Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

[Zirconia]

psi310398 said:

Making the licence fee essentially optional has been mooted and would degrade the BBC's income stream very quickly.

Who in their right minds would pay a levy that's unenforceable? I'm sure there are some high-minded people here who will pay because the BBC provides value beyond the price of rubies etc, but what about the majority?

Let’s see what they propose. I favour a compulsory funded public broadcast in some form. But no one will n a position to change it is listening to me.

Lots of things go from my taxes I don’t agree with, life’s a bh.

[anonymous-user]

psi310398 said:

TheInternet said:

It's wrong though. ITV managed to stomach a significantly greater loss on their equally dismal Friends Reunited venture.

I'd forgotten about that! Thanks.

Similarly the company which effectively became today’s ITV took a bigger hit than that on the ITV Digital debacle.

[psi310398]

Brooking10 said:

Similarly the company which effectively became today’s ITV took a bigger hit than that on the ITV Digital debacle.

Which, as a consequence, means that the new ITV would not now be in a position to weather such a loss again, surely?

[anonymous-user]

psi310398 said:

Brooking10 said:

Similarly the company which effectively became today’s ITV took a bigger hit than that on the ITV Digital debacle.

Which, as a consequence, means that the new ITV would not now be in a position to weather such a loss again, surely?

Well they didn’t learn as the FR cock up showed !

Modern day ITV is much more of a “stick to the knitting” business than it was at the time of those two spectacularly unsuccessful forays, largely down to the skilled stewardship of now departed chairman and ex Tory MP Archie.

[anonymous-user]

An interesting and noteworthy perspective from Huw Edwards published earlier today


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ge19-from-presenter...

[21st Century Man]

As long as the debate revolves around accusations and rebuttal of left/right bias, it's the perfect smokescreen for the real bias.

[Crackie]

Brooking10 said:

An interesting and noteworthy perspective from Huw Edwards published earlier today


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ge19-from-presenter...

That is one perspective............conversely, Peter Sissons and John Humphrys, BBC News stalwarts with decades of experience between them, were both condemning.

Sir Anthony Jay described the BBC as having an institutional liberal bias. "We were anti-industry, anti-capitalism, anti-advertising, anti-selling, anti-profit, anti-patriotism, anti-monarchy, anti-Empire, anti-police, anti-armed forces, anti-bomb, anti-authority. Almost anything that made the world a freer, safer and more prosperous place, you name it, we were anti it.”

[ReverendCounter]

I was just about to ask if anyone had raised the prior practice of MI5 vetting BBC applicants, so I googled 'pistonheads bbc bias mi6 screening vetting observer' first - with no results.

The Observer exposé of applicants being prevented from working for the BBC for years led to the hard swing to the left after the practice was ended - and its been that way since. I'm fairly certain I could hear the barely concealed dismay at the conservative decimation of labour last Friday while I was listening to R4 presenters.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Are the BBC just obsessed with Stormzy?

Despite being a groovy youngster myself, having been an avid viewer of Top of the Pops since the late 1970s I have never heard of him in any other context apart from the BBC reporting whatever nonsense he's spouting.

[Mr. White]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Are the BBC just obsessed with Stormzy?

Despite being a groovy youngster myself, having been an avid viewer of Top of the Pops since the late 1970s I have never heard of him in any other context apart from the BBC reporting whatever nonsense he's spouting.

He's the white person's "black knight", a favourite of the white middle class "liberal" left looking to prove their lefty credentials.

[anonymous-user]

21st Century Man said:

As long as the debate revolves around accusations and rebuttal of left/right bias, it's the perfect smokescreen for the real bias.

Good point.

I can’t read Kuenssberg not due to bias but because her journalism is awful and sentence structure so annoying it’s impossible to get past the first paragraph without just glancing at the rest to see how many repeated first words there are - generally all are But/And/It’ll

How on earth did she get the job?? Pinar is so much more professional he’s in a different league.

[TR4man]

V6 Pushfit said:

How on earth did she get the job?? Pinar is so much more professional he’s in a different league.

She has a considerable advantage over Pinaar from the BBC's perspective - she's a woman.

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TR4man said:

V6 Pushfit said:

How on earth did she get the job?? Pinar is so much more professional he’s in a different league.

She has a considerable advantage over Pinaar from the BBC's perspective - she's a woman.

P I E N A A R

As in Francois.

So far we have had Pinar, Pinaar and my favourite Pinner, as in Middlesex

If you think he’s so good at least do the bloke the courtesy of spelling his fking name properly !

[rxe]

V6 Pushfit said:

Good point.

I can’t read Kuenssberg not due to bias but because her journalism is awful and sentence structure so annoying it’s impossible to get past the first paragraph without just glancing at the rest to see how many repeated first words there are - generally all are But/And/It’ll

How on earth did she get the job?? Pinar is so much more professional he’s in a different league.

I literally have to turn the news off when she comes on, otherwise I would need to buy a new telly. I think it encapsulates the problem with the BBC news content - it’s all opinion heavy, and fact light. Facts would be a journalist going out canvassing with various parties and reporting Labour are getting destroyed in various places, and the Conservatives in others - that’s actual journalism. Instead we get Laura gibbering about her view of what’s happening. And as for that tit Peston, for crying out loud, just say the words. I know he is on ITV now...

[Pastor Of Muppets]

rxe said:

I literally have to turn the news off when she comes on, otherwise I would need to buy a new telly. I think it encapsulates the problem with the BBC news content - it’s all opinion heavy, and fact light. Facts would be a journalist going out canvassing with various parties and reporting Labour are getting destroyed in various places, and the Conservatives in others - that’s actual journalism. Instead we get Laura gibbering about her view of what’s happening. And as for that tit Peston, for crying out loud, just say the words. I know he is on ITV now...

Laura Kuenssberg, The non thinking mans Hilda Ogden, must admit she is rather obnoxious.

[rscott]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Are the BBC just obsessed with Stormzy?

Despite being a groovy youngster myself, having been an avid viewer of Top of the Pops since the late 1970s I have never heard of him in any other context apart from the BBC reporting whatever nonsense he's spouting.

Biggest selling black artist of the year, multilple Mobo winner, headlined Glastonbury, provides scholarships for underprivileged students to go to university, criticised Theresa May over Grenfell, etc.
Yep, obviously a nobody and should be ignored by the BBC.

[Dont like rolls]

rscott said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Are the BBC just obsessed with Stormzy?

Despite being a groovy youngster myself, having been an avid viewer of Top of the Pops since the late 1970s I have never heard of him in any other context apart from the BBC reporting whatever nonsense he's spouting.

Biggest selling black artist of the year, multilple Mobo winner, headlined Glastonbury, provides scholarships for underprivileged students to go to university, criticised Theresa May over Grenfell, etc.
Yep, obviously a nobody and should be ignored by the BBC.

And being in "entertainment" his understanding of our political hive mind is more worth that yours, shut up and listen to the project's words !

[psi310398]

rscott said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Are the BBC just obsessed with Stormzy?

Despite being a groovy youngster myself, having been an avid viewer of Top of the Pops since the late 1970s I have never heard of him in any other context apart from the BBC reporting whatever nonsense he's spouting.

Biggest selling black artist of the year, multilple Mobo winner, headlined Glastonbury, provides scholarships for underprivileged students to go to university, criticised Theresa May over Grenfell, etc.
Yep, obviously a nobody and should be ignored by the BBC.

His idiotic and, frankly evil, glorification of a gang culture that sees the pointless death of dozens of youngsters every year rather diminishes the legitimacy of, or interest, in anything he has to say, in my view.

We had people here frothing about Nigel Farage's metaphorical statement about taking up arms and demanding that the police take action, but some seem quite happy to give people like Stormzy a privileged position as a political spokesman despite his encouraging the actual use of guns.

And it's not a one-off aberration - look at the lyrics on any of his albums.

[rscott]

psi310398 said:

rscott said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Are the BBC just obsessed with Stormzy?

Despite being a groovy youngster myself, having been an avid viewer of Top of the Pops since the late 1970s I have never heard of him in any other context apart from the BBC reporting whatever nonsense he's spouting.

Biggest selling black artist of the year, multilple Mobo winner, headlined Glastonbury, provides scholarships for underprivileged students to go to university, criticised Theresa May over Grenfell, etc.
Yep, obviously a nobody and should be ignored by the BBC.

His idiotic and, frankly evil, glorification of a gang culture that sees the pointless death of dozens of youngsters every year rather diminishes the legitimacy of, or interest, in anything he has to say, in my view.

We had people here frothing about Nigel Farage's metaphorical statement about taking up arms and demanding that the police take action, but some seem quite happy to give people like Stormzy a privileged position as a political spokesman despite his encouraging the actual use of guns.

And it's not a one-off aberration - look at the lyrics on any of his albums.

Does he actually glorify it, or just comment on what's actually happening?

https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/gyq9zq/listen-t...

[psi310398]

rscott said:

Does he actually glorify it, or just comment on what's actually happening?

https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/gyq9zq/listen-t...

Hmm. I understand the argument and it might work if he actually drew any moral or practical conclusions about the life but it reads to me as if he is simply glorifying it. But read the lyrics yourself. I'm perfectly willing to accept that I might be wrong.

IMO his defence carries as much conviction as an old 70's rocker claiming that he was simply making social commentary about hard drugs...