Do you believe the BBC has an inherent left wing bias?

[andymadmak]

wsurfa said:

Inside the beeb there is little understanding that their output is biased because there is a high % of 'Guardianistas' so any truely centrist view is seen as right wing and left wing is seen as normal.

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This

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thinfourth2 said:

Can we have an additional answer

yes i belive the BBC is left wing biased and i have done absolutely nothing about it other then bh on an internet forum about it and scream blue murder about the cost while paying my license fee like a good little sheeple and paying £50 a month for some total dross from Sky


Which will be the vast majority

Don't be silly. Frothing is better than doing, obviously.

[anonymous-user]

andymadmak said:

wsurfa said:

Inside the beeb there is little understanding that their output is biased because there is a high % of 'Guardianistas' so any truely centrist view is seen as right wing and left wing is seen as normal.

^^^^^^^^^^
This

That's not true, BBC figures regularly make comment on there being a liberal bias at the BBC.

It's well known, Andrew Marr said it again recently.

[maniac0796]

It comes with that sort of job being left wing. You'll get the odd right wing reporter but most of them lean left because no one complains when you report on social mobility and fairness.

This line from the simpsons sums it up pretty well:
"Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but deep down inside you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. That's why I did this: to protect you from yourselves."

[12gauge]

All TV media has a left wing bias. Its why Fox News sticks out like a sore thumb.


Given the regulators charged with maintaining 'impartiality' are themselves left wing, its taken as granted all TV output will be left wing too. Maybe BBC is more blatantly left wing than SKY or ITV, but they're all firmly on the left.

[Countdown]

12gauge said:

All TV media has a left wing bias. Its why Fox News sticks out like a sore thumb.

If "everybody else" is perceived as left-wing could it be that everybody else is actually mainstream / "in the centre " and it is the observer who is right - wing?

[12gauge]

rah1888 said:

Some of the comments disagree though.

Seriously, how left wing do your own views need to be to consider the BBC right wing? Unbelieveable.

You have to realize the average Labour member would consider this unbiased...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6CPReuT_hg

[Colonial]

Countdown said:

If "everybody else" is perceived as left-wing could it be that everybody else is actually mainstream / "in the centre " and it is the observer who is right - wing?

Don't even bother.

When people complain about paint colour they have lost the plot.

[12gauge]

Countdown said:

If "everybody else" is perceived as left-wing could it be that everybody else is actually mainstream / "in the centre " and it is the observer who is right - wing?

Well, its all relative, obviously. But when the commission that decides what constitutes unbiased is generally supported by the left, and the only voices to get rid of it come from the right, that should tell you something.

[12gauge]

Colonial said:

Don't even bother.

When people complain about paint colour they have lost the plot.

Whose complaining about paint colour? In much of the 90s, the set was blue. Still left wing. Get a grip.

[Colonial]

12gauge said:

Whose complaining about paint colour? In much of the 90s, the set was blue. Still left wing. Get a grip.

I'm the other thread.

And bias only exists where you disagree with it. If you are far right or far left you will see much more bias than those on the centre.

[GestapoWatch]

I don't get left, right bias etc.

I wouldn't dare nail my colours to the mast of any group of politicians as I don't trust any of them and would be in constant fear of egg-on-face later on, after supporting their lie-ridden manifestos.

Whilst were at it I'm not prejudice as not only do I not trust any large organisation or powerful entity neither would I p155 on any of the self-serving, secretive bs if they were on fire.

But that's just me...

[purplepolarbear]

Has anyone analysed this scientifically, e.g. as follows:

Take a sample of the BBC's output, e.g. by taking all the programs where politicians are interviewed in the course of a few weeks, selecting a program at random and selecting a time from the program at random.

For data point in the sample,
Note the party the politician represents.
Time how long did the politician gets to answer the question they were being asked before being interrupted or challenged by the interviewer.

If politicians of one colour are being interviewed more frequently or getting longer to answer questions, then there may be a bias.

[UnderTheRadar]

I'm a big fan of the concept of the BBC and they have delivered in the past. The BBC home page is my internet home page. It has been changing quite rapidly over the last year or so. I can't say I've seen a left bias but I have seen a surge of simply limp middle-of-the-road journalism taking no stance and providing no knowledge or insight. It's just all a bit cosy and lazy. Lots of bland self-contradicting articles poorly written. We have two options - write them off and privitise it and let Murdoch sack them, or fix it. I suspect fixing it will require someone with the proverbial balls of steel as there is so much entrenched dogma.

[Halb]

obob said:

If more than 1 in 10 people in Salford know what a latte is I'll eat my hat.

It's when you're not on time to sign on for your giro?

Off to play footteball in Hanky Park

[thinfourth2]

12gauge said:

You have to realize the average Labour member would consider this unbiased...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6CPReuT_hg

Replace maggie thatcher with wink and the labour party with the torts and you get the world as seen by pistonheads

[MartyPubes]

frosted said:

Wrong forum to be asking this sort of question

Exactly, PH is more right than the BBC is left.

[FarleyRusk]

MartyPubes said:

Exactly, PH is more right than the BBC is left.

Not sure. The Torygraph is right wing and ignores other view points it disagrees with to the same extent that the Beeb does the other way around. The difference is that one is a commercial enterprise and the other is a cabal of hand-wringing,subsidised, left wing bed-wetters :-D

[Motorrad]

thinfourth2 said:

Can we have an additional answer

yes i belive the BBC is left wing biased and i have done absolutely nothing about it other then bh on an internet forum about it and scream blue murder about the cost while paying my license fee like a good little sheeple and paying £50 a month for some total dross from Sky


Which will be the vast majority

This I like.

Whiners need to stop paying for this st if they don't like it.

Of course it might be they either don't have a pair or are so hopelessly addicted to the television they cannot imagine life without it. In that case they can shut the fk up, the spineless knobs.

[DieselGriff]

Motorrad said:

This I like.

Whiners need to stop paying for this st if they don't like it.

Of course it might be they either don't have a pair or are so hopelessly addicted to the television they cannot imagine life without it. In that case they can shut the fk up, the spineless knobs.

What about people that want to watch other channels legally?