Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
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A good example of the bias yesterday, aimed at younger voters.
I had the misfortune to listen to Newsbeat from around 17:50 to 18:00 yesterday, main article about elections and giving the typical labour and conservative voters views and the presenter mentioned tuition fees a few times to prompt the debate. All seemed OK then they ended the news section with a soundbite piece about the current government increasing insurance premium tax from 10 to 12% and interviewed two people who's premiums had gone from £1,500 to £2,000 and £500 to £800 - no context of accidents, cars or anything but just this was due to the 2% tax increase. They just seemed to want to end the piece with a bit of a poke at the current government - on a point that would clearly resonate with younger voters who listen to that crap in the first place.
I had the misfortune to listen to Newsbeat from around 17:50 to 18:00 yesterday, main article about elections and giving the typical labour and conservative voters views and the presenter mentioned tuition fees a few times to prompt the debate. All seemed OK then they ended the news section with a soundbite piece about the current government increasing insurance premium tax from 10 to 12% and interviewed two people who's premiums had gone from £1,500 to £2,000 and £500 to £800 - no context of accidents, cars or anything but just this was due to the 2% tax increase. They just seemed to want to end the piece with a bit of a poke at the current government - on a point that would clearly resonate with younger voters who listen to that crap in the first place.
alanwul said:
So, what is being said here is that the BBC are pro Labour.
Which equates to:
The BBC are pro Corbyn and want him to become the next Prime Minister
My friends and colleagues are split; half seem to think that the BBC are supportive of the government. The other half think they're supportive of labour.Which equates to:
The BBC are pro Corbyn and want him to become the next Prime Minister
The truth is that there is some bias in reporting at points, but that bias varies from reporter to reporter, article to article. From what I've seen the BBC are relatively unbiased, but then I'm one of those undecided voters (I dislike the 2 main parties and the lib dems in equal measure).
alanwul said:
So, what is being said here is that the BBC are pro Labour.
The BBC are very much pro-liberal left.This has been admitted by the BBC themselves.
So as the original thread title suggests, "something has to be done surely"...... otherwise every time someone states that the BBC is impartial is basically making themselves look like a fool.
And then it makes a fool of those that believe the BBC is impartial.
Atomic12C said:
alanwul said:
So, what is being said here is that the BBC are pro Labour.
The BBC are very much pro-liberal left.This has been admitted by the BBC themselves.
So as the original thread title suggests, "something has to be done surely"...... otherwise every time someone states that the BBC is impartial is basically making themselves look like a fool.
And then it makes a fool of those that believe the BBC is impartial.
TTwiggy said:
Has it? Are they on record saying 'we are very much pro-liberal left'?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10158679/BBC-has-deep-liberal-bias-executive-admits.htmlCorrect me if I'm wrong, but I think there was a discussion earlier in this thread that also pointed out that the likely candidate(s) that would be employed within the BBC would have liberal left political viewpoints.
Edited by Atomic12C on Friday 2nd June 11:42
Atomic12C said:
TTwiggy said:
Has it? Are they on record saying 'we are very much pro-liberal left'?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10158679/BBC-has-deep-liberal-bias-executive-admits.htmlCorrect me if I'm wrong, but I think there was a discussion earlier in this thread that also pointed out that the likely candidate(s) that would be employed within the BBC would have liberal left political viewpoints.
Edited by Atomic12C on Friday 2nd June 11:42
And as to the idea that they were ignoring UKIP - presumably this is the same UKIP who have appeared on roughly 1 in 4 Question Time panels since 2010?
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I can't say it felt balanced watching the audience reactions last night.
That's not to say I smell conspiracy, I genuinely don't know, but plain old common sense suggests, to me at least, that the audience reaction didn't seem at all indicative of how the country voted only a year or so back.
Depends - you've got 5 left wing parties and 2 right wing parties. But the country voting as a whole, you only get to hear of who came first. More people voted for someone other than the Conservatives (or didn't vote at all) That's not to say I smell conspiracy, I genuinely don't know, but plain old common sense suggests, to me at least, that the audience reaction didn't seem at all indicative of how the country voted only a year or so back.
However I didn't actually watch the debates, I don't think I need to watch a 2 hour argument to decide which party I dislike the least...
alanwul said:
So, what is being said here is that the BBC are pro Labour.
Which equates to:
The BBC are pro Corbyn and want him to become the next Prime Minister
It isn't as simple as that.Which equates to:
The BBC are pro Corbyn and want him to become the next Prime Minister
There is a consensus within the BBC due to the type of people who get recruited.
They generally tend to believe that business is bad, profit is exploitation, free markets are bad, cars are bad and anyone interested in cars is a moron, EU is beyond criticism and anyone sceptical is an insane racist, Tories are inherently wicked etc etc.
So although they may try to be even handed, their view of the 'middle' is a bit skewed.
Corbyn is a bit left even for them, but now they reckon he has a chance of getting in they feel a moral duty to assist him in undermining the Conservatives.
Incidentally they give UKIP a regular hearing because they are closest to the BBC stereotype of a 'typical' brexiter. They regard Daniel Hannan, Doug Carswell or anyone who can make a decent case as non representative compared with Farage or Nuttall.
TTwiggy said:
Are you privy to the BBC's recruitment processes? Have you met many of the staff?
Recruitment processes by their nature are not private. It's perfectly clear how many people move between left wing publications, the BBC and Labour party. And I have met enough of their staff to know how beleaguered right leaning staffers feel. Remember, Rod Liddle has been vocal on the beeb's intolerance of Conservative or anti Eu views, and he's a leftie himself. Edited by Dr Jekyll on Friday 2nd June 13:53
TTwiggy said:
Are you privy to the BBC's recruitment processes? Have you met many of the staff?
Yes and yes, the BBC continues to think that diversity is about race creed and colour and not about diversity of opinion.A left leaning view is very evident in most of my friends who work or have worked at the BBC.
Mr GrimNasty said:
BBC has sunk to new depths today, a tidal wave of fake/unscientific assertions/scares about 'climate change' from activists and vested interests with no declarations as such or challenges whatsoever.
I assume you're talking about BBC news programmes? Doesn't the news have to keep things simple? It's not a science documentary. Anyway, isn't Trump pulling out for economic rather than scientific reasons?gruffalo said:
TTwiggy said:
Are you privy to the BBC's recruitment processes? Have you met many of the staff?
Yes and yes, the BBC continues to think that diversity is about race creed and colour and not about diversity of opinion.A left leaning view is very evident in most of my friends who work or have worked at the BBC.
deadslow said:
gruffalo said:
TTwiggy said:
Are you privy to the BBC's recruitment processes? Have you met many of the staff?
Yes and yes, the BBC continues to think that diversity is about race creed and colour and not about diversity of opinion.A left leaning view is very evident in most of my friends who work or have worked at the BBC.
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
gruffalo said:
TTwiggy said:
Are you privy to the BBC's recruitment processes? Have you met many of the staff?
Yes and yes, the BBC continues to think that diversity is about race creed and colour and not about diversity of opinion.A left leaning view is very evident in most of my friends who work or have worked at the BBC.
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