Buy British: our salvation?

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Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Dr Jekyll said:
Miguel Alvarez said:
For my comments earlier I think it's a good idea to buy British where possible. Some things I can't see it happening for various reasons but as a whole it's always going to be a good idea.
Why though?
I'm not a negative person although this may come across that way. Certain products I wouldn't buy British for various reasons. Thinking about it now its not an anti British stance at all more some companies just have strong products that I'm very satisfied with and they happen to not be British.

Technics 1210/1200. The ultimate turntable for djing. Industry standard. If a club has turntables for djs then they are going to be Technics. Indestructible. I bought my first pair when I was 16 and a few rca cable changes they are still going strong 16 years later. I have some British equipment in studio but I can't see anytime in the future me replacing these with anything else from another manufacturer. If I was still djing and needed a replacement I'd buy them again no question and I've used a shed load of different kit over the years.

Certain foods as said before. We don't grow tea, mangoes, bananas, avocado, rice etc as a rule in this country. It's never been our forte.

I'm currently buying my first place and for the stuff like sofa's and tables I'd like to buy British so if anyone can suggest any British companys that make beds, sofas, tables etc then I'm all ears.




anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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While supporting local cottage industry and smallholdings is very admirable, I do it too, I have the feeling that is a drop in the ocean though. If I buy meat from a supermarket there is a chance it is from this country anyway and I am still supporting a British checkout operator, shelf stacker, warehouse manager, lorry driver etc in the process. We need to be focussing on buying British manufactured products instead of foreign. You see the logistics, distribution and sales network is already here, we create the extra wealth by adding the manufacture too. By that I mean products of a value of £x00 or £x000, big considerations, big impact, cars, furniture, AV electrical goods, white goods, boilers. Think along the lines of VW, Miele, Vaillant, Kaldewei, Gessi. All these brands are manufactured with success in Europe and of a decent quality, not too 'premium' either. A great deal of German manufacturers pride themselves on what their plants provide to the local economies and quite a few still have a strong founding family presence in control. Many of our own competing quality manufacturers got too complacent in my opinion, fell behind with their marketing strategies, outsourced to abroad to cut costs and inevitably lost their quality or got bought out by foreign masters who didn't care if the manufacturing base was here or abroad. We've allowed globalisation to screw us instead of benefiting from it. The Germans can do it, the Italians can do it, the Japs can do it and so can we!
Am ranting now! Sorry.

oyster

12,608 posts

249 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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tonym911 said:
If the supermarkets would create a 'British made/grown/reared' aisle, I would do as much of our shopping there as possible. And I don't believe I'd be on my own.
Which supermarkets are you shopping in?

The Sainsbury's and Waitrose near me are very clear with where produce and meat/poultry come from. Union flags tend to adorn British products.

oyster

12,608 posts

249 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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tonym911 said:
How about reducing VAT on British-made goods sold here to say 10%? Or is that illegal under EC protectionism rules? grumpy
What happens to our exporters then other countries do likewise?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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You are right. The British public can probably make more of a difference by growing a set of balls and some scruples than artificial and short term tariff measures implemented by government. Foreign governments can impose counter measures against the actions of our government, what can they do if the public (and British business) simply shift their buying habits? Perhaps the government can look at what legislation is hindering our productivity and tweak accordingly. This is the chance of the public to lead and government to listen!

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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i haven't got time to trawl through 10 pages, but has anyone mentioned that we need to get rid of the minimum wage if we want to restart mass manufacturing in this country.

successive governments have priced us out of having a viable manufacturing base of low cost items via too generous payments to the jobless and making even the most basic of jobs (pushing a broom round a workshop for example) worth more than £12k per year, madness

We have a ready made workforce sat at home on £60/week, that's £1.57/hr. Kill JSA and let them make trainers and clothes for matalan!!!!!!

EINSIGN

5,494 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Miguel Alvarez said:
Technics 1210/1200. The ultimate turntable for djing. Industry standard. If a club has turntables for djs then they are going to be Technics. Indestructible. I bought my first pair when I was 16 and a few rca cable changes they are still going strong 16 years later. I have some British equipment in studio but I can't see anytime in the future me replacing these with anything else from another manufacturer. If I was still djing and needed a replacement I'd buy them again no question and I've used a shed load of different kit over the years.
Then you have inside knowledge on a good product range due to your experience, now how could you turn that into a new business manufacturing BETTER turntables under your control in the UK?

Miguel Alvarez said:
Certain foods as said before. We don't grow tea, mangoes, bananas, avocado, rice etc as a rule in this country. It's never been our forte.
Possibly due to our climate, which apparently has been around for some time in the UK.

Miguel Alvarez said:
I'm currently buying my first place and for the stuff like sofa's and tables I'd like to buy British so if anyone can suggest any British companys that make beds, sofas, tables etc then I'm all ears.
We make bespoke items like this in the UK.

onyx39

11,125 posts

151 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Miguel Alvarez said:


I'm currently buying my first place and for the stuff like sofa's and tables I'd like to buy British so if anyone can suggest any British companys that make beds, sofas, tables etc then I'm all ears.
DFS?

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marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Miguel Alvarez said:


I'm currently buying my first place and for the stuff like sofa's and tables I'd like to buy British so if anyone can suggest any British companys that make beds, sofas, tables etc then I'm all ears.
http://www.davidlinley.com/

(well, it is PH and his cousin used to own a Scimitar)

Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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marshalla said:
Miguel Alvarez said:


I'm currently buying my first place and for the stuff like sofa's and tables I'd like to buy British so if anyone can suggest any British companys that make beds, sofas, tables etc then I'm all ears.
http://www.davidlinley.com/

(well, it is PH and his cousin used to own a Scimitar)
Very nice but a bit out of my league when I've got to buy beds and other stuff. Ironically google through a thread in the homes and gardens section which had someone suggest www.sofasofa.co.uk they seemed reasonable price wise and had something exactly in the style I want but they're in Wales.

Cheers for the suggestions guys.

As for DFS I assumed they were manufactured elsewhere possibly assembled in this country just before delivery. They weren't top of my consideration list so lads lads please put the cans of redbull down. Lol.


hollydog

1,108 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Dfs have a big selection of suits . Ther own make are made in long eaton .Long eaton is where all the top hand made suits are made .A lot of the leather suits are now made in china .Middle of the rd quaulty suits are made in wales . Most fabrics come from belgium.

scenario8

6,565 posts

180 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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hollydog said:
Dfs have a big selection of suits . Ther own make are made in long eaton .Long eaton is where all the top hand made suits are made .A lot of the leather suits are now made in china .Middle of the rd quaulty suits are made in wales . Most fabrics come from belgium.
Jermyn Street would be good for shirts and ties, too.

Trommel

19,133 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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scenario8 said:
Jermyn Street would be good for shirts and ties, too.
... not many of which are made in the UK.

scenario8

6,565 posts

180 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Trommel said:
... not many of which are made in the UK.
Yes, I know. I was being politely silly in response to the incorrect spelling of the word "suite" in the reply above

tonym911

Original Poster:

16,544 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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I find leather suits very difficult to iron.

Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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tonym911 said:
I find leather suits very difficult to iron.
But the ladies love them.

onyx39

11,125 posts

151 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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scenario8 said:
hollydog said:
Dfs have a big selection of suits . Ther own make are made in long eaton .Long eaton is where all the top hand made suits are made .A lot of the leather suits are now made in china .Middle of the rd quaulty suits are made in wales . Most fabrics come from belgium.
Jermyn Street would be good for shirts and ties, too.
I used to work in the freight business and had a client in Jermyn Street that exported British fabric to Pakistan to be made into shirts.


oyster

12,608 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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scenario8 said:
hollydog said:
Dfs have a big selection of suits . Ther own make are made in long eaton .Long eaton is where all the top hand made suits are made .A lot of the leather suits are now made in china .Middle of the rd quaulty suits are made in wales . Most fabrics come from belgium.
Jermyn Street would be good for shirts and ties, too.
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