Right to self-defence in homes to be 'much clearer'
Discussion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13957587
After our and five other houses were attacked Monday night i hope we at last get some clear law on this and are able to defend against these scum...
S
Asked about what this would mean in practice, he said: "If an old lady finds she's got an 18 year old burgling her house and she picks up a kitchen knife and sticks it in him she has not committed a criminal offence and we will make that clear."
After our and five other houses were attacked Monday night i hope we at last get some clear law on this and are able to defend against these scum...
S
Asked about what this would mean in practice, he said: "If an old lady finds she's got an 18 year old burgling her house and she picks up a kitchen knife and sticks it in him she has not committed a criminal offence and we will make that clear."
Edited by superkartracer on Wednesday 29th June 11:37
Shuvi Tupya said:
This law will never go far enough in the UK.
as far as i am concerned there should not be any difference between chasing a burglar down the street and killing him, than doing it in your own house.
Why should they be allowed to run away/ come back/ run away / come back...
He's just giving you a chance to reload.as far as i am concerned there should not be any difference between chasing a burglar down the street and killing him, than doing it in your own house.
Why should they be allowed to run away/ come back/ run away / come back...
Jobbo said:
How many more cases will there be of householders having their own weapons used against them? I don't want to be overpowered as I attempt to stab a burglar.
Just sit there and let them rob you then! what he's saying is... if you DO decide to defend your wife/kids from being possibly raped and killed then you wont be locked-up.I don't want to run after people but if they are in the house then i'll cut them in two with my shotgun
Simple
superkartracer said:
Jobbo said:
How many more cases will there be of householders having their own weapons used against them? I don't want to be overpowered as I attempt to stab a burglar.
Just sit there and let them rob you then! what he's saying is... if you DO decide to defend your wife/kids from being possibly raped and killed then you wont be locked-up.I don't want to run after people but if they are in the house then i'll cut them in two with my shotgun
Simple
superkartracer said:
Jobbo said:
How many more cases will there be of householders having their own weapons used against them? I don't want to be overpowered as I attempt to stab a burglar.
Just sit there and let them rob you then! what he's saying is... if you DO decide to defend your wife/kids from being possibly raped and killed then you wont be locked-up.Buggles said:
I have always fancied getting some sort of replica assault rifle for this very reason.
But then I figure the burglars would know that it's pretty unlikely I'd have a real one and I'd have to resort to battering them with the stock.
So buy a real one:But then I figure the burglars would know that it's pretty unlikely I'd have a real one and I'd have to resort to battering them with the stock.
www.southern-gun.co.uk
http://www.bradleyarms.com/products.html
www.ar15.co.uk
I think it's a good idea. Even if the very definitions of what weapons/situations would be allowed is not seens as terribly helpful, the general shift to recognising that the home-owner should be the default innocent party in most cases is a good move, surely?
I must get around to putting my Ray Mears axe away. 6 months since receiving it, and it's still casually sitting on my bedside table.
I must get around to putting my Ray Mears axe away. 6 months since receiving it, and it's still casually sitting on my bedside table.
Buggles said:
I have always fancied getting some sort of replica assault rifle for this very reason.
But then I figure the burglars would know that it's pretty unlikely I'd have a real one and I'd have to resort to battering them with the stock.
Get a deactivated Chinese AK (a Type 56) which has a permanently fitted spring loaded bayonet. If the sight of the rifle doesn't scare them, the sudden appearance of a foot of cold steel should. If it doesn't - in, twist, out. Repeat as necessary.But then I figure the burglars would know that it's pretty unlikely I'd have a real one and I'd have to resort to battering them with the stock.
I wouldn't do this, though. I have a big dog. And a shotgun.
ErnestM said:
IMHO, it is close to worthless recognizing a homeowner's right to self defense but at the same time denying people the right to own the proper tools to do so.
I do suppose it is a (very small) step in the right direction, though.
Because the US is such a peaceful safe place to live.I do suppose it is a (very small) step in the right direction, though.
Jobbo said:
..And I'm extrapolating the consequences. Householders learn that they are entitled to defend themselves, acquire knives (or leave the kitchen knives in convenient locations) and what will happen? Lots of stabbed burglars or lots of stabbed householders...?
If homeowners are allowed the right tools, this would probably be the result.Again, IMHO, a way forward for the UK would be to allow people to keep handguns/firearms in their homes for lawful self defense. The announcement of that policy, alone, would probably deter a great many would be home invaders.
Don't want people walking around with their heaters? OK. I disagree, but recognise that it will be a long road for the UK to go from personal defense being the responsibility of the State to personal defense being the responsibility of the person. However, defending one's home/family seems to be (in the parlance of the politically correct) a basic human right.
Of course the leftists and media (but I repeat myself) won't like it but they will be hard pressed to explain the drop in home invasions after the policy allowing home self defense with firearms is announced. Even the US media are hard pressed to explain it...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/fbi-crime-stats-show-...
Bing o said:
ErnestM said:
IMHO, it is close to worthless recognizing a homeowner's right to self defense but at the same time denying people the right to own the proper tools to do so.
I do suppose it is a (very small) step in the right direction, though.
Because the US is such a peaceful safe place to live.I do suppose it is a (very small) step in the right direction, though.
Burglaries are on the increase so this comes at an opportune moment, and not before time.
My property is exactly that... mine!
Perhaps a little notice on the front door?
WARNING!
You enter at your own risk if my family has not invited you, or if we do not know you.
We cannot be held responsible for any actions against unknown, uninvited persons.
We apologise for this inconvenience. Mr & Mrs Baseballbat
This won't prevent burglaries, but perhaps they won't go on rising at the same rate.
My property is exactly that... mine!
Perhaps a little notice on the front door?
WARNING!
You enter at your own risk if my family has not invited you, or if we do not know you.
We cannot be held responsible for any actions against unknown, uninvited persons.
We apologise for this inconvenience. Mr & Mrs Baseballbat
This won't prevent burglaries, but perhaps they won't go on rising at the same rate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-139561...
Looking on POLICE.uk in our area this has gone from 1 or 2 a month to over 15 last month and 6 attacks Monday night ( including your house )
Scary times..
Looking on POLICE.uk in our area this has gone from 1 or 2 a month to over 15 last month and 6 attacks Monday night ( including your house )
Scary times..
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