Is it time to bring back the death penalty?

[AJS-]

I will start them if I can access the bloody thing.

I don't really buy the argument that being part of Europe irredeemably prevents us from restoring it. We're still ultimately a sovereign country and if the political will was there then we could quite easily repeal all or part of the relevant treaties. Anyway it's not only the UK whose experiment with liberal justice hasn't been a roaring success and it's quite likely that if one European country was seriously on track to restore the DP then a few more would follow.


My experience of jury duty was on a rape case and I was quite impressed by how seriously most people took it. Even though they were working class mostly.

[CommanderJameson]

AJS- said:

I will start them if I can access the bloody thing.

I don't really buy the argument that being part of Europe irredeemably prevents us from restoring it. We're still ultimately a sovereign country and if the political will was there then we could quite easily repeal all or part of the relevant treaties.

The political will isn't there, and is unlikely to be there in the foreseeable future, amongst those parties with any realistic chance of holding office.

AJS- said:

Anyway it's not only the UK whose experiment with liberal justice hasn't been a roaring success and it's quite likely that if one European country was seriously on track to restore the DP then a few more would follow.

What other countries are in the same boat?

AJS- said:

My experience of jury duty was on a rape case and I was quite impressed by how seriously most people took it. Even though they were working class mostly.

Did they also astound you by being able to write and tie their own laces? Not at the same time, obviously. Let's be sensible, eh?

[AJS-]

CommanderJameson said:

AJS- said:

I will start them if I can access the bloody thing.

I don't really buy the argument that being part of Europe irredeemably prevents us from restoring it. We're still ultimately a sovereign country and if the political will was there then we could quite easily repeal all or part of the relevant treaties.

The political will isn't there, and is unlikely to be there in the foreseeable future, amongst those parties with any realistic chance of holding office.

No because the will isn't there in the parties, or really in the people. If it started to snowball over a slow-news August, and MPs really saw it as a vote winner than it could get some parliamentary time. Then you're in the hands of events. Supposing there was a high profile child murderer caught during that time then the issue could take a whole new turn.

CommanderJameson said:

AJS- said:

Anyway it's not only the UK whose experiment with liberal justice hasn't been a roaring success and it's quite likely that if one European country was seriously on track to restore the DP then a few more would follow.

What other countries are in the same boat?

Which aren't? France, Spain, Italy, Germany for starters.

CommanderJameson said:

AJS- said:

My experience of jury duty was on a rape case and I was quite impressed by how seriously most people took it. Even though they were working class mostly.

Did they also astound you by being able to write and tie their own laces? Not at the same time, obviously. Let's be sensible, eh?

Was being a bit tongue-in-cheek but perfectly sensible. I meant that they were not all intellectuals or legal experts, yet they took the case seriously and gave it careful consideration and discussion rather than treating it like Big Brother and deciding on the basis of who they liked or disliked.

[Robbo101]

To answer the OPs original question, no. However, somewhat less luxurious surroundings in HM Prisons might be a good thing.