Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

[paulrockliffe]

TTwiggy said:

paulrockliffe said:

V1nce Fox said:

TTwiggy said:

V1nce Fox said:

TTwiggy said:

V1nce Fox said:

I'll obey the law.

I don’t follow? Are you saying that your word should be good enough? Should that apply to everyone, or are you special?

It's not my job to teach you.

Eh?

You asked me what my approach is.
I replied I'll follow the law on this matter.
You've then dug for clarification.

If you don't know what the current UK legal requirements are regarding cancelling the licence fee, go and look them up.

He wants you to agree that Capita should be allowed to enter your house to check because obviously everyone does watch TV. And you're a wrong'un looking to get free TV if you don't want to let Capita poke around your house.

He hopes you won't ask why the Police would require evidence of an offense to obtain that same access because then he would have to pretend he'd let the Police toss his house without a warrant, because if you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to hide.

Not at all. I was just seeking some clarification, but the poster chose to be oblique. The problem with that approach is that other people are forced to make assumptions. Some people feel the need to stretch things out with non-committal answers when, it seems to me, a lot of confusion could be avoided by just answering a question.

He's pretty clear, he's going to cancel the license fee and stop watching TV. You are picking at that because you think the BBC should be able to reverse the burden of proof so that that OP has to prove there's been no offence, because obviously he'll still be watching TV.

Assuming you don't agree that the instruments of state should be able to ask you to prove your innocence in other areas on a whim, why do you think the BBC should be different?

[chrispmartha]

WinstonWolf said:

chrispmartha said:

WinstonWolf said:

chrispmartha said:

WinstonWolf said:

chrispmartha said:

Blue62 said:

It’s only a bit of fun

I think we've established the BBC haters don't do comedy or 'fun' it seems.

I'm guessing you think The Mash Report is 'funny'?

No I don't as it goes, it wasn't on my list was it.

Go on, what comedies do you like?

The BBC seem to think it's exceptionally funny, I thought you'd like it as it's full on woke and very safe...

‘Woke’ is this the ‘snowflake’ of 2020.

You see i am capable of realising that i don’t like everything the BBC produce but knowing some people will like it and the BBC cater for all tastes.

And it's surprisingly accurate.

One BBC comedy I do like is W1A, I've just got to figure out if it's actually a comedy or a documentary.

Well it’s not accurate is it because Im sure youd describe me as ‘woke’ (whatever that means) yet I don’t like the Mash report.

[768]

TTwiggy said:

768 said:

How do you check if someone's watching broadcast TV while leaving them with some privacy?

The sort of privacy that the much vaunted Netflix and Amazon afford the viewer?

I'd take that any day over TVL knocking on the door.

[i4got]

chrispmartha said:

‘Woke’ is this the ‘snowflake’ of 2020.

You see i am capable of realising that i don’t like everything the BBC produce but knowing some people will like it and the BBC cater for all tastes.

So you know what I don’t watch the stuff I don’t like and get on with my life without frothing about it, you should try that approach

Edited by chrispmartha on Tuesday 18th February 11:36

You're posting a lot about this a lot for someone "getting on with their life without frothing about it."

[WinstonWolf]

i4got said:

chrispmartha said:

‘Woke’ is this the ‘snowflake’ of 2020.

You see i am capable of realising that i don’t like everything the BBC produce but knowing some people will like it and the BBC cater for all tastes.

So you know what I don’t watch the stuff I don’t like and get on with my life without frothing about it, you should try that approach

Edited by chrispmartha on Tuesday 18th February 11:36

You're posting a lot about this a lot for someone "getting on with their life without frothing about it."

Good hit

[amusingduck]

768 said:

TTwiggy said:

768 said:

How do you check if someone's watching broadcast TV while leaving them with some privacy?

The sort of privacy that the much vaunted Netflix and Amazon afford the viewer?

I'd take that any day over TVL knocking on the door.

[chrispmartha]

WinstonWolf said:

i4got said:

chrispmartha said:

‘Woke’ is this the ‘snowflake’ of 2020.

You see i am capable of realising that i don’t like everything the BBC produce but knowing some people will like it and the BBC cater for all tastes.

So you know what I don’t watch the stuff I don’t like and get on with my life without frothing about it, you should try that approach

Edited by chrispmartha on Tuesday 18th February 11:36

You're posting a lot about this a lot for someone "getting on with their life without frothing about it."

Good hit

Not really, because I’m not the one frothing about the BBC creating shows I don’t like, hence ‘getting on with my life’.

[Down and out]

Let's add the license fee to a full Sky TV compulsory package.

[Crackie]

chrispmartha said:

Blue62 said:

It’s only a bit of fun

I think we've established the BBC haters don't do comedy or 'fun' it seems.

Think again.

[Blue62]

WinstonWolf said:

Good hit

I don't pop in here as often as I used to, but when did it become over run with gormless idiots applauding one another?

A good hit! Is this really the level of discussion nowadays, I suppose it regression therapy.

[WinstonWolf]

Blue62 said:

WinstonWolf said:

Good hit

I don't pop in here as often as I used to, but when did it become over run with gormless idiots applauding one another?

A good hit! Is this really the level of discussion nowadays, I suppose it regression therapy.

I'm sorry this thread didn't live up to your expectations, perhaps some of the others will

[turbobloke]

WinstonWolf said:

Blue62 said:

WinstonWolf said:

Good hit

I don't pop in here as often as I used to, but when did it become over run with gormless idiots applauding one another?

A good hit! Is this really the level of discussion nowadays, I suppose it regression therapy.

I'm sorry this thread didn't live up to your expectations, perhaps some of the others will

You could have just said 'good hit' then mentioned something about gormless idiots disagreeing about the hapless BBC.

Meanwhile the BBC is still facing meaningful review, which is good.

[TTwiggy]

paulrockliffe said:

He's pretty clear, he's going to cancel the license fee and stop watching TV. You are picking at that because you think the BBC should be able to reverse the burden of proof so that that OP has to prove there's been no offence, because obviously he'll still be watching TV.

Assuming you don't agree that the instruments of state should be able to ask you to prove your innocence in other areas on a whim, why do you think the BBC should be different?

I wasn't demanding that he prove his innocence, I was curious as to how he might feel about that innocence being verified.

We all drive within the speed limits; speed cameras test our commitment.

[Dont like rolls]

TTwiggy said:

I wasn't demanding that he prove his innocence, I was curious as to how he might feel about that innocence being verified.

We all drive within the speed limits; speed cameras test our commitment.

I do not, speed cameras test my observation skills/Waze updates and choice where (allegedly)

[amusingduck]

TTwiggy said:

paulrockliffe said:

He's pretty clear, he's going to cancel the license fee and stop watching TV. You are picking at that because you think the BBC should be able to reverse the burden of proof so that that OP has to prove there's been no offence, because obviously he'll still be watching TV.

Assuming you don't agree that the instruments of state should be able to ask you to prove your innocence in other areas on a whim, why do you think the BBC should be different?

I wasn't demanding that he prove his innocence, I was curious as to how he might feel about that innocence being verified.

We all drive within the speed limits; speed cameras test our commitment.

Do they verify that your SORN car is actually off the road?

Speed cameras test that you're using your vehicle appropriately. They ("They", not the cameras) don't verify that people without a driving licence are infact, not driving anywhere

Edited by amusingduck on Tuesday 18th February 14:50

[Down and out]

TTwiggy said:

I wasn't demanding that he prove his innocence, I was curious as to how he might feel about that innocence being verified.

We all drive within the speed limits; speed cameras test our commitment.

Feel free to check out the adherence to the 20 zones around my local city.

[768]

amusingduck said:

Speed cameras test that you're using your vehicle appropriately.

Bloody hell they've advanced a long way!

[amusingduck]

768 said:

amusingduck said:

Speed cameras test that you're using your vehicle appropriately.

Bloody hell they've advanced a long way!

you know what I mean!

[paulrockliffe]

TTwiggy said:

I was curious as to how he might feel about that innocence being verified.

We don't verify innocence, we prove guilt. Innocence doesn't need to be verified, because we're all innocent until proven guilty.

The BBC situation traduces that principle.

[TTwiggy]

paulrockliffe said:

We don't verify innocence, we prove guilt. Innocence doesn't need to be verified, because we're all innocent until proven guilty.

The BBC situation traduces that principle.

Not really. If you have a TV in your house it will be capable of receiving live transmissions. If you assert that it does not, it seems reasonable to prove such. If you point a gun at my head I won't take your word for it that it's not loaded, and therefore not being used for its primary purpose.