Wrongly accused teacher acquitted.

Wrongly accused teacher acquitted.

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Frankeh

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12,558 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/87902...

Social services even had to be present at his own childs birth. What an absolutely absurd situation.
What was he going to do, give it a little molest while no one was looking.

This is why I could never work with kids. It's just not worth the risk of one little scrote going through a bad stint of puberty and deciding to ruin you.

Oakey

27,605 posts

217 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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article said:
The school, which cannot be named for legal reasons
What fking 'legal reasons'? So it's perfectly okay to destroy the reputations of innocent people but the accusers get their identity protected? what a fked up country this is.

Digga

40,399 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I thought this was a thread about The Killing.

getmecoat

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Terrorists accused of being terrorists: Compensation £1m

Bloke accused of being kiddy fiddler and having his life ruined: Compensation: £get the fk out of here.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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i blame the Daily Wail and its readers

miniman

25,061 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Absolutely disgusting. The school should be named (although it can't be terribly hard to figure out which one it is) as should the fkwits in social services, who should also be fired.

Adrian W

13,926 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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He must be able to sue the school, cps and social services,

DamienB

1,189 posts

220 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Oakey said:
What fking 'legal reasons'? So it's perfectly okay to destroy the reputations of innocent people but the accusers get their identity protected? what a fked up country this is.
Google the chap's name and hey presto...

http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=223772...

So the school appears to be this one: http://www.norbreck.blackpool.sch.uk/

Frankeh

Original Poster:

12,558 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Adrian W said:
He must be able to sue the school, cps and social services,
Not being able to see his newborn for the first 8 months of its life? Surely terms to sue under.
That's an important time for bonding and such.

If I was him I'd be claiming I couldn't feel attached/couldn't love to my baby because I felt removed. Bam, compensation out the wazoo.

TheD

3,133 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Oakey said:
What fking 'legal reasons'? So it's perfectly okay to destroy the reputations of innocent people but the accusers get their identity protected? what a fked up country this is.
Really is getting worse

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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6 separate allegations of inappropriate behaviour - not sure what else the school could be expected to do except wash their hands of him until the matter was brought to court. It's the kids who are at fault, not the school.

Do agree though that the actions of social services seem way ott here. It's more vindictive than anything else.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

171 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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"It's more vindictive than anything else"
It's what left wingers do best!

Jasandjules

69,988 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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How old were the kids who made the allegations? If over 10, prosecute them.

Oh, and I hope the chap in question sues the little ba***rds as well, millions of pounds in damages against them (their parents) will stop them (and others) trying such acts in future.

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Victor McDade said:
It's the kids who are at fault, not the school.
And / or the parents. What kind of kids go around saying stuff like that? You have to wonder what's happening in their own homes.

Frankeh

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12,558 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Making him sign an agreement saying he can't see his family seems way way OTT here.
Deserves some kind of compensation, imo. Totally vindictive behaviour.

The accusations didn't even sound that bad. A pat on the arse, a rubbed back, cheek to cheek. It's hardly violent sexual assault, is it.

Certainly not the kind of thing you'd stop someone seeing their newly formed family over.

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Article said:
During the trial, Mr Wilson broke down in the witness box as he denied gaining any sexual gratification from his behaviour, and said that the touching had been completely innocent.
So he did do it. He just didn't get the boner he was hoping for?

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Damned if you investigate take action. Damned if you don't.

He seems to admit the touching but that it wasnt for sexual gratification.

It's a primary school so 11 and under for the ages at a guess.

I'm not sure how many of you deal with or have dealt with children abused sexually. It's very very difficult to gather evidence and prosecutions most often fall before charge.

Whether he will have civil remedy is not always connected to being cleared. Burdens of proof for conviction are rightly high in criminal matters. Beyond all reasonable doubt is a lot of evidence.

Slating social services actions without knowing what information they had to base a decision on is a little unfair.

Frog Dog

30,390 posts

161 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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V8mate said:
Article said:
During the trial, Mr Wilson broke down in the witness box as he denied gaining any sexual gratification from his behaviour, and said that the touching had been completely innocent.
So he did do it. He just didn't get the boner he was hoping for?
I did wonder the same, so he did touch them? Just not in a sexual way? Eh? You either touch/kiss kids or you don't right?




turbobloke

104,135 posts

261 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
Slating social services actions without knowing what information they had to base a decision on is a little unfair.
Not at all.

Their judgement in taking separate Court action to extend police bail conditions effectively removing the wife as a supervisor of her husband, in order to separate the man from his family completely, was wrong-headed and excessive unless they considered the wife and mother of the children to be complicit. There were no charges against the wife and mother. She was and is innocent. Therefore the action was totally unjustified.

On the basis of so may of these incidents that get to Court this is typical of the get-it-wrong-one-way or get-it-wrong-the-other-way outcomes from inept social services. They either do nothing due to incompetence, and a child suffers and possibly dies, or go compeletely berserk more to cover their own ass than anything else and a family are broken up and all members of it suffer needlessly. Competency and sound judgement, both sadly lacking.

Outcomes matter: something the public sector and its process worshipping drones need to get around the drinks machine to discuss. They stuffed up badly (again) and no amount of weasel words changes that.

petemurphy

10,134 posts

184 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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in social services eyes he will still be guilty and on the at risk list - they dont care about the law.

people in sexual crimes should not be named until found guilty. he wont get a penny in compensation just a lifetime of misery.