Greeks not paying for toll roads now.
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rs1952 said:
If you really want to, you can go from say, Ealing Broadway to Epping and back for 8 quid in this country 
Just don't catch a main line train anywhere in the UK and you should be all right financially
Going from London Victoria (mainline)to Polegate (Nr Eastbourne) on Friday £5. Then returning on Monday off peak another £5 (tickets bought on trainline.com). Just don't catch a main line train anywhere in the UK and you should be all right financially
dmulally said:
tonyvid said:
That's a great idea....everytime I sit in that queue for 40mins(a queue only there because of the toll) it is that thought that keeps me warm!
Do you guys not have electronic tags over there?eharding said:
dmulally said:
tonyvid said:
That's a great idea....everytime I sit in that queue for 40mins(a queue only there because of the toll) it is that thought that keeps me warm!
Do you guys not have electronic tags over there?hornet said:
Walk?
Yeeesss, I wasn't suggesting I would take the Tube for one stop, merely pointing out the peculiar pricing structure of what is meant to be a mass transportation system. Boris's bikes are the exact opposite, free for quick/short lends and ludicrously expensive if you want to hang onto the same bike for a day. tonym911 said:
Yeeesss, I wasn't suggesting I would take the Tube for one stop, merely pointing out the peculiar pricing structure of what is meant to be a mass transportation system. Boris's bikes are the exact opposite, free for quick/short lends and ludicrously expensive if you want to hang onto the same bike for a day.
Both systems are specifically designed to either milk or screw tourists and not commuters. In essence, whether someone travels 10 stops or 1 the actual cost of processing that customer is static so there is a floor. But in reality the only groups who travel one stop only in London tend to be the tourists so they are made to pay.
Likewise the don't want tourists taking a Boris bike all day or someone keeping it at the office so the system screws anyone who does.
Tallbut Buxomly said:
tonyvid said:
That's a great idea....everytime I sit in that queue for 40mins(a queue only there because of the toll) it is that thought that keeps me warm!
You are aware that the barrier at dartford just pops out and is made of very soft materials right?? So pathetic in fact that i have driven through it once by mistake iirc and a second time it came down on a trailer load of rowing boats i was towing and simply popped off its mounting and dint even mark the boats.
ds as traffic flowed freely for a day?I wonder how much this is Greece trying to take back what it thinks it is owed by Germany.
Reading a couple of interviews with old Greek people, the memory of what Germany did to them in WW2, and the fact they haven't paid any reparations (so they say) is still a matter of great resentment.
It is ironic that the "loser" of the Second World War is now the most powerful, economically, if not politically, in Europe - and the lowly Greeks clearly cannot stand that.
Personally I just feel that is just an excuse, and there is a bit of a pattern here - large scale culturally acceptable tax evasion - which (all in my opinion) seems to map neatly to the letters P,I,I,G,S.
Reading a couple of interviews with old Greek people, the memory of what Germany did to them in WW2, and the fact they haven't paid any reparations (so they say) is still a matter of great resentment.
It is ironic that the "loser" of the Second World War is now the most powerful, economically, if not politically, in Europe - and the lowly Greeks clearly cannot stand that.
Personally I just feel that is just an excuse, and there is a bit of a pattern here - large scale culturally acceptable tax evasion - which (all in my opinion) seems to map neatly to the letters P,I,I,G,S.
DonkeyApple said:
tonym911 said:
Yeeesss, I wasn't suggesting I would take the Tube for one stop, merely pointing out the peculiar pricing structure of what is meant to be a mass transportation system. Boris's bikes are the exact opposite, free for quick/short lends and ludicrously expensive if you want to hang onto the same bike for a day.
Both systems are specifically designed to either milk or screw tourists and not commuters. In essence, whether someone travels 10 stops or 1 the actual cost of processing that customer is static so there is a floor. But in reality the only groups who travel one stop only in London tend to be the tourists so they are made to pay.
Likewise the don't want tourists taking a Boris bike all day or someone keeping it at the office so the system screws anyone who does.
williamp said:
Dave_ST220 said:
nelly1 said:
Ha! Can you imagine that at the Dartford crossing?
Was that the bridge that was supposed to be toll until it was paid for?tonym911 said:
DonkeyApple said:
tonym911 said:
Yeeesss, I wasn't suggesting I would take the Tube for one stop, merely pointing out the peculiar pricing structure of what is meant to be a mass transportation system. Boris's bikes are the exact opposite, free for quick/short lends and ludicrously expensive if you want to hang onto the same bike for a day.
Both systems are specifically designed to either milk or screw tourists and not commuters. In essence, whether someone travels 10 stops or 1 the actual cost of processing that customer is static so there is a floor. But in reality the only groups who travel one stop only in London tend to be the tourists so they are made to pay.
Likewise the don't want tourists taking a Boris bike all day or someone keeping it at the office so the system screws anyone who does.
The Tube policy of really screwing anyone who doesn't use an Oyster is good as it forces all regular users to switch to a system which doesn't require ticket personal etc and speeds up processing while milking visitors etc.
SpeedMattersNot said:
Yes and the current government are proposing a further price hike, before the end of the year.
I would love to have stloads of cash millions in fact (for lawyers). I would then use the dartford toll as I do now except I would never pay I would simply drive through and pop the barrier. Then when they eventually get tired of me driving through and take me to court or arrest me I will do everything I can to get national and international press coverage even buying ads in national and international papers and Tv.
Show them for what they are and see if I can embarrass them into a climbdown.
SpeedMattersNot said:
williamp said:
Dave_ST220 said:
nelly1 said:
Ha! Can you imagine that at the Dartford crossing?
Was that the bridge that was supposed to be toll until it was paid for?dmulally said:
SpeedMattersNot said:
williamp said:
Dave_ST220 said:
nelly1 said:
Ha! Can you imagine that at the Dartford crossing?
Was that the bridge that was supposed to be toll until it was paid for?It's quite obvious, they're having to charge more now, because the last government allowed free night-passing. Apparently the BBC covered the story and blamed it all on Thatcher for closing the coal-mines.....
SpeedMattersNot said:
You don't belong on this forum.
It's quite obvious, they're having to charge more now, because the last government allowed free night-passing. Apparently the BBC covered the story and blamed it all on Thatcher for closing the coal-mines.....
I get all my pommy political news from this site. So, in summary you guys hated the last mob in charge marginally more than you hate the mob currently running the show. It's quite obvious, they're having to charge more now, because the last government allowed free night-passing. Apparently the BBC covered the story and blamed it all on Thatcher for closing the coal-mines.....
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