CMD talks tough on Europe

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AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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frosted said:
Errr...... We actually need Europe more than they need us ,of course trade doesn't matter , only immigrants do
Well fortunately neither Britain nor Europe are about to go anywhere. If however, you are referring to the EU and saying we need to be in it, then I would simply ask why?

Trade and immigration can and do happen outside of the EU.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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don4l said:
jules_s said:
Wow

Not a single good word said about CMD

Is this PH?
Is CMD a Conservative?

Don
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No CMD is not a conservative He is a career politican its the same as Fred goodwin was a banker, he makes the right noises but just a self serving parasite
that is sucking the life out of the host party....

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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don4l said:
jules_s said:
Wow

Not a single good word said about CMD

Is this PH?
Is CMD a Conservative?

Don
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Quite so, policies matter not people. Regardless of TV debates and the rest which are attempting to lower the common denominator even further.

A here today, gone tomorrow, self-serving and out of touch politician is just that, and hopefully gone tomorrow but not likely.

TankRizzo

7,275 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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jules_s said:
Wow

Not a single good word said about CMD

Is this PH?
He screwed the pooch when he whipped his MPs to vote against a referendum, to be honest. I think that's done more damage to the Tories than they realise at the moment.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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TankRizzo said:
jules_s said:
Wow

Not a single good word said about CMD

Is this PH?
He screwed the pooch when he whipped his MPs to vote against a referendum, to be honest. I think that's done more damage to the Tories than they realise at the moment.
Its not like everyone on here voted Tory to bring in a new kind of politics

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
TankRizzo said:
jules_s said:
Wow

Not a single good word said about CMD

Is this PH?
He screwed the pooch when he whipped his MPs to vote against a referendum, to be honest. I think that's done more damage to the Tories than they realise at the moment.
Its not like everyone on here voted Tory to bring in a new kind of politics
Well spotted. It's likely you just highlighted the least reason why anybody voted Tory.

A new kind of politics is unlikely to happen with the nature of modern politics as it is, all there remains to do is vote for the least worst, least incompetent, least costly.

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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The Boy George was talking tough too.

“Europe certainly shouldn’t be creating new burdens,” Mr Osborne wrote yesterday. “Proposals for a Europe-only Financial Transactions Tax are a bullet aimed at the heart of London. Even the European Commission admit that it would cost hundreds of thousands of jobs.” Brussels chiefs proposed the tax to raise more cash for euro bailout funds.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/283754/Tax-bul...

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

219 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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sjn2004 said:
I always wondered what this CMD thing was, now I know

Can't
Make a
Decision
Cameron
(of)
Mass
Delusion

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

180 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Cameron is a pro-EU placeman, and i believe not one word of it.

oyster

12,608 posts

249 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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powerstroke said:
foreverdriving said:
David Cameron said:
Blah blah blah blah
Well, let's have a referendum then Dave.
that aint going to happen untill they the torys oust him the tt is Ted Heath mk2
...shoot
Which bit of wither the Tory manifesto or the Coalition agreement said anything about a referendum on the EU?

We live in a democracy, vote UKIP next election. If UKIP can't win at least more than a few % of the vote then getting out of the EU isn't really that important to the vast majority of normal folk in this country.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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turbobloke said:
A new kind of politics is unlikely to happen with the nature of modern politics as it is, all there remains to do is vote for the least worst, least incompetent, least costly.
Vote tory we're st but we aren't as st as labour

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Vote tory we're st but we aren't as st as labour
Not as st meaning not as incompetent, not as expensive, and to a lot of people, not as annoying and with fewer harridans. Every little helps.

TankRizzo

7,275 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Vote tory we're st but we aren't as st as labour
That is, essentially, how the General Election went.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

180 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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oyster said:
We live in a democracy
You think?

crofty1984

15,871 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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foreverdriving said:
David Cameron said:
Blah blah blah blah
Well, let's have a referendum then Dave.
David Cameron said:
You're not getting a referendum as long as I've got a hole in my arse, son.

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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At least one Conservative politician has the balls to say (or gesture) what she really thinks, even if it's an 89 year old life peer.



After the fact it was an accidental gesture and she can't remember doing it.

Sure wink

oyster

12,608 posts

249 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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pilchardthecat said:
oyster said:
We live in a democracy
You think?
We only had an election last year.
One well-publicised party stood for election on a platform to withdraw from the EU. Very few people voted for them.

That is democracy.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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oyster said:
We only had an election last year.
One well-publicised party stood for election on a platform to withdraw from the EU. Very few people voted for them.

That is democracy.
BUT BUT BUT

If you don't vote {insert tie colour A} then {insert tie colour B} will get in and you know how bad it would be if {insert tie colour B} got in.

So you must vote {insert tie colour A} despite the fact you know they are lying arses

PRTVR

7,112 posts

222 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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turbobloke said:
Well spotted. It's likely you just highlighted the least reason why anybody voted Tory.

A new kind of politics is unlikely to happen with the nature of modern politics as it is, all there remains to do is vote for the least worst, least incompetent, least costly.
yes Douglas Adams explains Democracy very well.
http://wso.williams.edu/~rcarson/lizards.html

eharding

13,733 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
BUT BUT BUT

If you don't vote {insert tie colour A} then {insert tie colour B} will get in and you know how bad it would be if {insert tie colour B} got in.

So you must vote {insert tie colour A} despite the fact you know they are lying arses
The essence of first-past-the-post parliamentary democracy.

You might prefer some flavour of proportional representation at Westminster, but the referendum we had back in May of this year kicked that firmly into touch, probably for another generation - so tough titty.