Mugabe on his way out?

[Hudson]

Shame we couldn't have had a tragic incident 20 years ago with a cruise missile veering off course.

Its not like a bunch of rubber dinghys and Toyota hi-luxes are going to cause us any problems anyway.

[Chris Type R]

Pints said:

Pints likes the turn this thread has taken.



I'm just glad that it's not just ex-pats like myself who can see that things have turned out for the worse.
Where are all those who were demonstrating for a "free" South Africa all those years ago outside South Africa House? Apparently discrimination is fine, provided it's not the white man doing it.

It's okay if it's positive discrimination or affirmative action - totally different to the old fashioned racism.

[Mikeyboy]

Chris Type R said:

It's okay if it's positive discrimination or affirmative action - totally different to the old fashioned racism.

The thing is that many of the laws I know of that have been designed to enforce positive discrimination seem very racially or even just politically motivated rather than equality focused.

A friend of mine's father has been forced to take on a number of blacks into his family wine businesses management structure, even though the people he was told to hire for this have no experience in the industry or even come from the local area. So they have been adding nothing to his bottom line and on a couple of occasions have made errors that could have cost him a years production, and to make matters worse, the guys he had been training in the industry have been forcibly overlooked for some outsiders.
He sees that the idea is sound, and if his daughter is anything to go by he hasn't a racist bone in his body but he can't help thinking that if he has to keep to this rule so that he can get a license, even in a family, private business, then wouldn't it be better if he took on local people and trained them up?
this attitude by the ANC is counter-productive to their original ideals, but not unusual for a modern left wing party it has to be said.

[Victor McDade]

Article said:

Robert Mugabe said to be fighting for life in Singapore hospital

ZIMBABWEAN dictator Robert Mugabe was yesterday said to be fighting for his life in a Singapore hospital with an undisclosed illness, amid reports he had agreed to hand over power to his feared Defence Minister Emmerson Mnangagwa.

The Zimbabwe Mail, quoting a senior official of Mugabe's ZANU-PF party, said the President was undergoing intensive treatment in Singapore and that some members of his family had joined him after boarding a chartered private jet on Saturday.

The alarm was raised when the government postponed a cabinet meeting set for today.

Mugabe spokesman George Charamba said in a statement: "The Chief Secretary to the President and Cabinet, Dr Misheck Sibanda, wishes to inform all members of cabinet that sitting has been moved from Tuesday, April 10, to Thursday, April 12, 2012."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/robert-mugabe-said-to-be-fighting-for-life-in-singapore-hospital/story-e6frg6so-1226322291456

[Apache]

[davepoth]

Civil War in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

[Jimbeaux]

So, whoever is next will be equally or more ruthless but loads younger. Oh yea, the future is bright.

[Apache]

Jimbeaux said:

So, whoever is next will be equally or more ruthless but loads younger. Oh yea, the future is bright.

very true I'm afraid, but one evil bd is facing his end and now has time to reflect on all his good works

[powerstroke]

Pints said:

BertieWooster said:

Chris Type R said:

Soon to be replaced by Julius Malema in South Africa ?

That is a scary thought and one that I hope never turns into reality. That guy is a complete nutjob.

Bertie W

Things are as bad as they are in Zimbabwe, yet the international community effectively turn a blind eye. If things got just as bad in SA (rapidly approaching that point already), what makes anybody think things wouldn't turn out just as badly, if not worse.

Fortunatley they havent got much money or a dangerous religion so hopefully they will just fk things up for themselves and not the rest of the world ....

[davepoth]

It'll become an international issue shortly. A number of scores will be settled immediately after his death and various factions try to jump up the pecking order. In the ensuing civil war there will be a big flow of refugees into South Africa, and that has the possibility of causing unrest there too.

[Jim the Sunderer]

Good afternoon, sir...

[thinfourth2]

Jimbeaux said:

So, whoever is next will be equally or more ruthless but loads younger. Oh yea, the future is bright.

It could be worse

they could be white

[Happy82]

thinfourth2 said:

It could be worse

they could be white

Or Gordon Brown

[elster]

davepoth said:

It'll become an international issue shortly. A number of scores will be settled immediately after his death and various factions try to jump up the pecking order. In the ensuing civil war there will be a big flow of refugees into South Africa, and that has the possibility of causing unrest there too.

I can't see there being civil war, Mnangagwa will take over. I imagine there will be quite a few more dead people though under him. He has been running the shots for the past few years anyway, so wont make any difference.

[VxDuncan]

On the surface at least, Zim seems to be getting a lot better. Introduction of the dollar bought stability, and it felt pretty safe to wonder round most places when I was there a couple of years ago (wouldn't say that about jo'berg). Wonder hat the future holds in store - have to think it's a case of better the devil you know. A power struggle s on its way, and it won't be pretty.

[Seti]

[Mr GrimNasty]

Great, get rid of another nutter ruthless dictator, leaving another country ripe for take over by Taliban/Al-Qaeda/Islamic extremists of whatever flavour.

[davepoth]

elster said:

davepoth said:

It'll become an international issue shortly. A number of scores will be settled immediately after his death and various factions try to jump up the pecking order. In the ensuing civil war there will be a big flow of refugees into South Africa, and that has the possibility of causing unrest there too.

I can't see there being civil war, Mnangagwa will take over. I imagine there will be quite a few more dead people though under him. He has been running the shots for the past few years anyway, so wont make any difference.

It happens quite often with a dictatorship - it's only as strong as the leader, no matter how little they actually did towards the running of the country. Mnangagwa is notionally in charge of the army which is good for him, but keeping them onside will be vital. Without Mugabe there someone may go for a power grab.

[ShayneJ]

Good.

As has been said pity it was not 20 years ago.

[elster]

davepoth said:

elster said:

davepoth said:

It'll become an international issue shortly. A number of scores will be settled immediately after his death and various factions try to jump up the pecking order. In the ensuing civil war there will be a big flow of refugees into South Africa, and that has the possibility of causing unrest there too.

I can't see there being civil war, Mnangagwa will take over. I imagine there will be quite a few more dead people though under him. He has been running the shots for the past few years anyway, so wont make any difference.

It happens quite often with a dictatorship - it's only as strong as the leader, no matter how little they actually did towards the running of the country. Mnangagwa is notionally in charge of the army which is good for him, but keeping them onside will be vital. Without Mugabe there someone may go for a power grab.

We'll see, as this guy was the one who was the strong arm of the government and pulled the strings.