Jamaica to become a Republic.

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Fittster

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20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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OllieC said:
Fittster said:
unrepentant said:
Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
I'd happily bet that on average each royal costs the UK less then the average MP
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
Peanuts. The Crown Estates has assets of over 7 billion pounds and all income goes to the treasury. Royal Family effectively cost nothing.
Remove the Royal Family and the state can either take the income from the Estates or sell them off.
I suspect the estates would generate a lot more income if they are not run by the state, comrade.
If they are being run badly by the state maybe we should get shot of the head of the state.

I thought capitalist were in favour of getting rid of incompetent people?

king arthur

6,592 posts

262 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Camoradi said:
.....perhaps Jamaica would like to take Diane Abbott off our hands.

She'd look great on their bank notes... rolleyes
They'd need bank notes the size of A5 paper for that though.

pacman1

7,322 posts

194 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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OllieC said:
Jinx said:
Fittster said:
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
So £22.8 million a year divided by 69 million people approx 33p a year from each of us. I'd gladly pay that for Prince Philip alone.
thumbup bargain
Exactly, not to mention the money their charitable work raises, or the tax paid by the Duchy estate, or the work the Prince's Trust does supporting young people.

Edited by pacman1 on Friday 6th January 13:13

Gun

13,431 posts

219 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Jinx said:
Fittster said:
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
So £22.8 million a year divided by 69 million people approx 33p a year from each of us. I'd gladly pay that for Prince Philip alone.
Exactly, well worth the money!

Eric Mc

122,109 posts

266 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
Eric Mc said:
No more Jamaican immigrants then - or maybe not.
I believe Ireland is a republic but that doesn't seem to have stopped the flow of Irish immigrants. smile
Special arangements agreed under the 1921 Treaty as well as EU regulations - none of which applies to Jamaica.

Puggit

48,520 posts

249 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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king arthur said:
Camoradi said:
.....perhaps Jamaica would like to take Diane Abbott off our hands.

She'd look great on their bank notes... rolleyes
They'd need bank notes the size of A5 paper for that though.
rofl

rich1231

17,331 posts

261 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
Tell you what, I will pay your bit. PM me your address and name and I will send you a cheque for the next 10 years contributions you would have made to keep the Royal Family. Then you can stop your moaning.

pacman1

7,322 posts

194 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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rich1231 said:
Fittster said:
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
Tell you what, I will pay your bit. PM me your address and name and I will send you a cheque for the next 10 years contributions you would have made to keep the Royal Family. Then you can stop your moaning.
I'll match that, so he's sorted for the next 20 years. And the thread derailment is complete. hehe

bobbylondonuk

2,199 posts

191 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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rich1231 said:
Tell you what, I will pay your bit. PM me your address and name and I will send you a cheque for the next 10 years contributions you would have made to keep the Royal Family. Then you can stop your moaning.
I will take on another anti monarchist on the same deal! in return, they relinquish their right to whinge against the monarchy.

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
OllieC said:
Fittster said:
unrepentant said:
Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
I'd happily bet that on average each royal costs the UK less then the average MP
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
Peanuts. The Crown Estates has assets of over 7 billion pounds and all income goes to the treasury. Royal Family effectively cost nothing.
Remove the Royal Family and the state can either take the income from the Estates or sell them off.
I suspect the estates would generate a lot more income if they are not run by the state, comrade.
If they are being run badly by the state maybe we should get shot of the head of the state.

I thought capitalist were in favour of getting rid of incompetent people?
You regard the Queen as incompetent? Or just trying a different line to support your idealogical viewpoint?

The trouble I have always found with idealogical viewpoints is that they rarely reflect reality. As such I steadfastly maintain my position of refusing to believe in any idealogy except that which says...choose the option likely to fk up the least and cause the least damage. Elected politicians have a nasty habit of wanting to take the opposite course, whilst Monarchs have understood that saying too much to piss us induces us to tell them to either fk off out of the country or we lop your head off. I like that.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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V88Dicky said:
I often wonder what it would be like if we'd had an elected Head of State.......






er...
...or...

unrepentant said:
Peanuts. The Crown Estates has assets of over 7 billion pounds and all income goes to the treasury. Royal Family effectively cost nothing.
Which is there for the payment of governance, not for a personal family.

Edited by Halb on Friday 6th January 13:30

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
I'd happily bet that on average each royal costs the UK less then the average MP
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
So queenie costs us 15 million a year

650 MPs who are responsable for a budget defcit of just over 170 Billion

I think on average the royals are costing the country just a little bit less


But if you pay what parliment is costing me this year I will happily pay for what the royals cost you till the day you die

Edited by thinfourth2 on Friday 6th January 13:34

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
So queenie costs us 15 million a year

650 MPs who are responsable for a budget defcit of just over 170 Billion

I think on average the royals are costing the country just a little bit less
Least we can get rid of the MPSbiggrin

"The key figure is £150m, the estimated total cost for the maintenance and lifestyles of one family: 100 times the cost of the Irish presidency, 17 times the cost (per person) of members of parliament and without any return on our 'investment'. "
http://www.republic.org.uk/valueformoneymyth.pdf

Fittster

Original Poster:

20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
I'd happily bet that on average each royal costs the UK less then the average MP
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
So queenie costs us 15 million a year

650 MPs who are responsable for a budget defcit of just over 170 Billion

I think on average the royals are costing the country just a little bit less
So you are trying to deflect the cost of the royal parasites by looking at the costs of other parasites.

I'm perfectly happy to see both groups being decimated.


Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
So you are trying to deflect the cost of the royal parasites by looking at the costs of other parasites.

I'm perfectly happy to see both groups being decimated.
What would you replace it with, something more Swiss?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
So you are trying to deflect the cost of the royal parasites by looking at the costs of other parasites.

I'm perfectly happy to see both groups being decimated.
Ah so you want a dictarorship then


98elise

26,720 posts

162 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
I'd happily bet that on average each royal costs the UK less then the average MP
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
So the civil list costs us half of what we pay (or paid) for jonathan ross, who was also paid for by tax payers. The civil list seem like a bargain.

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Fittster said:
Jinx said:
Fittster said:
"In his Budget statement today the Chancellor announced that payment to the Civil List for calendar year 2011 will be unchanged at £7.9m. Royal Household spending on support of The Queen in Her duties as Monarch in 2011 will fall from £15.1m to £14.9m"

And her useless son gets to own Cornwall.
So £22.8 million a year divided by 69 million people approx 33p a year from each of us. I'd gladly pay that for Prince Philip alone.
Maybe that's the way forward. You want Prince Philip you can sponsor him. The royal's can walk about with a sponsors name on their chest like a footballer players do.
Should the state take your property from you and sell it?

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Fittster said:
So you are trying to deflect the cost of the royal parasites by looking at the costs of other parasites.

I'm perfectly happy to see both groups being decimated.
Ah so you want a dictarorship then
There are other solutions, direct democracy sounds good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Shame she's not from the Cayman Islands.