Gareth Chasmore faces life or death if convicted for drugs

[DonkeyApple]

WeirdNeville said:

o clear that no-one in power dares mention it.

I have no problem with 'drugs' as such, but with the situation as it is you can't argue that drugs do no harm and it's no-ones business but the users what they use.
If you seek to buy clothes that haven't been stitched by children, bananas that haven't been picked by slaves, and diamonds that havn't lead to misery and death, them you should either avoid drugs or seek to change the status quo IMO.

Certainly drugs do do harm when you look at the overall picture.

However, with legal drugs we have the tax reciepts to tidy any resulting mess up.

For me it boils down to whether we accept 2 plausible beliefs:

1. Illegal drug use is so prevalent and ingrained in society that their use is not impacted whether they are legal or illegal.

2. Addicts are addicts. It doesn't matter what the drug is, some people are pre disposed to being addicts.

If this is the case then legalise and regulate and tax the lot. Make it boring and bland. Let those who want to use be free to use. Utilise the tax receipts to help those who become ill, like we do with ciggies and alcohol.

Some other laws would need to change alongside this to protect employers from people who chose to become unproductive through excessive use etc etc.

Personally, I don't think there would be any increase in usage, social stigmas would still remain.

The only problem I see is that you would, overnight, terminate the income of a large group of our society. The bottom end would still earn a taxed income as licensed deliverers but those at the top end would see all margins go.

All in, I cannot see why we don't just do it and be done with it and stop lining the pockets of tax evading, welfare stealing scum.

[Use Psychology]

it would also open up the interesting prospect of new recreational drugs being developed professionally by big pharma, fewer side effects, guaranteed efficacy, pure and safe.

[robsti]

It's not the people selling it that's the problem,it's the people taking it that needs to be eradicated!

No customers no business no more problem!

Prohibition didn't work and legalising and taxing alcohol hasn't solved the problem so why would making drugs more accessible work?

I know that this is unworkable but just think we could also solve our fuelling of power stations and get cheap electricity by burning the druggies !

[Mr_annie_vxr]

NorthernBoy said:

The first sign of cocaine use is often an increase in productivity. I know people who take it who take it yet still do a phenomenal job.

It doesn't lead you to beat up your wife, burn your children with an iron, or fight strangers in the street either, unlike the nation's favorite legal high.

In fact, it's hard to see what the problem would be if the supply chain was legal and regulated.

That seems at odds with what I've cleaned up.

[singlecoil]

Every time the subject of drugs comes up, the subject of legalisation comes up. The situation as it stands burings with it many problems, and some people feel that legalisation would also bring problems, and those problems would be worse than the current ones.

I'd have to say that I disagree with the latter, and that legalisation has got to be worth a try at least, it's the lesser of the two weevils.

[Use Psychology]

at the very least, it's clear the current policy consumes enormous resources and doesn't work, so it is only sensible to try something else.

maybe scotland or wales could legalise drugs, boost tourism, etc.

[dirkgently]

From what I have seen on road wars ect, if drugs were legalised we could do away two-thirds of the police force.

[WeirdNeville]

dirkgently said:

From what I have seen on road wars ect, if drugs were legalised we could do away two-thirds of the police force.

No, we could just do more useful things. Like persecute motorists.

[Mobsta]

Apparently a 14 year old Australian boy was caught with a bit of weed in Bali this week, and could face 12 years in adult prison, since there is no juvenile court system over in Indonesia...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/fou...

http://m.smh.com.au/national/14yearold-boy-arreste...

[robsti]

Mobsta said:

Apparently a 14 year old Australian boy was caught with a bit of weed in Bali this week, and could face 12 years in adult prison, since there is no juvenile court system over in Indonesia...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/fou...

http://m.smh.com.au/national/14yearold-boy-arreste...

Bet he doesn't feel so smart now!

[HundredthIdiot]

robsti said:

Bet he doesn't feel so smart now!

How is that funny?

[DonkeyApple]

robsti said:

Mobsta said:

Apparently a 14 year old Australian boy was caught with a bit of weed in Bali this week, and could face 12 years in adult prison, since there is no juvenile court system over in Indonesia...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/fou...

http://m.smh.com.au/national/14yearold-boy-arreste...

Bet he doesn't feel so smart now!

A source said it was alleged that the boy bought the marijuana when he was on his way to get a massage in Kuta and that he has told police during interrogations that the dealer approached him and asked him to buy the drug, saying that he hadn’t eaten for a day and needed money.

It is understood he said he paid 250,000 Rupiah for the marijuana or about $25.

After he had finished at his massage, it is understood the boy was then arrested by police on Tuesday afternoon.

Well, that massage is going to be the last time it was a woman working his prong for quite a while. I'm sure he is going to be a very popular recreational persuit.

[singlecoil]

HundredthIdiot said:

robsti said:

Bet he doesn't feel so smart now!

How is that funny?

Yes, I can't see why that is funny either.

[AJS-]

The trouble with legalising drugs in one country is that it would attract every scum bag in the world to move to that country. Holland already found this, and as I understand it are now going the other way.

[Mobsta]

singlecoil said:

HundredthIdiot said:

robsti said:

Bet he doesn't feel so smart now!

How is that funny?

Yes, I can't see why that is funny either.

Nor can I. Chap is locked in a cell, undoubtedly with many other grown males, reportedly crying and very shaken.

The tales from those cells as told by sometimes hardened grown men are enough to make you cringe...

The only positive aspect of the tale being the media coverage, a warning to other youngsters.

He'd have been smarter to have traded in his cow holiday moped for some magic beans.

[robsti]

Mobsta said:

singlecoil said:

HundredthIdiot said:

robsti said:

Bet he doesn't feel so smart now!

How is that funny?

Yes, I can't see why that is funny either.

Nor can I. Chap is locked in a cell, undoubtedly with many other grown males, reportedly crying and very shaken.

The tales from those cells as told by sometimes hardened grown men are enough to make you cringe...

The only positive aspect of the tale being the media coverage, a warning to other youngsters.

He'd have been smarter to have traded in his cow holiday moped for some magic beans.

Let's all feel sorry for the druggie!

[WeirdNeville]

Obvious troll is obvious.

He's a 14 year old who bought drugs.

Were you never a child?

[robsti]

WeirdNeville said:

Obvious troll is obvious.

He's a 14 year old who bought drugs.

Were you never a child?

Who was getting a "massage " after scoring some drugs !

I was a child once but was doing child like things at 14! Not using hookers and drugs!!!!

[Bing o]

WeirdNeville said:

Obvious troll is obvious.

He's a 14 year old who bought drugs.

Were you never a child?

I know English people won't get this, but in civilised countries, it is not normal for 14 year olds to buy drugs.

[V100]

Bing o said:

I know English people won't get this, but in civilised countries, it is not normal for 14 year olds to buy drugs.

Do us a favour and get off your high horse.