Health and safety inspectors to charge 256 an hour
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Health and safety inspectors to charge 256 an hour to tell companies what they're doing wrong
Job creation, will they be happy when all businesses are closed down?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/91...
Job creation, will they be happy when all businesses are closed down?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/91...
Edited by rogerthefish on Sunday 18th March 18:29
I wonder if people like me (H & S Consultant for demolition companies) will be held accountable for these costs if my client breaches regulations. Time to re-word my terms of service I think.
This isn't news though, the HSE have been charging large corporations for 'inspections' and gaining income from prosecutions for quite some time. They are 'self funding' to an extent.
It's a worrying prospect if the HSE become dependent on not only prosecutions but funds from handing out improvement / prohibition notices. I expect a lot more of these will be given out.
So much for the government promising to make it easier for small businesses to operate!
This isn't news though, the HSE have been charging large corporations for 'inspections' and gaining income from prosecutions for quite some time. They are 'self funding' to an extent.
It's a worrying prospect if the HSE become dependent on not only prosecutions but funds from handing out improvement / prohibition notices. I expect a lot more of these will be given out.
So much for the government promising to make it easier for small businesses to operate!
Blackpuddin said:
A complete and utter outrage. Puts me in mind of Keith Lard from Phoenix Nights.
I believe we should have an absolute right to opt out of H&S if we choose, whether we're employers, employees, or just citizens using a resource.
As a business owners would you totally opt out of H and S? What parts bother you partcularly?I believe we should have an absolute right to opt out of H&S if we choose, whether we're employers, employees, or just citizens using a resource.
Mojooo said:
Blackpuddin said:
A complete and utter outrage. Puts me in mind of Keith Lard from Phoenix Nights.
I believe we should have an absolute right to opt out of H&S if we choose, whether we're employers, employees, or just citizens using a resource.
As a business owners would you totally opt out of H and S? What parts bother you partcularly?I believe we should have an absolute right to opt out of H&S if we choose, whether we're employers, employees, or just citizens using a resource.
Blackpuddin said:
Mojooo said:
Blackpuddin said:
A complete and utter outrage. Puts me in mind of Keith Lard from Phoenix Nights.
I believe we should have an absolute right to opt out of H&S if we choose, whether we're employers, employees, or just citizens using a resource.
As a business owners would you totally opt out of H and S? What parts bother you partcularly?I believe we should have an absolute right to opt out of H&S if we choose, whether we're employers, employees, or just citizens using a resource.
1. the HSE do not have a monopoly on providing advice
2. properly qualified Health and safety bods despair at the the advice given by people who think a two week course or even technician membership of the institute makes them a safety practitioner. Never mind managers who standard excuse for can't be arsed to find out what the requirements are so we'll not doit and claim it's health and safety .
3. Method Statements , PUWER, COSHH are necessary evils, alternatively take your business to bongo-bongo land where there is no legislation but don't come crying when no one will buy your product because of the lack of compliance and QA information.
2. properly qualified Health and safety bods despair at the the advice given by people who think a two week course or even technician membership of the institute makes them a safety practitioner. Never mind managers who standard excuse for can't be arsed to find out what the requirements are so we'll not doit and claim it's health and safety .
3. Method Statements , PUWER, COSHH are necessary evils, alternatively take your business to bongo-bongo land where there is no legislation but don't come crying when no one will buy your product because of the lack of compliance and QA information.
EDLT said:
Hardly. Both this and the thread you link to are actually gripes against misspending and waste of taxpayers money. I guess people like you who can't see that are a good part of the reason why it is allowed to go on.
thinfourth2 said:
I can't wait till we have an election and get the labour party out of power
With Winky at the helm this kind of s
t is going to destroy business in the UK
It will be so much better once we have David Cameron as PM
With Winky at the helm this kind of s
t is going to destroy business in the UKIt will be so much better once we have David Cameron as PM
On the 5th Jan this year:
“David Cameron pledges to 'kill' health and safety culture“
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/89...
Not sure why people are moaning - Dave has said he's dealing with it so all we have to do is sit tight.
mph1977 said:
3. Method Statements , PUWER, COSHH are necessary evils
How we got by before people could sucessfully run businesses god knows.Thank god for the introduction of all that s
te so we could actually start to make things and trade.It was hell for centuries just banging rocks together.
mph1977 said:
3. Method Statements , PUWER, COSHH are necessary evils, alternatively take your business to bongo-bongo land where there is no legislation but don't come crying when no one will buy your product because of the lack of compliance and QA information.
"Bongo-bongo land"...Where is this? I feel a Jo Brand moment coming on here. In fact, I suspect that you might be a bit of a racist.
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cazzer said:
How we got by before people could sucessfully run businesses god knows.
Thank god for the introduction of all that ste so we could actually start to make things and trade.
It was hell for centuries just banging rocks together.
Excellent, can I put you down to work in the Cotton Mill I'm considering opening? I am thinking 100 hour weeks minimum, I will not be providing hearing protection, or dust masks, and if you fall into the machine I'm going to bill your family for the inconvenience of removing your sad sack corpse from the machine. If you live long enough you will be deaf as a post and suffer with byssinosis. Thank god for the introduction of all that s
te so we could actually start to make things and trade.It was hell for centuries just banging rocks together.
Taking into account that my company considers 20 deaths a year to be an acceptable lose, HSE can charge what to feck they want to keep me safe.
Edited by Bosshogg76 on Tuesday 20th March 01:20
And that is the purpose of h&s. But as there are few workplaces like that anymore they now do "stepladdee usage courses" etc (compulsory at my last employer)
I do not need training on using a stepladder. It's all become part of the bks compensation culture. Employee can't sue for falling off a ladder if they have been fully trained in its usage. Utter crap and sod all to do with health or safety.
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