Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
sure, the link is clearly visible in the screenshot though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49426434
Ta,

That's not a story about rationing to consumers.

That tactic has previously been used before by large scale FMCGs in times of shortages.

Rationing does not mean ration books.


Carl_Manchester

12,233 posts

263 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Brooking10 said:
Carl_Manchester said:
sure, the link is clearly visible in the screenshot though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49426434
Ta,

That's not a story about rationing to consumers.

That tactic has previously been used before by large scale FMCGs in times of shortages.

Rationing does not mean ration books.
You can take what you want from it but the BBC editorial has decided to show empty shelves in a supermarket to supplement the story regardless of the actual content of the words.

From the last few pages it is pretty clear to me that many don't/won't accept the BBC's open bias and needless inflation of the situation whatever some of us type in the keyboard on the forum.



anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
You can take what you want from it but the BBC editorial has decided to show empty shelves in a supermarket to supplement the story regardless of the actual content of the words.

From the last few pages it is pretty clear to me that many don't/won't accept the BBC's open bias and needless inflation of the situation whatever some of us type in the keyboard on the forum.
What I take from it is what it clearly says.

Supermarkets don’t want empty shelves and so will limit supply of items in bulk to people buying them on behalf of independent retailers.

There is zero, nothing, not one thing sinister about that article,

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
Brooking10 said:
Carl_Manchester said:
sure, the link is clearly visible in the screenshot though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49426434
Ta,

That's not a story about rationing to consumers.

That tactic has previously been used before by large scale FMCGs in times of shortages.

Rationing does not mean ration books.
You can take what you want from it but the BBC editorial has decided to show empty shelves in a supermarket to supplement the story regardless of the actual content of the words.

From the last few pages it is pretty clear to me that many don't/won't accept the BBC's open bias and needless inflation of the situation whatever some of us type in the keyboard on the forum.
The problem with your post is that it was on CH4 and it was a supermarket guy stating their intent to ration small shop buyers if necessary.

So it’s clear your bias against the BBC prevents you from seeing news for what it is.

Tony427

2,873 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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You and Yours yesterday lunchtime R4 had a whole programme about Brexit Readiness in Business.

The premise was we are all going to hell in a handcart and everyone is simply running around shouting " Dont Panic".

Unfortunately for the BBC most of the contributors both via phone and email were of the "no problem, we've got it sorted" and " businesses have to be proactive not reactive". Even the industry experts obviously brought in to spread doom and gloom did just the opposite.

Desperate by now to keep the programme on message they brought on secondhand furniture dealer who didn't understand her own VAT situation, as in not realising that you claim back the VAT you pay out and some flooring importer who was flumoxed by it all and wanted someone to tell him what to do. He didn't want to search out his own information unfortunately.

The final caller summed up the situation, " the agile and flexible will thrive, if you are not, you won't".

They even read out my email to start the discussion, so thats my 15 seconds of fame gained.

All the way through the programme though the business reporter in the studio was negativity personified as if it was his role to keep project fear going.

It didnt work.

Cheers,

Tony


Carl_Manchester

12,233 posts

263 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Nickgnome said:
Carl_Manchester said:
Brooking10 said:
Carl_Manchester said:
sure, the link is clearly visible in the screenshot though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49426434
Ta,

That's not a story about rationing to consumers.

That tactic has previously been used before by large scale FMCGs in times of shortages.

Rationing does not mean ration books.
You can take what you want from it but the BBC editorial has decided to show empty shelves in a supermarket to supplement the story regardless of the actual content of the words.

From the last few pages it is pretty clear to me that many don't/won't accept the BBC's open bias and needless inflation of the situation whatever some of us type in the keyboard on the forum.
The problem with your post is that it was on CH4 and it was a supermarket guy stating their intent to ration small shop buyers if necessary.

So it’s clear your bias against the BBC prevents you from seeing news for what it is.
Bias is applied to that article as thus:

‘A grown man of average intelligence would like to cross the street, would like to avoid being hit by a bus although, it is a possibility’ include picture of man being bludgeoned by a bus.

It is factual, Yes! is it news? no does it imply bias? yes.

It implies a bias because it assumes that a man of average intelligence is not capable of crossing the street although a million and more such crossings happen every day without incident and thus is classed as ‘news’.

Not-The-Messiah

3,620 posts

82 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Nickgnome said:
CoolHands said:
Havent read all the above arguing, but I just saw a bit of the 6 O’clock news and

a) over 15 mins of brexit bullst (what are they going to do when it eventually ends?)
b) the bbc bloke was going on about rationing and how shops were planning to ration products like they already do with 3 for 2 offers etc. He explained how the technology is there.
c) there was some other crazy scaremongering story last week they were doing, but I’ve forgotten it now. It was something really stupid.
If you had been paying attention, one of our major supermarkets intend to ration bulk buying by smaller shops try to restock depleted stocks from them.so their normal shoppers would not be deprived.

There was no scaremongering just a statement of intent buy a supermarket chain

Perhaps you should listen more acutely and engage brain.
Then this is not news as most supermarkets do this anyway. So why is it on the news?

dandarez

13,293 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Brooking10 said:
Carl_Manchester said:
You can take what you want from it but the BBC editorial has decided to show empty shelves in a supermarket to supplement the story regardless of the actual content of the words.

From the last few pages it is pretty clear to me that many don't/won't accept the BBC's open bias and needless inflation of the situation whatever some of us type in the keyboard on the forum.
What I take from it is what it clearly says.

Supermarkets don’t want empty shelves and so will limit supply of items in bulk to people buying them on behalf of independent retailers.

There is zero, nothing, not one thing sinister about that article,
Of course there is nothing sinister about it. It's just another of multiple typical scare stories re Brexit.

If not, why say this...
"No-one wants to use the r-word, rationing, but...''

They just used the 'R' word.
Is that plain enough? To scare the gullible.

CoolHands

18,691 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Oh I just remembered the other scaremongering story I caught last week - the bottom line was that the IRA are going to start bombing us all again cos of Boris / the backstop st etc

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
Whoops, I've didn't watch the news this evening but I've just read here that they mentioned rationing again.

That's a bit fking unfortunate for you rofl
Why are you still talking rubbish about this? This is nothing to do with the bbc mentioning rationing or even saying there may be rationing.

We’ve already confirmed that your earlier statement, that started it all, was made up.

WinstonWolf said:
It is exactly that, a social crusade. Did you see the news this weekend, apparently there will be food rationing after Brexit if you believe the BBC spin.
The bbc did not say there “will be” food rationing at all. You didn’t hear them say it. You’re just lying about it now.






Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 22 August 00:14

Le Controleur Horizontal

1,480 posts

61 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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CoolHands said:
Oh I just remembered the other scaremongering story I caught last week - the bottom line was that the IRA are going to start bombing us all again cos of Boris / the backstop st etc
There is some merit in that, look how Irish Republicans have "worked" into the Eu. They have seen the Eu as a path to increase pressure for unification and with the likes of former IRA member Martina Anderson many people should be concerned that they will feel another path is blocked for them.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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dandarez said:
Brooking10 said:
Carl_Manchester said:
You can take what you want from it but the BBC editorial has decided to show empty shelves in a supermarket to supplement the story regardless of the actual content of the words.

From the last few pages it is pretty clear to me that many don't/won't accept the BBC's open bias and needless inflation of the situation whatever some of us type in the keyboard on the forum.
What I take from it is what it clearly says.

Supermarkets don’t want empty shelves and so will limit supply of items in bulk to people buying them on behalf of independent retailers.

There is zero, nothing, not one thing sinister about that article,
Of course there is nothing sinister about it. It's just another of multiple typical scare stories re Brexit.

If not, why say this...
"No-one wants to use the r-word, rationing, but...''

They just used the 'R' word.
Is that plain enough? To scare the gullible.
You do know it wasn't the BBC who said that ?




wc98

10,416 posts

141 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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proper bunch of climate melts on at the moment. i do look forward to flying to mainland europe in an electric aircraft in 10 years though, possibly sooner biggrin

how it's possible to justify air time to a group of raving lunatics like that i have no idea. i suppose the alarmist element is something they think sells news.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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El stovey said:
WinstonWolf said:
Whoops, I've didn't watch the news this evening but I've just read here that they mentioned rationing again.

That's a bit fking unfortunate for you rofl
Why are you still talking rubbish about this? This is nothing to do with the bbc mentioning rationing or even saying there may be rationing.

We’ve already confirmed that your earlier statement, that started it all, was made up.

WinstonWolf said:
It is exactly that, a social crusade. Did you see the news this weekend, apparently there will be food rationing after Brexit if you believe the BBC spin.
The bbc did not say there “will be” food rationing at all. You didn’t hear them say it. You’re just lying about it now.






Edited by El stovey on Thursday 22 August 00:14
Blimey, this must be *really* important if you came on PH at midnight to post about it rofl

The bit your tiny brain fails to understand is the emotiveness of the word rationing which all came about due to an inconsequential *worst case scenario* report from a council minion arse covering.


Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
Blimey, this must be *really* important if you came on PH at midnight to post about it rofl

The bit your tiny brain fails to understand is the emotiveness of the word rationing which all came about due to an inconsequential *worst case scenario* report from a council minion arse covering.
What do you say to the representative of one of major supermarket who mentioned the R word?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
Blimey, this must be *really* important if you came on PH at midnight to post about it rofl

The bit your tiny brain fails to understand is the emotiveness of the word rationing which all came about due to an inconsequential *worst case scenario* report from a council minion arse covering.
We’re not all in the same time zone.

I completely understand about the emotive nature of words, but obviously that’s not what I was asking you about.

You said the bbc said something “will happen” you were asked for proof, which you can’t supply and then you made up some lies and can’t admit that they didn’t say it.

Fair enough. It’s a shame though, I always knew you were a bit reactionary from your blairout days but never had you down as one of the PH liars.

I’m sure it’s easy for people to find real examples of bias without having to make stuff up?

I’ll leave you to it.



stuckmojo

2,982 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Nickgnome said:
What do you say to the representative of one of major supermarket who mentioned the R word?
I'll chip in, and feel free to go on Iplayer to listen to the 6PM Radio 4 news.

they mentioned in the titles that supermarket might need to ration

Then the supermarket did explain that they would basically put some goods on an allocation basis to avoid small traders buy up all the stock at once, thus creating a problem for individual customers. A bit like they do when they have sales on.

But the tone I got form first hearing the soundbite was indeed "rationing underway due to Brexit". Read in that what you will.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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El stovey said:
WinstonWolf said:
Blimey, this must be *really* important if you came on PH at midnight to post about it rofl

The bit your tiny brain fails to understand is the emotiveness of the word rationing which all came about due to an inconsequential *worst case scenario* report from a council minion arse covering.
We’re not all in the same time zone.

I completely understand about the emotive nature of words, but obviously that’s not what I was asking you about.

You said the bbc said something “will happen” you were asked for proof, which you can’t supply and then you made up some lies and can’t admit that they didn’t say it.

Fair enough. It’s a shame though, I always knew you were a bit reactionary from your blairout days but never had you down as one of the PH liars.

I’m sure it’s easy for people to find real examples of bias without having to make stuff up?

I’ll leave you to it.
I said rationing was the lead story over the weekend. Semantics are the measure of a desperate man.

No one apart from you and your fwiends cares about the throwaway use of language in conversation, they are more interested in the way the BBC reports things to fit their agenda.

Watch how the BBC used to report the facts rather than present their opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjdq551vCf4

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
I said rationing was the lead story over the weekend. Semantics are the measure of a desperate man.
Er no. For the last time.


El stovey said:
WinstonWolf said:
It is exactly that, a social crusade. Did you see the news this weekend, apparently there will be food rationing after Brexit if you believe the BBC spin.
Do you have a link to that?
More lies.

This was the exchange that started the whole debate.

Everything else is just waffle.

I simply asked for evidence, and as everyone can see, you’re just blagging and making stuff up. The bbc didn’t say there WILL be rationing.








Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 22 August 12:37

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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El stovey said:
WinstonWolf said:
I said rationing was the lead story over the weekend. Semantics are the measure of a desperate man.
Er no. For the last time.


El stovey said:
WinstonWolf said:
It is exactly that, a social crusade. Did you see the news this weekend, apparently there will be food rationing after Brexit if you believe the BBC spin.
Do you have a link to that?
More lies.

This was the exchange that started the whole debate.

Everything else is just waffle.

I simply asked for evidence, and as everyone can see, you’re just blagging and making stuff up. The bbc didn’t say there WILL be rationing.








Edited by El stovey on Thursday 22 August 12:37
You liar this is the exchange that started the debate.

WinstonWolf said:
El stovey said:
turbobloke said:
It's news, it's politics, but it's not surprising either in nature or the timescale to the climbdown..

Screenshots of articles now to hide the source. rofl

It from the express, unsurprisingly.
Which papers contain acceptable viewpoints?
And what I said was "It is exactly that, a social crusade. Did you see the news this weekend, apparently there will be food rationing after Brexit if you believe the BBC spin"


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