Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
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TTwiggy said:
And yes, I 'get' that you don't like Islam.
One line shut down attempt?FYI, I have no issue with any religion, although I do like visiting Christian churches and cathedrals for both the architecture and to see the extent to which human stupidity affected peoples lives throughout the centuries.
I certainly have no issue with Islam or Muslims, but there are definitely concerns that need to be addressed regarding the extreme interpretations of those religious texts, an open discussion which simply isn't possible right now because people are labelled far right racists as soon as they open their mouth to speak.
Getting back on topic, I have issues with the BBC and the way it lies to the people who pay for it's very existence.
Edited by lyonspride on Monday 2nd July 11:50
lyonspride said:
One line shut down attempt?
FYI, I have no issue with any religion, although I do like visiting Christian churches and cathedrals for both the architecture and to see the extent to which human stupidity affected peoples lives throughout the centuries.
I certainly have no issue with Islam or Muslims, but there are definitely concerns that need to be addressed regarding the extreme interpretations of those religious texts, an open discussion which simply isn't possible right now because people are labelled far right racists as soon as they open their mouth to speak.
Getting back on topic, I have issues with the BBC and the way it lies to the people who pay for it's very existence.
Broaden your mind. Visit some Mosques. Here's one in Cordoba. It's a World Heritage site.FYI, I have no issue with any religion, although I do like visiting Christian churches and cathedrals for both the architecture and to see the extent to which human stupidity affected peoples lives throughout the centuries.
I certainly have no issue with Islam or Muslims, but there are definitely concerns that need to be addressed regarding the extreme interpretations of those religious texts, an open discussion which simply isn't possible right now because people are labelled far right racists as soon as they open their mouth to speak.
Getting back on topic, I have issues with the BBC and the way it lies to the people who pay for it's very existence.
Edited by lyonspride on Monday 2nd July 11:50
lyonspride said:
TTwiggy said:
'Veterans against Terrorism' seem like an even-handed group...
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/e...
So the leader said:https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/e...
“entire Muslim religion is antichrist”
Well by definition isn't any non-Christian religion?
Countdown said:
lyonspride said:
TTwiggy said:
'Veterans against Terrorism' seem like an even-handed group...
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/e...
So the leader said:https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/e...
“entire Muslim religion is antichrist”
Well by definition isn't any non-Christian religion?
All of this is by the by, because the point was simply that the reporting on that is heavily biased and makes use of selected comments taken entirely out of context..
lyonspride said:
It's not even possible to say it's the same person, I mean for a start his name wasn't even "Jesus" until the new testament, it was "Jeshua", closer to modern "Joshua", which for me casts some pretty big shadows over a religion that would entirely make up or change the name of it's most prominent figure. He would also have been middle-eastern in appearance, not white as shown on religious artefacts, and the name "Jeshua" was extremely common as name in that region of the world during that time.
All of this is by the by, because the point was simply that the reporting on that is heavily biased and makes use of selected comments taken entirely out of context..
You know that the Old Testament was written a few hundred years before Jesus was supposedly born.....right?All of this is by the by, because the point was simply that the reporting on that is heavily biased and makes use of selected comments taken entirely out of context..
In any case I have no idea how that is relevant to "muslims being antichrist". In the Koran he's referred to as "Esa bin Maryam" [Jesus son of Mary] (which is unique in that people in arabic culture are usually referred to as being the son/daughter of their father rather than their mother.)
Anyway, we're going off thread here........
El stovey said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Oh my goodness a individual expressed a critical opinion about an idea/ way of living/ ideology he must be a Nazi and everyone who knows him and works with him must be to.
I know there has been a concerted effort to portray a unprovable theoretical idea as a immutable racial characteristic. So it can't be criticised and to do so is unjust and intolerant. But like any religion it's just a theoretical idea and ideas should be open to question and criticism. And to do so doesn't automatically make someone far right.
The article you link is a typical left wing hit piece. When ever you get things like "They have been linked with the far right" you just know they are trying to poetry a narrative and not produce a balanced fair article.
You’re doing exactly what you’re complaining about the BBC doing. I know there has been a concerted effort to portray a unprovable theoretical idea as a immutable racial characteristic. So it can't be criticised and to do so is unjust and intolerant. But like any religion it's just a theoretical idea and ideas should be open to question and criticism. And to do so doesn't automatically make someone far right.
The article you link is a typical left wing hit piece. When ever you get things like "They have been linked with the far right" you just know they are trying to poetry a narrative and not produce a balanced fair article.
You’re saying the BBC’s behaviour shows them to be lefties and that they shouldn’t be calling others (far) righties based on their behaviour.
Your post is a typical right wing hit piece and isn’t balanced and is portraying your own narrative.
Its like me writing an article about you, It could be argued that pistonheads is a right leaning forum in many ways and i've no doubt you believe there are far right individuals on this site and you have engaged in discussion with them. And god forbid you have agreed on one or two particular ideas such as freedom of expression or something similar.
El stovey member and regular contributor of a internet forum with links to the far right
El stovey is a regular member of a right leaning internet forum with far right members. Many members have expressed extreme far right views and El stovey as regularly engaged in discussion and agreed with these individuals on occasion. El stovey as shown disagreement at times and the site itself have regularly removed posts and members which brake forum rules. But the site still attract people with far right views and El stovey chooses to engage and share the space with such individuals.
Can you argue that is inaccurate? You could argue its misleading but its similar to the type of the reporting you see all the time. I will admit the right leaning media do exactly the same thing and are just as bad. But that's why it's important to have a impartial media outlet which the BBC should be but I see the same narrative driven tactics within their reporting all the time.
tangerine_sedge said:
Why dont you just start a "We hate muslims" topic and put all the bile in one place.
Already here:https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&...
tangerine_sedge said:
This thread is just getting used as an opportunity for the usual suspects to attack islam/immigration.
Why dont you just start a "We hate muslims" topic and put all the bile in one place.
Except nobody has said anything to warrant that, I find it depressing that when debate reaches a stalemate, the next step is always direct or indirect aspersions of racism.Why dont you just start a "We hate muslims" topic and put all the bile in one place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nv1dZCHtm8
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561
Vote Leave broke electoral law, Electoral Commission expected to say
Expected by by whome? The BBC?
BBC news front page just says Vote Leave campaign "broke electoral law", with carefully place quote marks.
Basically this means the same as "Electroral commision may find that vote leave broke electoral law, but don't really know yet", but it's all in the wording, "Vote leave broke electoral law" is the message your supposed to remember.
Oh and look, they're not allowing comments on their lead story.
Vote Leave broke electoral law, Electoral Commission expected to say
Expected by by whome? The BBC?
BBC news front page just says Vote Leave campaign "broke electoral law", with carefully place quote marks.
Basically this means the same as "Electroral commision may find that vote leave broke electoral law, but don't really know yet", but it's all in the wording, "Vote leave broke electoral law" is the message your supposed to remember.
Oh and look, they're not allowing comments on their lead story.
Edited by lyonspride on Wednesday 4th July 10:33
lyonspride said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561
Vote Leave broke electoral law, Electoral Commission expected to say
Expected by by whome? The BBC?
Basically this means the same as "Electroral commision may find that vote leave broke electoral law, but don't really know yet", but it's all in the wording, "Vote leave broke electoral law" is the message your supposed to remember.
As that's the message that Vote Leave put out during their interview with the BBC - how else are the BBC supposed to report it?Vote Leave broke electoral law, Electoral Commission expected to say
Expected by by whome? The BBC?
Basically this means the same as "Electroral commision may find that vote leave broke electoral law, but don't really know yet", but it's all in the wording, "Vote leave broke electoral law" is the message your supposed to remember.
To answer your question
"Expected by whom?" - Expected by Vote Leave.
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Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 4th July 10:53
motco said:
Snippet from the BBC News the other day:
"...Prime Minister, Mrs May arrives at her country residence..."
Just 'Chequers' would do - it doesn't imply that she is rich beyond the dreams of avarice. It's subtle shading in reporting that has the drip, drip effect.
The wiki entry for Chequers. "...Prime Minister, Mrs May arrives at her country residence..."
Just 'Chequers' would do - it doesn't imply that she is rich beyond the dreams of avarice. It's subtle shading in reporting that has the drip, drip effect.
Chequers — the official country residence of British Prime Ministers since 1921
“The PMs Country residence” is literally the definition of chequers.
If you looked up chequers online for a definition to use in a news article, that’s how you would describe it. I can’t see how that’s implying anything whatsoever.
motco said:
Snippet from the BBC News the other day:
"...Prime Minister, Mrs May arrives at her country residence..."
Just 'Chequers' would do - it doesn't imply that she is rich beyond the dreams of avarice. It's subtle shading in reporting that has the drip, drip effect.
Jesus you people are desperate. "...Prime Minister, Mrs May arrives at her country residence..."
Just 'Chequers' would do - it doesn't imply that she is rich beyond the dreams of avarice. It's subtle shading in reporting that has the drip, drip effect.
Randy Winkman said:
gadgetmac said:
Jesus you people are desperate.
But with the unbeatable defence that since they are "forced to pay" for the BBC they can criticise them for pretty much anything even if every other broadcaster does it too. It’s not obviously bias but a more sinister drip fed bias.
desolate said:
lyonspride said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561
Vote Leave broke electoral law, Electoral Commission expected to say
Expected by by whome? The BBC?
Basically this means the same as "Electroral commision may find that vote leave broke electoral law, but don't really know yet", but it's all in the wording, "Vote leave broke electoral law" is the message your supposed to remember.
As that's the message that Vote Leave put out during their interview with the BBC - how else are the BBC supposed to report it?Vote Leave broke electoral law, Electoral Commission expected to say
Expected by by whome? The BBC?
Basically this means the same as "Electroral commision may find that vote leave broke electoral law, but don't really know yet", but it's all in the wording, "Vote leave broke electoral law" is the message your supposed to remember.
To answer your question
"Expected by whom?" - Expected by Vote Leave.
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