Is the end nigh for the Euro? [vol. 2]

Is the end nigh for the Euro? [vol. 2]

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Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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1point7bar said:
1/3/12
The International Swaps and Derivatives Association's Decisions Committee ruled that the Greek government's retroactive insertion of collective action clauses (CACs) – which could force private sector bondholders to accept the agreed deal with haircuts estimated around 70% – does not constitute a credit event.
I understand the post you have submitted but not the supposed legality of the content.

This really is the Emperors Clothes.

How can a 70% default on any debt not be a credit event?

Answer when it suits the politicians and bankers.

There is an absolute menacing and cold dishonestly about thus that I find horrifying.

AS Bing o said some days on this thread, ago in fact the Greeks have defaulted on their debt.

This is just a very shoddy cover up which cannot last.

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Steffan said:
1point7bar said:
1/3/12
The International Swaps and Derivatives Association's Decisions Committee ruled that the Greek government's retroactive insertion of collective action clauses (CACs) – which could force private sector bondholders to accept the agreed deal with haircuts estimated around 70% – does not constitute a credit event.
I understand the post you have submitted but not the supposed legality of the content.

This really is the Emperors Clothes.

How can a 70% default on any debt not be a credit event?

Answer when it suits the politicians and bankers.

There is an absolute menacing and cold dishonestly about thus that I find horrifying.

AS Bing o said some days on this thread, ago in fact the Greeks have defaulted on their debt.

This is just a very shoddy cover up which cannot last.
They still haven't got any money, God only knows what they spend it on - for such a small nation they sure as hell get through an awful lot of extra debt each month - most people could live on their extra borrowings without much trouble.

€130bn for 11m people = €11818 for every man woman and child. And that's just the overspend!!!!

The cover-up will not last forever, but whether anyone will be able to do anything about it is doubtful.

eharding

13,754 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Steffan said:
I understand the post you have submitted but not the supposed legality of the content.

This really is the Emperors Clothes.

How can a 70% default on any debt not be a credit event?

Answer when it suits the politicians and bankers.

There is an absolute menacing and cold dishonestly about thus that I find horrifying.

AS Bing o said some days on this thread, ago in fact the Greeks have defaulted on their debt.

This is just a very shoddy cover up which cannot last.
The retrospective insertion of the CAC clauses in itself doesn't constitute a credit event - if, however, the CAC is actually invoked, and that does enforce an involuntary loss on a bondholder, then - as far as I understand it - that would constitute a credit event, and credit default insurance would apply.

Which is, frankly, what some insured bondholders actually want - having bought the bonds at a fraction of the face value, they're looking at being paid 100% of the value in the event of a default - although there will be an almighty bun-fight before that happens.



Gary11

4,162 posts

202 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Globs said:
They still haven't got any money, God only knows what they spend it on - for such a small nation they sure as hell get through an awful lot of extra debt each month - most people could live on their extra borrowings without much trouble.

€130bn for 11m people = €11818 for every man woman and child. And that's just the overspend!!!!

The cover-up will not last forever, but whether anyone will be able to do anything about it is doubtful.
I said this Globs a few pages back,it an easy sum but thats just the recent truance payment it is a lot more in total,the country has recieved unprecedented financial aid (in modern times) what have they the people to show for all the billions?
What has the Euro zone achieved? If its failing why heap more money in? What positive do the Greeks get from this? Its just a train crash really unbeliveable stupidity in todays world.
The only reason is ego of the unsustainable unelected gravy train that is the Euro hopefully soon to derail with Van roompoy and co hopefully out of work,the greeks are a side show funded for selfish reasons.

Gary11

4,162 posts

202 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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eharding said:
The retrospective insertion of the CAC clauses in itself doesn't constitute a credit event - if, however, the CAC is actually invoked, and that does enforce an involuntary loss on a bondholder, then - as far as I understand it - that would constitute a credit event, and credit default insurance would apply.

Which is, frankly, what some insured bondholders actually want - having bought the bonds at a fraction of the face value, they're looking at being paid 100% of the value in the event of a default - although there will be an almighty bun-fight before that happens.
Surely it has happened and is therefore an event and is a technical default by virtue of a 3rd party affecting the value and tradeability of the Greek (sovereign?)Bonds which are now worthless as collateral.

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Yup - Sept 2011 their total government debt was at 360bn, someone in government has been either stealing or pissing money up the wall for a long long time!

Before the euro it wouldn't have affected anyone but Greece, now suddenly everyone's being raped by the banks.

Andrew[MG]

3,323 posts

199 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Are we still betting on March 23rd being the date for meltdown?

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Andrew[MG] said:
Are we still betting on March 23rd being the date for meltdown?
An interesting and challenging question.

We are in a phoney truce of insolvent collapse engineered by the EU using the Euro recklessly as a massive money pit. Rather than admit the problem and face the consequences head on.

Greece is as a matter of fact in default NOW. It is just politicking to pretend Greece has not defaulted. Greece has refused to pay 70% of the Sovereign Debt of Greece. Properly issued, perfectly valid Greek Sovereign Debt. Supported by Bonds to the full value.

This nonsense may make the EU happy but it cannot keep Greece afloat. Collapse is inevitable: the EU can chose how this will happen but whatever the EU do it will happen. Way past the point of saving Greece from Insolvency.

My guess is later this month. But as a matter of fact the Bonds are now worthless. Greece has defaulted, but the EU are playing Alice in Wonderland. Not for long.


Irish

3,991 posts

240 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Steffan said:
An interesting and challenging question.

We are in a phoney truce of insolvent collapse engineered by the EU using the Euro recklessly as a massive money pit. Rather than admit the problem and face the consequences head on.

Greece is as a matter of fact in default NOW. It is just politicking to pretend Greece has not defaulted. Greece has refused to pay 70% of the Sovereign Debt of Greece. Properly issued, perfectly valid Greek Sovereign Debt. Supported by Bonds to the full value.

This nonsense may make the EU happy but it cannot keep Greece afloat. Collapse is inevitable: the EU can chose how this will happen but whatever the EU do it will happen. Way past the point of saving Greece from Insolvency.

My guess is later this month. But as a matter of fact the Bonds are now worthless. Greece has defaulted, but the EU are playing Alice in Wonderland. Not for long.
Steffan,

I am a big fan of your posts but one word above I take issue with - "inevitable". Nothing, but nothing, is inevitable in this process. The EU can stay irrational longer than the markets can find it out. To paraphrase Bruce Springsteen - "money from nothing - and the EU kicks on for free"

1point7bar

1,305 posts

149 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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The Bundesbank auction of 5year federal notes on Wed/7 will implicitly demonstrate the funds available for the 'Northern Euro Alliance' to pour down their pet plughole(s).

Edited by 1point7bar on Monday 5th March 23:29

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Irish said:
To paraphrase Bruce Springsteen - "money from nothing - and the EU kicks on for free"
Erm, are you sure you’re not paraphrasing Dire Straits . . . .

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis...

A sign of the times as cracks start to be made ...

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Globs said:
A sign of the times as crack start to be made ...
I see you're a Geert Wilders fan.

Wilders campaigned against the "Islamisation of the Netherlands" and has compared the Quran with Mein Kampf. In 2009 he was banned by the home office from entering UK as a threat to society.

Sounds a nice guy!

Puffing Devil

44 posts

159 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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What do people make of this recent spate of resignations - they seem to be sharply gathering pace as of February.

"It is not known under what circumstances these individuals have left their positions, I make no judgement on that. I find the timing of so many resignations extremely curious and a temporal marker in history of high significance. No one should assume I make any judgement about the character of these people. I frankly don't know their reputations except for a few rather famous ones.

This list includes Banks, Investment Houses, Sovereign Wealth Funds, Equity Funds, Savings Retirement Funds and other shadow banking organizations. The line is very blurry between these entities, some are owned by banks some are banks, some invest in banks as well as owning entire industries (common in Hong Kong and Japan).

1. 9/01/11 (USA NY) Bank of New York Mellon Chief Robert P. Kelly Resigns in a Shake-UP
http://goo.gl/NdW7q
2. 09/20/11 (SCOTLAND) SCOTTISH WIDOWS (RETIREMENT INVESTMENT SAVINGS FUND) There could be no Scottish representative on the board of Lloyds Banking Group, owner of Bank of Scotland, in future after it announced the departure of Lord Sandy Leitch, the chairman of Scottish Widows and group deputy chairman.
http://goo.gl/Dx8qs
3. 9/25/11 (SWITZERLAND) UBS CEO Oswald Gruebel quits over £1.5bn rogue trader crisis
http://goo.gl/WCeqB
4. 9/28/11 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Bank Council: Fritz Studer resigns as per end-April 2012
http://goo.gl/7dNiD
5. 10/29/11 (CHINA) China Construction Bank Corp Chairman Guo Shuqing resigns
http://goo.gl/fdd9v
6. 10/29/11 (CHINA) Agricultural Bank of China Ltd Chairman Xiang Junbo resigns
http://goo.gl/yWX9R
7. 11/01/11 (INDIA) More directors of the Beed district bank resign
http://goo.gl/HD8BQ
8. 11/02/11 (UK) Lloyds Banking Group chief executive, António Horta-Osório, is to take leave of absence on health grounds for six to eight weeks, the BBC has reported. (STILL OUT AS OF 2/24/12 - DEFACTO RESIGNATION)
http://goo.gl/3L9gE
9. 11/21/11 (JAPAN) UBS’s Japan Investment Banking Chairman Matsui to Resign
http://goo.gl/OiDiq
10. 11/29/11 (USA) R. David Land Submits Resignation from the Boards of Directors of Peoples Bancorp. and Seneca National Bank
http://goo.gl/XncOc
11. 12/15/11 (UK) Senior private banker James Fleming resigns from Coutts [private bank]
http://goo.gl/ANN5B
12. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Chairman Mark Giles quits VNB
http://goo.gl/dFDpH
13. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Board Member Claire Gargalli quits VNB
http://goo.gl/kowkW
14. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Board Member Leslie Disharoon quits VNB
http://goo.gl/kstLp
15. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Board Member Neal Kassell quits VNB
http://goo.gl/NrrPZ
16. 1/01/12 (NIGERIA) United Bank for Africa Plc Victor Osadolor resigns
http://goo.gl/b6AoA
17. 1/01/12 (ISRAEL) Israel's Bank Leumi CEO Galia Maor steps down after 16 years
http://goo.gl/xwlFt
18. 1/03/12 (USA VA) Suffolk Bancorp president and CEO J. Gordon Huszagh steps down
http://goo.gl/joExI
19. 1/03/12 (UK) Arbuthnot Banking Group: Neil Kirton resigned from the Board
http://goo.gl/SKE7j
20. 1/03/12 (UK) Arbuthnot Banking Group: Atholl Turrell left the Board.
http://goo.gl/bzZtQ
21. 1/05/12 (UK) Saunderson House [Private Bank] CEO Nick Fletcher steps down
http://goo.gl/zvo1L
22. 1/09/12 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Chairman Philipp Hildebrand resigns
http://goo.gl/5qsUu
23. 1/19/12 (SPAIN) Spanish bank Santander's Americas chief Francisco Luzon quits
http://goo.gl/jEY7Y
24. 1/30/12 (UK) Butterfield Private Bank head Danny Dixon Steps Down
http://goo.gl/sdY1p
25. 1/20/12 (JAPAN) Normura's head of wholesale banking Jasjit Bhattai quits
http://goo.gl/6FuWe
26. 1/21/12 (Greece) Institute of International Finance negotiator Charles Dallara quits
http://goo.gl/NbPlt
27. 1/21/12 (Greece) Institute of International Finance negotiator Jean Lemierre quits
http://goo.gl/E3AkE
28. 1/29/12 (NEW ZEALAND) New Zealand Reserve Bank Gov Alan Bollard to Step Down
http://goo.gl/BwUgv
29. 1/31/12 (SCOTLAND) Royal Bank of Scotland former CEO Fred Goodwin Stripped of Knighthood
http://goo.gl/CoLVS
30. 2/01/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) ABSA [Barclay's Bank] deputy CEO Louis von Zeuner resigns
http://goo.gl/IP8nH
31. 2/01/12 (UK) Lloyds Bankging Group head of wholesaleTruett Tate quits
http://goo.gl/OqRVo
32. 2/01/12 (UK) Llyods Banking Group Tim Tookey leaving end of February
http://goo.gl/vjO5M
33. 2/02/12 (VENEZUELA) Banking Crisis Arne Chacon arrested for Banking Corruption
http://goo.gl/bb5sh
34. 2/05/12 (USA - NY) Morgan's investment banking chairman Joseph Perella quit
http://goo.gl/pG2jF
35. 2/05/12 (USA - NY) Morgan Stanley investment banking Tarek Abdel-Meguid quit
http://goo.gl/bRv9K
36. 2/06/12 (INDIA) Dhanlaxmi Bank CEO Amitabh Chaturvedi quits:
http://goo.gl/OhCEb
37. 2/7/12 (USA) Bank Of America's Mortgage Business Chief Barbara Desoer Retires
http://goo.gl/i7AUY
38. 2/07/12 (INDIA) Kotak Mahindra Bank Falguni Nayar quits
http://goo.gl/fP03J
39. 2/07/12 (IRAN) Iran denies central bank resignation rumor (don't believe until its denied?)
http://goo.gl/PiQSy
40. 2/09/12 (VATICAN) Institute for the Works of Religion (IOR) Four Priests (names were not disclosed) charged In Vatican Banking Scandal. CEO Paolo Cipriani and bank president Ettore Gotti Tedeschi (a member of Opus Dei) are under investigation.
http://goo.gl/tW8Sj
41. 2/9/12 (UKRAINE) National Bank of Ukraine deputy governor Volodymyr Krotiuk quits
http://goo.gl/8BuXy
42. 2/10/12 (KOREA) Korea Exchange Bank chief Larry Klane steps down
http://goo.gl/DBKdc
43. 2/10/12 (INDIA) Tamilnad Mercantile Bank CEO A K Jagannathan resigns
http://goo.gl/wMl5g
44. 2/13/12 (KUWAIT) Kuwait Central Bank CEO Sheikh Salem Abdulaziz Al Sabbah resigns
http://goo.gl/GFvIy
45. 2/14/12 (NICARAQUA) Nicaraqua Central Bank President Antenor Rosales resigns
http://goo.gl/iQ0n8
46. 2/14/12 (UK) Social finance pioneer Malcolm Hayday quits Charity Bank
http://goo.gl/uHp6C
47. 2/15/12 (WORLD) World Bank CEO Zoellick resigns
http://goo.gl/dHDSm
Did the White House tell the World Bank president that he's out?
http://goo.gl/wUOgb
48. 2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Nova Kreditna Banka Maribor CEO Andrej Plos resigns
http://goo.gl/SNsVI
49. 2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Nova Ljubljanska Banka d.d. CEO Bozo Jasovic resigns
http://goo.gl/TyYiJ
50. 2/16/12 (UK) The Financial Services Authority Margaret Cole is to step down
http://goo.gl/yT6rS
51. 2/16/12 (GHANA) Databank Group Executive Chair Ken Ofori-Atta steps down
http://goo.gl/c7PtU
52. 2/16/12 (SAUDI ARABIA) Saudi Hollandi Banks Managing Director Geoffrey Calvert Quits
http://goo.gl/CtmOU
53. 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) ANZ Bank Australia CFO Peter Marriott resigns
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
54. 2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland Sr Equities Trader Jason Edinburgh Arrested
http://goo.gl/WczHh
55. 2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland director equities bus. Vincent Walsh director Arrested
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
56. 2/16/12 (UK) Marex Spectron senior trader Michael Elsom Arrested
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
57. 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) Royal Bank of Scotland Austrailan CEO Stephen Williams resigns
http://goo.gl/4r16D
58. 2/17/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein out as by summer
http://goo.gl/UjpzD
59. 2/17/12 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Council President Hansueli Raggenbass resigns
http://goo.gl/1n1Nr
60. 2/18/12 (Pakistan) The Bank of Azad Jammu & Kashmir executive Zulfiqar Abbasi resigns
http://goo.gl/G0woP
61. 2/20/12 (RUSSIA) Head of Russian Bank Regulator Gennady Melikyan Steps Down
http://goo.gl/Unuez
62. 2/20/12 (SWITZERLAND) Credit Suisse Chief Joseph Tan resigns
http://goo.gl/F5twL
63. 2/20/12 (ISRAEL) Bank Leumi le-Israel Ltd: Zvi Itskovitch resigns
http://goo.gl/aA0RW
64. 2/20/12 (USA WA) First Financial Northwest Director Spencer Schneider Quits
http://goo.gl/6Dj0i
65. 2/21/12 (ARGENTINA) Central Bank of Argentina (BCRA) Gen Mgr Benigno Velez, resigns
http://goo.gl/DuMrm
66. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Abdul Matlub resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
67. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Selima Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
68. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Abdul Musabbir Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
69. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) City General Insurance Co. Ltd director Geasuddin Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
70. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Social Islami Bank Limited director Taslima Akter resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on Eastland Insurance Company Limited
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
71. 2/21/12 (JAPAN) CITIBANK JAPAN: Bakhshi is taking over duties from Brian Mccappin, who the bank said in December would resign after the unit was banned for two weeks from trading tied to the London and Tokyo interbank offered rates.
http://goo.gl/Z1rnw
72. 2/22/12 (HONG KONG) DZ BANK project finance head Tim Meaney quits
http://goo.gl/ppKno
73. 2/22/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs Hedge Fund Group Chief Howard Wietschner to Retire
http://goo.gl/x4Zsr
74. 2/23/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) Richard Gush resigns from Standard Bank
http://goo.gl/DTL5S
75. 2/23/12 (SCOTLAND) Royal Bank of Scotland Group director John McFarlane resigns.
http://goo.gl/KoEUI
76. 2/24/12 (INDIA) Breaking: ICICI Bank GC Pramod Rao resigns
http://goo.gl/5eUqU
77. 2/24/12 (HONG KONG) Citigroup Pvt Bank Global Real Estate Kwang Meng Quek Resigns
http://goo.gl/JIC9A
78. 2/24/12 (NEW ZEALAND) FSF Executive Director Kirk Hope resigns
http://goo.gl/6UJau
79. 2/24/12 (USA) Evercore Partners Head Eduardo Mestre steps down
http://goo.gl/n5RLY
80. 2/25/12 (AUSTRALIA AND NZ) Goldman Sachs Chairman Stephen Fitzgerald quits
http://goo.gl/nMTLW
81. 2/27/12 (GERMANY) Deutsche Bank Americas chief Seth Waugh steps down
http://goo.gl/8lxSw
82. 2/27/12 (BAHRAIN) Khaleeji Commercial Bank CEO Ebrahim Ebrahim quits
http://goo.gl/yKjzL
83. 2/27/12 (FRANCE) Societe Generale’s Investment Banking Chief Michel Péretié Steps Down
http://goo.gl/IJ5Lw
84. 2/27/12 (MALAYSIA) Elaf Bank CEO Dr El Jaroudi resigns
http://goo.gl/eVCS5
85. 2/27/12 (INDIA) Kotak Mahindra Bank Ms Falguni Nayar Quits
http://goo.gl/pTbII
86. 2/27/12 (GERMANY) Equiduct chairman Artur Fischersteps down
http://goo.gl/Q0dWR
87. 2/27/12 (BAHRAIN) - Mumtalakat Holding [Sovereign Wealth Fund] CEO Al Zain resigns
http://goo.gl/hhHSm
88. 2/27/12 (IRAN) Bank Melli CEO Mahmoud Reza Khaavari Resigns - Flees to Canada!
http://goo.gl/DDEUk
89. 2/27/12 (IRAN) Bank Saderat CEO Mohammad Jahromi resigns
http://goo.gl/ZD0mc
90. 2/27/12 (UK) Lloyds Banking Group Glen Moreno steps down
http://goo.gl/dsXcE
91. 2/28/12 (HONG KONG) Hang Seng Bank CEO Margaret Leung Ko May-yee quits
http://goo.gl/Uo800
92. 2/28/12 (CHINA) Bank of China International ECM global head Marshall Nicholson quits
http://goo.gl/26MYq
93. 2/28/12 (SINGAPORE) DBS security head Jim Pasqurell quits, cites health reasons
http://goo.gl/NDJze
94. 2/28/12 (HONG KONG) Bank of America's Asia-Pac. mrkts Brian Canniffe quits
http://goo.gl/cRkCP
95. 2/28/12 (BELGIUM) KBC's CEO Jan Vanhevel is to retire after a career spanning 41 years.
http://goo.gl/1rCWd
96. 2/28/12 (CANADA) Ontario Securities Commission chairwoman Peggy-Anne Brown quits
http://goo.gl/HIYXv
97. 2/28/12 (AUSTRALIA) Bank manager Colin John Carleton jailed nine years for $3m theft
http://goo.gl/ggPvq
98. 2/28/12 (SRI LANKA) Sri Lanka Com Bank CEO Amitha Gooneratne retires
http://goo.gl/YxvNA
99. 2/28/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) REDEFINE INCOME FUND director Gerald Leissner resigns
http://goo.gl/F0UgN
100. 2/28/12 (ITALY) UNICREDIT: Chairman Dieter Rampl not available for a new mandate
http://goo.gl/7aLRU
101. 2/28/12 (UK) Bank of England Sir David Lees re-appointed Chair of Bank of England and gives notice of resignation at end of 2013
http://goo.gl/LkJhV
102. 2/28/12 (IRELAND) State Street Global Advisors Cash Funds plc Director Keith Walsh resigns
http://goo.gl/n6uoM
103. 2/29/12 (AUSTRALIA) Perpetual portfolio manager Matt Williams steps down
http://goo.gl/Jh9jd
104. 2/29/12 (UK) Honister Capital CEO Richard Pearson steps down
http://goo.gl/014or
105. 3/1/12 (MALAYSIA) RHB Bank Bhd deputy managing director Renzo Viegas quits
http://goo.gl/wACrI
106. 3/1/12 (ITALY) Italian Banking Association Chairman Giuseppe Mussari talks to reporters in Rome after he and seven other executives offered to resign in protest over new banking-fee rules included in the government's legislation on boosting competition.
http://goo.gl/3llyT
107. 3/1/12 (USA FL) Florida Venture Forum [Venture Capital] Exec Dir Robin Lester quits
http://goo.gl/nA8g9
108. 3/1/12 (USA) PineBridge Investments said Win Neuger has resigned as chief executive. Neuger helped build AIG's third party asset management business, PineBridge still manages AIG assets
109. 3/1/12 (SINGAPORE) UBS Singapore - James Tulley is leaving Switzerland’s largest bank, it is not clear where he is going.
http://goo.gl/BGugF
110. http://goo.gl/SI7kT 3/1/12 (USA NH) Piscataqua Savings Bank CEO Jay Gibson retires
http://goo.gl/uEqDV
111. 3/2/12 (CHINA) China Construction Bank Corp, the assistant general manager and head of corporate banking Mickey Mehta quits
http://goo.gl/B9dR0
112. 3/2/12 (USA) Deutsche Bank Student Loan CEOJohn Hupalo quits to start student loan counseling firm.
http://goo.gl/8kZuc
113. 3/2/12 (UK) Bank of England Sir Mervin King resigns in June, Lord Sassoon tipped as replacement.
http://goo.gl/ZEUwf
114. 3/2/12 (BOTSWANA) Barclays Bank Botswana managing director Wilfred Mpai forced to resign
http://goo.gl/npBe2
115. 3/2/12 (HONG KONG) New Century Group Hong Kong Ltd [investment house and leisure group] Wilson Ng resigns
http://goo.gl/wFSV8
116. 3/2/12 (USA) Citigroup Richard Parsons to step down as chairman
http://goo.gl/BhZ0F
117. 3/3/12 (AUSTRIA) Volksbank AG (VBAG) The contract of CEO Gerald Wenzel will not be extended
http://goo.gl/w99tD
118. 3/4/12 (KOREA) Hana Financial Group Inc, prominent figure in the history of South Korean finance Kim Seung-yu , resigns
http://goo.gl/fmNxY
119. 3/4/12 (USA) JP Morgan prop trading chief Mike Stewart quits
http://goo.gl/gubPj
120. 3/5/12 ( SAUDI ARABIA) Al Rajhi Bank CEO Abdullah bin Sulaiman Al Rajhi has resigned
http://goo.gl/pNx0l
121. 3/5/12 (UK) Jupiter fund co-manager Tony Nutt steps down
http://goo.gl/RPqOp
122. 3/5/12 (UK) Jupiter fund co-manager John Hamilton steps down
http://goo.gl/RPqOp"

eharding

13,754 posts

285 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
Irish said:
To paraphrase Bruce Springsteen - "money from nothing - and the EU kicks on for free"
Erm, are you sure you’re not paraphrasing Dire Straits . . . .
Oh, don't burst his bubble you mean git. He's happy enough chuntering away about the Celtic miracle economy, and no-one takes a blind bit of notice, so where's the harm?

If you listen very intently to the 'Dire Straits, Live' album, you can hear in some of the quiet bits a bloke with an Irish accent yelling "Woooo....Born in da USA.....play it....woooo....Booooooorn in da USA...we're wid ya, Bruce". I assume it's our chum Irish at work there as well.

hidetheelephants

24,597 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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coyft said:
@Puffingdevil

That's a bit of left field post. Are you quoting someone, if so do you have the link? If not, you've done the research, what do you make of it?
Sales of tinfoil are up?

Bing o

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220 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Globs said:
A sign of the times as crack start to be made ...
I see you're a Geert Wilders fan.

Wilders campaigned against the "Islamisation of the Netherlands" and has compared the Quran with Mein Kampf. In 2009 he was banned by the home office from entering UK as a threat to society.

Sounds a nice guy!
And yet the UK has people like Abu Qatada roaming around.

Irish

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240 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
Erm, are you sure you’re not paraphrasing Dire Straits . . . .
Ah, yeah, before my time though.

Puggit

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249 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Dutch Freedom Party pushes for retun of Guilder:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis...

Before anyone rubbishes the FP, they hod 1/6 of seats in he Dutch parliament, and are often the balance of power.

speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

244 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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IrishTimes said:
Ireland is likely to need a second bailout when its current aid program ends, rating agency Moody’s warned today.

In its weekly credit outlook report, Moody’s also warned a No vote in the upcoming fiscal treaty referendum would bar Ireland from receiving further funds under the European Stability Mechanism (ESM).

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Citigroup economist Michael Saunders said investors face a 50 per cent chance of sharing in losses in Irish Government debt.

"We still expect a sizeable growth undershoot and deficit overshoot, and expect that Ireland will need a second financing package. . . beyond 2013," Mr Saunders said in a weekly broker’s note.
Link to Full Text. Still running a deficit at over 10% of GDP.
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