Borders chief quits saying
Discussion
ExChrispy Porker said:
Slightly O/T
I recently travelled by train from London to Malmo in Sweden.
No-one checked my passport at all after leaving London. via France, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, and Sweden.
Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about really.
Absolutely, whilst your journey was recorded, it is just near impossible to operate a 100% secured border. Checks at UK borders have always been based on profile, intelligence and risk factors, the same that is the envey of the rest of europe.I recently travelled by train from London to Malmo in Sweden.
No-one checked my passport at all after leaving London. via France, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, and Sweden.
Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about really.
Corsair7 said:
paddyhasneeds said:
Well, having seen highlights of Clark, his boss, and what I've seen of May, I know who I find the most plausible so far, and it's Clark.
Clark seems to have shot himself in the head with his own admissions.Riff Raff said:
Are you referring to the interview on the Today programme this morning? It was painful to hear the man squirm under questioning from my least favourite programme presenter......
yes, although I've only read about it, not heard it.BBC said:
He told the programme he expected ministers would have been aware that guidelines drawn up in 2007 allowed the relaxation of some checks for health and safety reasons when queues were becoming dangerously long.
Who on earth decides when a queue has become 'dangerously long'? I cant remember hearing about people starving to death whilst queueing, or even causing riots. A few mumbling and whinging tired passengers doesnt make it 'dangerous'....Most senior person on duty - so probably a UBKA manager
I guess a number of factors will decide whetehr things are becoming 'dangerous' and I think their definition or sue of the word dangerous doesnt mean dangerous in the true sense.
They are probably reffering to things like
- queue is very long and is taking hours
- people are beoming imaptient and aggresive
- it is very hot or very cold which is adding to peoples stress.
- the queues are so long the hall is overcrowding
- the hall is so full up they are runnign out of spaces for recent arrivals
the bottom line is when the queues get very very long they are likely to reduce checks to get things moving quicker.
I guess a number of factors will decide whetehr things are becoming 'dangerous' and I think their definition or sue of the word dangerous doesnt mean dangerous in the true sense.
They are probably reffering to things like
- queue is very long and is taking hours
- people are beoming imaptient and aggresive
- it is very hot or very cold which is adding to peoples stress.
- the queues are so long the hall is overcrowding
- the hall is so full up they are runnign out of spaces for recent arrivals
the bottom line is when the queues get very very long they are likely to reduce checks to get things moving quicker.
All this resigning isn't helping. There was obviously a lack of communication. Clark working to rules pre: ConLib/May, May not having her people get all the data. I'm not trying to defend May here, but this could have been anyone.
In reality though, the people May will have been relying on to get all the data/brief her are probably the same people her predecessor was working with in Whitehall? Maybe they should have pressed to her more fully? especially with ConLib's new 'fix immigration' strategy?
In reality though, the people May will have been relying on to get all the data/brief her are probably the same people her predecessor was working with in Whitehall? Maybe they should have pressed to her more fully? especially with ConLib's new 'fix immigration' strategy?
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