Gareth Chasmore faces life or death if convicted for drugs
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
unrepentant said:
If you're a local. If you're a Westerner you will get banged up for a long time and then released early at some point after negotiations with your government. They don't execute Westerners for drug trafficking, even if it does say so on your landing card.
Unless of course you are an Australian http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australian_Van_Nguyen_...I know they all smoke green these days, but a few years ago everybody smoked eurorock. Though Heathrow (Deathrow in smugglers parlance) was always a tricky place to get a key or two through, millions of people smoked week in week out. So TONS were getting in. How? How do you think? It doesn't take very much imagination, really, to work it out.
Smuggling dope into places which hate the idea is like patting a scrapyard dog. They really really REALLY don't want their people, especially young people, damaged by drugs. So they will kill you if you try to encourage it.
We should do the same. The drug 'problem' would become very tiny overnight. Or we should at least try it. Worst case scenario is a few hundred dealers/smugglers get wacked. A thousand more MIGHT decide to fill the vacuum, but somehow I just don't really see it.
Smuggling dope into places which hate the idea is like patting a scrapyard dog. They really really REALLY don't want their people, especially young people, damaged by drugs. So they will kill you if you try to encourage it.
We should do the same. The drug 'problem' would become very tiny overnight. Or we should at least try it. Worst case scenario is a few hundred dealers/smugglers get wacked. A thousand more MIGHT decide to fill the vacuum, but somehow I just don't really see it.
That neglexts a couple of key points though:
1) Over half the weed smoked in the UK now is grown right here.
2) Drugs earn massive profit. Wherever there are profits across borders, or demand for a banned product, you will have smugglers.
May as well try and hold back the tide.
Plus, you try linking a shipment of drugs with the person who organised its trafficking. You might pick up a bent customs official, a couple of people who packed it/transported it, but you won't get back to the king pin.
1) Over half the weed smoked in the UK now is grown right here.
2) Drugs earn massive profit. Wherever there are profits across borders, or demand for a banned product, you will have smugglers.
May as well try and hold back the tide.
Plus, you try linking a shipment of drugs with the person who organised its trafficking. You might pick up a bent customs official, a couple of people who packed it/transported it, but you won't get back to the king pin.
It would seem that the UK will benefit from this chap not being here for a while.
With drug use so phenomenally prevalent in the UK we are going to see increasing healthcare and policing costs over the coming decades and without any beneficial tax receipts to fund.
I say just legalise everything in the UK get Glaxo to produce it all properly and sell it over the counter with massive taxes. It'll be cheaper than it currently is and less hazardous to the user and overnight it will remove simply enormous parts of the black economy.
At the same time make it that anyone vending without a license is wiped out.
When I see a scuzzer in their chromed spac wagon I would love the comfort of knowing that they are paying tax just like the rest of us.
I suspect that whether it's legal or not the same people are going to use it or not.
And these muppets that go abroad to act as mules. Let them rot. We have no use for them.
With drug use so phenomenally prevalent in the UK we are going to see increasing healthcare and policing costs over the coming decades and without any beneficial tax receipts to fund.
I say just legalise everything in the UK get Glaxo to produce it all properly and sell it over the counter with massive taxes. It'll be cheaper than it currently is and less hazardous to the user and overnight it will remove simply enormous parts of the black economy.
At the same time make it that anyone vending without a license is wiped out.
When I see a scuzzer in their chromed spac wagon I would love the comfort of knowing that they are paying tax just like the rest of us.
I suspect that whether it's legal or not the same people are going to use it or not.
And these muppets that go abroad to act as mules. Let them rot. We have no use for them.
groak said:
We should do the same. The drug 'problem' would become very tiny overnight.
Because you can't get access to drugs in thailand? LOL.Death penalty does nothing to stop drugs use or dealing.. We're also a civilised society, not f
king barbarians. Legalise it, tax it like mad, jobs a goodun.
DonkeyApple said:
I say just legalise everything in the UK get Glaxo to produce it all properly and sell it over the counter with massive taxes. It'll be cheaper than it currently is and less hazardous to the user and overnight it will remove simply enormous parts of the black economy.
At the same time make it that anyone vending without a license is wiped out.
Yup, been advocating that for years. No government will ever have the balls to do it but it makes perfect sense. You would empty prisons pretty quickly as well as a large proportion of the inmates are there for drug related offences. Take the criminality out of the drugs business and you reduce crime dramatically. Anybody dealing without a licence gets 20 years but the incentive will be gone anyway as the legal stuff will be way cheaper than the gangsta controlled supply.At the same time make it that anyone vending without a license is wiped out.
Your all looking at this from the wrong angle!
There is tens of millions more users than dealers, so give the death penalty to anyone found using !
This will solve the over population problem and in a very short time solve the drug problem as well as the benefit and unemployment problem as well!
Jobs a good un!
There is tens of millions more users than dealers, so give the death penalty to anyone found using !
This will solve the over population problem and in a very short time solve the drug problem as well as the benefit and unemployment problem as well!
Jobs a good un!
robsti said:
Your all looking at this from the wrong angle!
There is tens of millions more users than dealers, so give the death penalty to anyone found using !
This will solve the over population problem and in a very short time solve the drug problem as well as the benefit and unemployment problem as well!
Jobs a good un!
Or legalise it and make the market value of these drugs practially worthless, then let the users overdose and take themselves out of the gene pool thus automatically leaving the dealers with nobody to deal to.There is tens of millions more users than dealers, so give the death penalty to anyone found using !
This will solve the over population problem and in a very short time solve the drug problem as well as the benefit and unemployment problem as well!
Jobs a good un!
Use Psychology said:
banning drugs is like banning toast - who cares what i have for breakfast, it doesn't affect you.
It would affect me if your toast rendered you totally incapable of earning any form of legitimate income, cost you £500 a week and meant you were constantly burgling my neighbours and I to get tomorrows breakfast.Babu 01 said:
Use Psychology said:
banning drugs is like banning toast - who cares what i have for breakfast, it doesn't affect you.
It would affect me if your toast rendered you totally incapable of earning any form of legitimate income, cost you £500 a week and meant you were constantly burgling my neighbours and I to get tomorrows breakfast.But "Wont somebody think of the children!"
freecar said:
Babu 01 said:
Use Psychology said:
banning drugs is like banning toast - who cares what i have for breakfast, it doesn't affect you.
It would affect me if your toast rendered you totally incapable of earning any form of legitimate income, cost you £500 a week and meant you were constantly burgling my neighbours and I to get tomorrows breakfast.But "Wont somebody think of the children!"
Use Psychology said:
banning drugs is like banning toast - who cares what i have for breakfast, it doesn't affect you.
Have a read of the Mexican Gangsters thread and then pretend that drug use doesn't harm anyone. Kids get shot and stabbed in London over Cannabis supply.The paradox comes from the fact that attempting to prohibit drugs leads the production, traffiking and supply of drugs into the hands of ruthless and violent criminals.
But don't go pretending that what you choose to ingest starts and ends with you. It affects entire nations.
Babu 01 said:
It would affect me if your toast rendered you totally incapable of earning any form of legitimate income, cost you £500 a week and meant you were constantly burgling my neighbours and I to get tomorrows breakfast.
The first sign of cocaine use is often an increase in productivity. I know people who take it who take it yet still do a phenomenal job.It doesn't lead you to beat up your wife, burn your children with an iron, or fight strangers in the street either, unlike the nation's favorite legal high.
In fact, it's hard to see what the problem would be if the supply chain was legal and regulated.
Use Psychology said:
every single argument against drugs that has been put forward here cites problems caused by the illegal trade in substances... the solution is clear, then.
So clear that no-one in power dares mention it.I have no problem with 'drugs' as such, but with the situation as it is you can't argue that drugs do no harm and it's no-ones business but the users what they use.
If you seek to buy clothes that haven't been stitched by children, bananas that haven't been picked by slaves, and diamonds that havn't lead to misery and death, them you should either avoid drugs or seek to change the status quo IMO.
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