Scottish Referendum / Independence
Discussion
Ignoring the scots/english hatred and general internet hardman bull s
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Im scottish, im young at 24, so any referendum and the after effects of it, be independence or stay together will affect me for the rest of my life unless i emigate.
I will vote No to leaving the UK, i cannot see it being good for scotland to do so. Be it for jobs or for the economy etc. For myself and everyone i know.
I voted SNP for the good work they have done in my local area with keeping Monklands hospital open, the airdrie-bathgate rail link etc. Also to keep out labour who i dont like.
I dont like alex's vision of stupid windymills everywhere and his other ideas for an independant scotland, i think he based some financial ideas on how ireland and iceland were run. And they havent exactly been good role models. This referendum was always Alex's bluff, he's now being called on it. I dont think he has the commitment to see it through knowing that he will lose it.
t.Im scottish, im young at 24, so any referendum and the after effects of it, be independence or stay together will affect me for the rest of my life unless i emigate.
I will vote No to leaving the UK, i cannot see it being good for scotland to do so. Be it for jobs or for the economy etc. For myself and everyone i know.
I voted SNP for the good work they have done in my local area with keeping Monklands hospital open, the airdrie-bathgate rail link etc. Also to keep out labour who i dont like.
I dont like alex's vision of stupid windymills everywhere and his other ideas for an independant scotland, i think he based some financial ideas on how ireland and iceland were run. And they havent exactly been good role models. This referendum was always Alex's bluff, he's now being called on it. I dont think he has the commitment to see it through knowing that he will lose it.
It's OK, I'm here, the thread is saved!
In seriousness though, I think many English would love AS as a leader. Someone who actually fights hard for the interests of his counry-folk and has a clear passion (whether you agree with that passion or not). And, unlike Cameron, he has a mandate AND a majority!
So many benefits to Scotland being independent, if you're living in Scotland. Most 'discussed' at length on here but, as one good example, smaller, more centralised government, not the over-weight behemoth that is Westminster.
Salmond really did play a political master-stroke today in totally stealing the thunder on the Unionists. If you doubt this, let's see what the headlines in tomorrow's papers are! Cameron so wanted to be making the headlines on this but no such luck toff-boy!
ViperPict said:
It's OK, I'm here, the thread is saved!
In seriousness though, I think many English would love AS as a leader. Someone who actually fights hard for the interests of his counry-folk and has a clear passion (whether you agree with that passion or not). And, unlike Cameron, he has a mandate AND a majority!
So many benefits to Scotland being independent, if you're living in Scotland. Most 'discussed' at length on here but, as one good example, smaller, more centralised government, not the over-weight behemoth that is Westminster.
Salmond really did play a political master-stroke today in totally stealing the thunder on the Unionists. If you doubt this, let's see what the headlines in tomorrow's papers are! Cameron so wanted to be making the headlines on this but no such luck toff-boy!
You are deluded, If I were a doctor I would try get you sectioned.In seriousness though, I think many English would love AS as a leader. Someone who actually fights hard for the interests of his counry-folk and has a clear passion (whether you agree with that passion or not). And, unlike Cameron, he has a mandate AND a majority!
So many benefits to Scotland being independent, if you're living in Scotland. Most 'discussed' at length on here but, as one good example, smaller, more centralised government, not the over-weight behemoth that is Westminster.
Salmond really did play a political master-stroke today in totally stealing the thunder on the Unionists. If you doubt this, let's see what the headlines in tomorrow's papers are! Cameron so wanted to be making the headlines on this but no such luck toff-boy!
rich1231 said:
ViperPict said:
It's OK, I'm here, the thread is saved!
In seriousness though, I think many English would love AS as a leader. Someone who actually fights hard for the interests of his counry-folk and has a clear passion (whether you agree with that passion or not). And, unlike Cameron, he has a mandate AND a majority!
So many benefits to Scotland being independent, if you're living in Scotland. Most 'discussed' at length on here but, as one good example, smaller, more centralised government, not the over-weight behemoth that is Westminster.
Salmond really did play a political master-stroke today in totally stealing the thunder on the Unionists. If you doubt this, let's see what the headlines in tomorrow's papers are! Cameron so wanted to be making the headlines on this but no such luck toff-boy!
You are deluded, If I were a doctor I would try get you sectioned.In seriousness though, I think many English would love AS as a leader. Someone who actually fights hard for the interests of his counry-folk and has a clear passion (whether you agree with that passion or not). And, unlike Cameron, he has a mandate AND a majority!
So many benefits to Scotland being independent, if you're living in Scotland. Most 'discussed' at length on here but, as one good example, smaller, more centralised government, not the over-weight behemoth that is Westminster.
Salmond really did play a political master-stroke today in totally stealing the thunder on the Unionists. If you doubt this, let's see what the headlines in tomorrow's papers are! Cameron so wanted to be making the headlines on this but no such luck toff-boy!
ViperPict said:
It's OK, I'm here, the thread is saved!
In seriousness though, I think many English would love AS as a leader. Someone who actually fights hard for the interests of his counry-folk and has a clear passion (whether you agree with that passion or not). And, unlike Cameron, he has a mandate AND a majority!
So many benefits to Scotland being independent, if you're living in Scotland. Most 'discussed' at length on here but, as one good example, smaller, more centralised government, not the over-weight behemoth that is Westminster.
Salmond really did play a political master-stroke today in totally stealing the thunder on the Unionists. If you doubt this, let's see what the headlines in tomorrow's papers are! Cameron so wanted to be making the headlines on this but no such luck toff-boy!
The problem I see here is that the majority of Scots DON'T want full independance, no matter what the vocal minority say, and AS knows this.In seriousness though, I think many English would love AS as a leader. Someone who actually fights hard for the interests of his counry-folk and has a clear passion (whether you agree with that passion or not). And, unlike Cameron, he has a mandate AND a majority!
So many benefits to Scotland being independent, if you're living in Scotland. Most 'discussed' at length on here but, as one good example, smaller, more centralised government, not the over-weight behemoth that is Westminster.
Salmond really did play a political master-stroke today in totally stealing the thunder on the Unionists. If you doubt this, let's see what the headlines in tomorrow's papers are! Cameron so wanted to be making the headlines on this but no such luck toff-boy!
Derek Smith said:
gtdc said:
The Scottish people who are for it say that Scotland will be financially better off. Others say that Scotland costs England money. Which is actually true?
Times were when it might have been significantly financially advantageous to Scotland to go it alone, just when the oil was coming out of the sea, but those days are long gone.The days of massive incomes from the tourist trade are about the same era and the recent fuss with the release of the bloke who didn't put the bomb on board PanAm 103 can't have helped. Nor can the state of the American dollar.
I'm not sure what the Scots can produce that will make them stand out amongst the other small countries. The scenery is spectacular but it should be remembered that there are many countries with similar spectacles. Many of these have somewhat different weather. Lots don’t have midges - the midges! If only their energy could be harnessed. It would provide a greater return than the oil ever would.
It strikes me as veering towards stupidity not to have the full chapter and verse of the financial side. If they want to leave then it should be on terms that are advantageous. I’d want to know every damn penny.
If someone has worked it out then even so it is still not a forgone conclusion for going for it. Scotland is not without friends but the biggest one is England/Wales. It is, at the very least, dependable. You need to keep those friends who have proved themselves. The problem is that Scotland would be seen as a competitor.
The oil won't last forever.
The dollar is currently relatively STRONG against the pound...
Whisky anyone?
More nonsensical arguments that just don't hold any water...
rich1231 said:
ViperPict said:
In the period 2007-2010, Scotland was the most prosperous region of the UK behind London and it's hinterland...
What happens when all the public sector jobs that westminster keeps up there come back?Your unemployment will be epic.
Dixie68 said:
rich1231 said:
What happens when all the public sector jobs that westminster keeps up there come back?
Your unemployment will be epic.
And the jobs related to the UK military & support services. Your unemployment will be epic.
http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-...
Thanks Dave, you're doing the independence movement proud!
Thanks Dave, you're doing the independence movement proud!
ViperPict said:
UK military - do you see the mistake you've made there? NOT the English military. We will take our share with us...
Really? So you'll 'take your share' of the RAF & RN how exactly? The ships & aircraft are part of the UK inventory, not English or Scottish. You wouldn't be splitting from England, you'd be splitting from the UK.Dixie68 said:
ViperPict said:
UK military - do you see the mistake you've made there? NOT the English military. We will take our share with us...
Really? So you'll 'take your share' of the RAF & RN how exactly? The ships & aircraft are part of the UK inventory, not English or Scottish. You wouldn't be splitting from England, you'd be splitting from the UK.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff