Any decent newspapers?

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scottdav

Original Poster:

165 posts

172 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Back in a trade where its a case of buy your food and paper then sit in the van. They just all seem to spout rubbish though. Today for instance was Cheryl and Ashley Cole taking up 3/4 of the front page, that's bad enough to me but they were doubles ffs!

Seen a few topics on individual papers but never an overall one. I want to know more about each paper and if they're known to have dubious owners/ history/ motives etc so i can just stay well clear. I also see many comments on here randomly saying 'you're such a *** reader' for posting their opinion and have no idea what they're on about.


TLDR
Say why you read yours and not others, or even none at all.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Sun & Times both owned by Murdoch
Guardian owned by a trust, is very lefty
Daily Mail has a history of fascism, is now obsessed with celebrity, immigration and cancer
Daily Express is as above but not as good
Daily Telegraph is right leaning, used to be owned by Conrad Black
Independent is owned by a Russian oligarch
Daily Star is a comic

I think that covers it.

scottdav

Original Poster:

165 posts

172 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Thanks, we also now have a template biggrin

Sun
Times
Guardian
Daily Mail
Daily Express
Daily Telegraph
Independent
Daily Star

Feel free to delete/add any and rant, i'll read it.

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

204 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Kelvin Mackenzie is going to be writing for the Mail.
That could be fun!

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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davepoth said:
Sun & Times both owned by Murdoch
Guardian owned by a trust, is very lefty
Daily Mail has a history of fascism, is now obsessed with celebrity, immigration and cancer
Daily Express is as above but not as good
Daily Telegraph is right leaning, used to be owned by Conrad Black
Independent is owned by a Russian oligarch
Daily Star is a comic

I think that covers it.
Ah hah! an invitation to add one me thinks, a newspaper that has fought tooth and nail for decades to stay in print. A newspaper which carries its original headline banner to this day and is a must read in understanding (or not) the other section of this populated world. Yes I am talking about MORNING STAR.
Surprised nobody else mentioned it. hippy

Crafty_

13,297 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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The papers according to Mr Hacker:

http://youtu.be/DGscoaUWW2M

172ff

3,671 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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scottdav said:
Thanks, we also now have a template biggrin

Sun
Times
Guardian
Daily Mail
Daily Express
Daily Telegraph
Independent
Daily Star

Feel free to delete/add any and rant, i'll read it.
What about the "i"?

The Metro takes all its rubbish out of the Mail iirc?

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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172ff said:
What about the "i"?

The Metro takes all its rubbish out of the Mail iirc?
The "i" takes all it's rubbish out of the Independent too, so they don't really count.

unrepentant

21,270 posts

257 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Only ever read The Times. All the others are comics.

jbi

12,674 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Telegraph

/thread

chrisispringles

893 posts

166 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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unrepentant said:
Only ever read The Times. All the others are comics.
This. The Times is fairly partisan and reports on real news, not on celebrity crap like so many others. I guess The Independant is okay as well, but only if I can't get a copy of The Times, the rest are rubbish.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

248 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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davepoth said:
The "i" takes all it's rubbish out of the Independent too, so they don't really count.
True but as I never read a whole article, preferring instead to concentrate on salient points and skimming the rest, it suits me at 20p. I always apply a bias filter depending upon which paper I'm reading so the fact that it's the Independent isn't a hardship.

Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Times is OK, Telegraph OK but less OK than the times. Guardian is great for some stuff but their lentil weaving and left leaning gets on my wick if I delve beyond the science, tech and food related stuff.

I seldom bother with any of them any more, there's no really good papers out there IMO

AiThi

23,901 posts

195 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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The times, the economist and the spectator with a little private eye thrown in does me. The last few are not newspapers, but news related reading materials instead.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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The Times is read by the people who run the country.
The Daily Mirror is read by the people who think they run the country.
The Guardian is read by the people who think they ought to run the country.
The Morning Star is read by the people who think the country ought to be run by another country.
The Independent is read by people who don't know who runs the country but are sure they're doing it wrong.
The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country.
The Financial Times is read by the people who own the country.
The Daily Express is read by the people who think the country ought to be run as it used to be run.
The Daily Telegraph is read by the people who still think it is.
And the Sun's readers don't care who runs the country providing she has big tits.

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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I'm currently reading Flat Earth News at the recommendation of another PHer on another thread. It is written by an obvious lefty who seems to be slightly clouded on some issues however it does open your eyes as to what, how and who "makes" news.

Whilst I've always been cynical about a lot of "news" I've begun to realise that I am in no way cynical enough. In the vast majority of cases "news" is simply regurgitated PR turd sometimes polished with a political stance, it doesn't matter who publishes it.

Lefty

16,163 posts

203 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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I get all my news via RSS, (AP, Reuters, FT and Telegraph.)

If it's a case of buying an actual, you know, paper paper then it's the FT. Just news, no celebrity BS. It's great.

XJ40

5,983 posts

214 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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I've not bought an actual newspaper in quite a long while, I get all my news online (and C4 news).

I think a variety is good. I like the Telegraph for general and financial, the FT for specific financial, the Guardian for culture and tend to do the BBC for sport. Oh, and the Daily Mash for satire! Although not a newspaper as such I give the Economist a look from time to time.

matchmaker

8,496 posts

201 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Up her in Scotland we also have the Daily Record (think a tartan version of the Mirror), The Herald and The Scotsman. The second two aren't too bad, although a bit of a Glasgow/Edinburgh split here.

Anywhere north of about Stirling/Perth will also be graced (if that is the word) with that institution known as The Press & Journal rolleyesrolleyes

Willie Dee

1,559 posts

209 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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jbi said:
Telegraph

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It used to be right wing but bearable, now it has an ex Daily Mail staff member running it it has gone down hill massively and isn't even trying to hide it.

Interesting to note that only the Guardian had the balls to go after the Murdoch empire and expose the NOTW hacking, it is a centre left wing paper but at the moment its the only one with any kind of credibility when it comes to investigative journalism.