Water Charity Adverts

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dandarez said:

Do I give to overseas aid? No. When I saw how one major UK charity used (sorry, wasted) its money, and used it to get a prime position in the High Street, that was it for me.

The High Street "prime position" may actually be costing the Charity nothing. If a shop is empty the landlord has to pay business rates. If the shop is occupied by a Charity the rates charge is heavily discounted and sometimes nil. by letting it rent-free to a Charity the Landlord avoids paying rates and the Charity also benefits.

dandarez said:

Call me old fashioned - charity begins at home - the air ambulance and so on.

Fair enough. However the way I see it £1 has a much bigger impact in Africa/Asia than it does in the UK/Europe.

[chris watton]

Countdown said:

Fair enough. However the way I see it £1 has a much bigger impact in Africa/Asia than it does in the UK/Europe.

Too right! With the rising populations, more AK's are needed, and Merc's aint getting any cheaper - every little helps

[Fittster]

otolith said:

Going off topic, because the water charity work is not predominantly about emergency relief, but I think there is a question of whether there are certain bits of the planet which will never be able to support human populations without periodic catastrophic famines. The question is, should we be helping people try to make a life there? Is there any other option for them?

According to the website the charity help people in the following countries:

Angola
Bangladesh
Burkina Faso
Ethiopia
Ghana
India
Kenya
Laos
Lesotho
Liberia
Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mozambique
Nepal
Nicaragua
Niger
Nigeria
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
Rwanda
Sierra Leone
Swaziland
Tanzania
Timor-Leste
Uganda
Zambia

[hornet]

otolith said:

Yes, stick it in the kettle, plug it in...

Lack of firewood and deforestation are issues in many of these places.

Read about a charity that was distributing solar ovens in rural India to reduce respiritory diseases caused by cooking on open fires. Very cheap to make (can even use scrap material), less effort required than an open fire and much better for all concerned. Would seem to be at least part of the solution to the "can't boil it" problem?

[otolith]

Fittster said:

otolith said:

Going off topic, because the water charity work is not predominantly about emergency relief, but I think there is a question of whether there are certain bits of the planet which will never be able to support human populations without periodic catastrophic famines. The question is, should we be helping people try to make a life there? Is there any other option for them?

According to the website the charity help people in the following countries:

Angola
Bangladesh
Burkina Faso
Ethiopia
Ghana
India
Kenya
Laos
Lesotho
Liberia
Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mozambique
Nepal
Nicaragua
Niger
Nigeria
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
Rwanda
Sierra Leone
Swaziland
Tanzania
Timor-Leste
Uganda
Zambia

Which charity is that? I'm specifically talking about emergency famine relief, not clean water projects or poverty relief or long term investment in infrastructure.

[Fittster]

otolith said:

Fittster said:

otolith said:

Going off topic, because the water charity work is not predominantly about emergency relief, but I think there is a question of whether there are certain bits of the planet which will never be able to support human populations without periodic catastrophic famines. The question is, should we be helping people try to make a life there? Is there any other option for them?

According to the website the charity help people in the following countries:

Angola
Bangladesh
Burkina Faso
Ethiopia
Ghana
India
Kenya
Laos
Lesotho
Liberia
Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mozambique
Nepal
Nicaragua
Niger
Nigeria
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
Rwanda
Sierra Leone
Swaziland
Tanzania
Timor-Leste
Uganda
Zambia

Which charity is that? I'm specifically talking about emergency famine relief, not clean water projects or poverty relief or long term investment in infrastructure.

http://www.wateraid.org/uk/what_we_do/where_we_wor...

Whose request for funds the OP is objecting to.

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chris watton said:

Countdown said:

Fair enough. However the way I see it £1 has a much bigger impact in Africa/Asia than it does in the UK/Europe.

Too right! With the rising populations, more AK's are needed, and Merc's aint getting any cheaper - every little helps

Yes - because of course that's what the Smile Train and Sightsavers spend their money on.

[Jinx]

What I want to know is how come £2 a month gives them clean water but Lee Valley charge me £50?

[SpeedMattersNot]

I'm surprised I am yet to see a "due to global warming, these children don't have any water".

Not a joking matter I know, it's horrendous. But I won't be donating to those charities, I feel I contribute enough at home through taxes and also I prefer to donate locally.

[Kermit power]

The one which always used to amuse me was the NSPCC ad which went something along the lines of "little Johnny doesn't cry because he knows nobody will come even if he does".

You could see the evil side of parents across the country thinking "hmm... so he'll stop crying, will he?"

Funny how that particular short got quickly dropped from their sequence!

[hollydog]

All these charities are a waist of money and time. It just prelong the suffering. We would never be able to give enough to sort the country into a position to get the counties to support itself. Remember as well behind the charity theres allways some one driving a bentley.

[anonymous-user]

hollydog said:

All these charities are a waist of money and time. It just prelong the suffering. We would never be able to give enough to sort the country into a position to get the counties to support itself. Remember as well behind the charity theres allways some one driving a bentley.

I think we should focus on putting our money into our own education system, judging by the state of the above.

[Caulkhead]

Fittster said:

Whose request for funds the OP is objecting to.

I'm not objecting to their request for funds, I'm objecting to their adverts which state the people in them have no choice but to drink bug-infested water without explaining why they can't boil the water while they wait for their well to be built for them.

[Morningside]

What annoys me about the adverts are: Fatima has to walk five miles to collect water for the family.

Where is the lazy father then? Too knackered from all that shagging?

[powerstroke]

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

I just wish they'd fix the root cause of the problem - stop them fking like rabbits and having 5+ children.
The land simply cannot support such numbers of people.
All the aid we send simply allows them to carry on breeding thus compounding the issue further.

yes its a pity one of these fiefdoms sorry I mean charitys coundnt put something in the water, mind if you solved the problem your little scam is out of bussiness,

I guess that is one of the reasons the catholic church is so anti contreception
less poor people less people for your church,

[rover 623gsi]

Caulkhead said:

I'm not objecting to their request for funds, I'm objecting to their adverts which state the people in them have no choice but to drink bug-infested water without explaining why they can't boil the water while they wait for their well to be built for them.

Perhaps because they only have so much time in an advert and you can’t fit every piece of relevant information into that amount of time?

I suspect that that biggest improvements in the health of Britons occurred not as a result of medical advances but because of improved sanitation.

[Fittster]

Caulkhead said:

Fittster said:

Whose request for funds the OP is objecting to.

I'm not objecting to their request for funds, I'm objecting to their adverts which state the people in them have no choice but to drink bug-infested water without explaining why they can't boil the water while they wait for their well to be built for them.

You'd think wateraid didn't have a website.

"Thirteen year old Pauline is from the village of Nala and is one of the many people in Tanzania who don't have access to safe water.
Her only water source is this muddy hole, as she explains:

"I come to this water hole twice a day to collect water for drinking and cooking at home and also cleaning and drinking at school. It is 2kms walk from school and about 3kms for me to walk home from here.
"Sometimes I get sick from this water as we can’t boil it because of lack of firewood. I get stomach aches all the time. I have never seen clean water from a tap before. This is the only type of water I know about." "

http://www.wateraid.org/uk/donate/change_lives_tod...

[freecar]

Silent1 said:

When we owned them they did fine, they wanted independence so we gave it to them, a few years later they're on the phone begging for money, I have an opinion, we re-colonise and run the place before china takes them all over or we leave them to it.

Quite frankly how an entire continent with that much mineral wealth can fk everything up so badly astounds me, I do wonder if there's a gene in them that makes them susceptible to corruption because it seems that's all they do.

Nice, I thought eugenics was pretty much thought to be bunkum these days, good to see it's still alive and kicking on PH!

What I want to know is what are we going to do with all the starving adults?

Currently they can't support the current demographics of adults that have survuved childhood, helping a bunch more survive will only put pressure upon services later down the line. Surely teaching how to survive rather than just paying for it would be the better way?

[Buff Mchugelarge]

Jinx said:

What I want to know is how come £2 a month gives them clean water but Lee Valley charge me £50?

Thats a good bloody point.
bet there fuels cheaper too..

[Sonic]

freecar said:

Silent1 said:

When we owned them they did fine, they wanted independence so we gave it to them, a few years later they're on the phone begging for money, I have an opinion, we re-colonise and run the place before china takes them all over or we leave them to it.

Quite frankly how an entire continent with that much mineral wealth can fk everything up so badly astounds me, I do wonder if there's a gene in them that makes them susceptible to corruption because it seems that's all they do.

Nice, I thought eugenics was pretty much thought to be bunkum these days, good to see it's still alive and kicking on PH!

What I want to know is what are we going to do with all the starving adults?

Currently they can't support the current demographics of adults that have survuved childhood, helping a bunch more survive will only put pressure upon services later down the line. Surely teaching how to survive rather than just paying for it would be the better way?

Like our benefit under-class, they already know how to survive, and are doing it exceptionally well. They just have to wait and plead poverty, and somebody will provide aid.