number of holders.
You could get a coin base debit card an withdraw the cash from an ATM.

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Gecko1978 said:
You could get a coin base debit card an withdraw the cash from an ATM.
Over 40k ? lots of trips to the ATM that.

fiju

704 posts

64 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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I have a coinbase account, and my BTC is on a ledger nano. Is it safe to just stick it all into coinbase and cash out? What would the charges be like?

tertius

6,858 posts

231 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
I have a coinbase account, and my BTC is on a ledger nano. Is it safe to just stick it all into coinbase and cash out? What would the charges be like?
I’ve not used Coinbase but they would probably be:

A. Network transaction fees to move your BTC to Coinbase (small)
B. Exchange fees for the sell transaction (small)
C. Money transfer fees (depends what Coinbase charge? Should be in their Ts&Cs)
D. Foreign exchange fees to convert to GBP (pretty small)
E. CGT (up to 20% on the gain net of any CGT allowance)


fiju

704 posts

64 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Thanks. How is cgt worked out and applied?

I remember a few years back before the crash, the lightning network hadn't been implemented yet and charges were sky high. What's it like now?

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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I assume you self declare on a Self Assessment tax return.

tertius

6,858 posts

231 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
Thanks. How is cgt worked out and applied?

I remember a few years back before the crash, the lightning network hadn't been implemented yet and charges were sky high. What's it like now?
https://www.gov.uk/capital-gains-tax/rates

https://bitcoinfees.net/

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
Quickest way of selling 2 BTC?
Liquidate buy using them to buy something. Suggest 2 dozen high class Eastern European hookers.

No CGT then either and a stable income.....



(Assume hookers are still doing business in the Covid age....?)

g4ry13

17,066 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Not-The-Messiah said:
Gecko1978 said:
You could get a coin base debit card an withdraw the cash from an ATM.
Over 40k ? lots of trips to the ATM that.
Use a Bitcoin ATM.

ADEuk

1,911 posts

237 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
I have a coinbase account, and my BTC is on a ledger nano. Is it safe to just stick it all into coinbase and cash out? What would the charges be like?
If you've linked your bank account the only coinbase fee is on the sale to fiat.
You can also link your PayPal account and transfer the fiat to there for zero fees

vindaloo79

963 posts

81 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
Thanks. How is cgt worked out and applied?
As the end of tax year is April 5th then you may find you can benefit from selling some either side of this date to have this years and next years gains to play with.


stemll

4,119 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
I have a coinbase account, and my BTC is on a ledger nano. Is it safe to just stick it all into coinbase and cash out? What would the charges be like?
Ledger have an Exchange app you can install on your nano which will sell through Conify. I did this late last year and was pretty painless. Can't remember what the fees were. Mine was only just over £900 worth, you may (almost certainly will) find that your bank will ask you where £40k came from if that is an unusual amount for your account.

https://www.ledger.com/sell-bitcoin

fiju

704 posts

64 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Thanks.

So if the bank asks where this money came from, what's to stop me from saying it was from the sale of personal possessions? I can't prove it, but neither can they disprove it.

The other way I was thinking was to get it paid into PayPal, then drip feed it into my bank account.

g4ry13

17,066 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
Thanks.

So if the bank asks where this money came from, what's to stop me from saying it was from the sale of personal possessions? I can't prove it, but neither can they disprove it.

The other way I was thinking was to get it paid into PayPal, then drip feed it into my bank account.
Got a family member / partner you trust that hasn't made any money from investments over the year? You could always give them a nice bitcoin gift.

Chances are HMRC won't find out but the consequences of a random audit may not be worth it.

ReallyReallyGood

1,623 posts

131 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
Thanks.

So if the bank asks where this money came from, what's to stop me from saying it was from the sale of personal possessions? I can't prove it, but neither can they disprove it.

The other way I was thinking was to get it paid into PayPal, then drip feed it into my bank account.
Pardon my ignorance, why can't you just tell them it came from BTC? Bank not likey?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
Thanks.

So if the bank asks where this money came from, what's to stop me from saying it was from the sale of personal possessions? I can't prove it, but neither can they disprove it.

The other way I was thinking was to get it paid into PayPal, then drip feed it into my bank account.
Why can't you just tell them the truth?

Some Gump

12,720 posts

187 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Bitcoin: Not for tax evasion then? =)

fiju

704 posts

64 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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ReallyReallyGood said:
Pardon my ignorance, why can't you just tell them it came from BTC? Bank not likey?
Let's say I do, what happens next?

g4ry13

17,066 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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fiju said:
ReallyReallyGood said:
Pardon my ignorance, why can't you just tell them it came from BTC? Bank not likey?
Let's say I do, what happens next?
Nothing.