Sharia Law taking precedence in the UK? Fact or Fiction.

Sharia Law taking precedence in the UK? Fact or Fiction.

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Steffan

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10,362 posts

229 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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From the comments I have seen in various news items it would seem that there are now parts of the UK where Sharia Law is being applied throughout the areas concerned. With public notices being put up thereabouts.

Three question.

Is this right and proper?

Should the authorities act to stop this now?

Is anyone in favour of thus being allowed?

I am interested to see the views of others.




pacman1

7,322 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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No, yes, no.

Otherwise it makes a mockery of our own judicial system.

Poeple should respect the laws of their chosen country.

Shuvi Tupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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But surely those stickers they are putting up are only rules that those in the Muslim Club are expected to obey?

No policeman is going to arrest you for doing something those stickers tell you not to do, i would hope..


Gun

13,431 posts

219 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Sharia Law will never take precedence in the UK no matter what the likes of that moron Anjem Choudary say or do.

FourWheelDrift

88,554 posts

285 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Steffan said:
From the comments I have seen in various news items it would seem that there are now parts of the UK where Sharia Law is being applied throughout the areas concerned. With public notices being put up thereabouts.
Only a few loonies are putting up posters to provoke reaction, the areas are not under Sharia law.

Mojooo

12,743 posts

181 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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The simple answer is no.

With regards to the areas you have referenced - presumably if they tried to enforce it then they coudl be arrested for tkaing away peoples freedoms.


Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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pacman1 said:
No, yes, no.

Otherwise it makes a mockery of our own judicial system.

Poeple should respect the laws of their chosen country.
But who makes those laws?

There will come a time when the majority of those in power will be of moslem faith, it's only a matter of time

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Tadite

560 posts

185 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Apache said:
But who makes those laws?

There will come a time when the majority of those in power will be of moslem faith, it's only a matter of time
That's impossible. Even that most dramatic projections (by people who aren't crazy) would suggest that Eu-27 by the end of the Century would at best be 20% muslim and only 8% by 2030.


davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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We've had religious courts in the UK for a very long time indeed. What's new is that some nutters are trying to suggest that their jurisdiction extends beyond those who follow that religion. That bloke with the ginger beard deserves a slap.

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Tadite said:
Apache said:
But who makes those laws?

There will come a time when the majority of those in power will be of moslem faith, it's only a matter of time
That's impossible. Even that most dramatic projections (by people who aren't crazy) would suggest that Eu-27 by the end of the Century would at best be 20% muslim and only 8% by 2030.
Thing is, nobody can make accurate predictions about anything on that timescale or anywhere close. In 1920 people would no more have been able to forecast that in 2011 white Britains would make up only 55% of London's population than they would have been able to predict the iPod. Six years ago the EU said the population of Western Europe would fall by 16 million by 2050. Four years later they decided it will increase by 10 million. In a few years time they'll think something else, then something else again. Truth is, they've no more of a clue than anyone else and the longer the timescale, the less idea they have. The key to keeping Islam in check lies not in prediction but an understing of what's happening now. Unfortunately it's seen as intolerant or racist to even seek this knowledge and, heaven forfend, actually speak about it.

MX7

7,902 posts

175 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Steffan said:
From the comments I have seen in various news items it would seem that there are now parts of the UK where Sharia Law is being applied throughout the areas concerned.
You are wrong. That isn't happening.

Steffan said:
I am interested to see the views of others.
You're a bit of an idiot.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Fiction.

Next question.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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There's no zones in London, but there are around 80 ( i think ) Sharia civil courts which are free to pretty much avoid any equalities that have been built up in this country and openly discriminate against women.

Muntu

7,635 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Fiction.

Next question.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

256 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Mr_B said:
There's no zones in London, but there are around 80 ( i think ) Sharia civil courts which are free to pretty much avoid any equalities that have been built up in this country and openly discriminate against women.
Although these courts are essentially voluntary, if a woman is being oppressed in her marriage, can she volunteer out of these court rulings? What about one Muslim from another? How, exactly, do they work? There have been Jewish courts for ome time. I think it is a little odd how these things are allowed, to be honest.

Y282

20,566 posts

173 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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not while i have a hole in my fking arse.


carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Muntu said:
Eric Mc said:
Fiction.

Next question.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece
I remember reading that a while ago. Primarily these courts are ways by which UK equality laws can be circumvented and the Islamic oppression of women upheld. They also emphasise that Muslims should not be bound by godless law of the kuffar.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
Although these courts are essentially voluntary, if a woman is being oppressed in her marriage, can she volunteer out of these court rulings? What about one Muslim from another? How, exactly, do they work? There have been Jewish courts for ome time. I think it is a little odd how these things are allowed, to be honest.
If it's voluntary then it has "no power". Of course that isn't the case within these communities, but that's how government rationalises it. Doing anything about it after so long would cause a ststorm.

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

256 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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But that is my point. Would a woman, who is in an oppressive 'strict Sharia' home, would she have the say that would mean it wouldn't count? Are they even heard, and do the Sharia or Hadith notions about women come into play? What is a concern is that these courts have say over domestic violence.