Now they really have gone to far.

[Gary11]

louiebaby said:

The government has been very hard on emissions. VED is linked to emissions. Company car regulations are linked to emissions. Parking permits in my area are too.

Manufacturers responded by making cars more efficient, (mainly in the tests, in the real world, not so much.)

Users / drivers have responded by driving less, and in more efficient manner. Oddly, the amount of fuel used has a strong relationship with the amount of emissions.

The government has got exactly what it wanted and set out to do, and only now realise the knock on effect this has? Wow.

Well its the ethos of ANY Goverment basing tax grab on,stealth taxation,speed cameras,drinkers,smokers etc, now every one doesnt smoke or drink very much (hence this new minimum unit tax I mean price) or drive other than by hairdryer powered "ecars" or smart cars their economics have all gone horrribly wrong, added to the reccession causing buisness to earn no profit or pay much tax and partly due to 20% vat its not rocket science I wonder what they will do??

Edited by Gary11 on Wednesday 16th May 11:32

Edited by Gary11 on Wednesday 16th May 11:33

[964Cup]

Gary11 said:

Its not a maths fail your theroy only works if we sell our fking pride and joy and buy Nissan micras or smart cars.Quality reply must be a politician.

No, it means not using the Ferrari to pop to the shops. Thankfully the manufacturers seem to be doing a pretty good job of producing ever more efficient cars while not destroying the fun quotient. By the time I chop in my current (appallingly low MPG) daily next year, Audi will kindly have provided me with a diesel alternative that has almost the same power (within 20hp, or 6%), vastly more torque and about twice the efficiency.

Or you could buy a 918 Spider...

770hp. 94mpg.

Just the small matter of about £650k.

Drat.

[oyster]

New POD said:

oyster said:

Willy Nilly said:

Pesty said:

Am I being thick here.

So people are spending less on fuel because its too expensive.

They put the price up to re coup the money.

doesn't that mean people will spend even less meaning they will still get less money back?

Tesco find people aren't buying enough stuff, so they have a sale. HMRC find that people aren't buying enough petrol (after cranking the price up and bullstting about global warming etc) so they put the price up some more. Perhaps HMRC would like to do a sale, 2 for 1 on petrol???

Elastic versus inelastic demand - google it.
Fuel for transport is mostly inelastic demand, hence the normal rules for supply/demand impact on prices doesn't fully apply. Same goes for Royal Mail, hence the big stamp price increase recently.

Except that the inelastic demand has a bit of elasticity in it, so my mother has declared that all future Cards and letters will be via email, and I've have to print my own birthday card.

True. Which is why I said these things are mostly inelastic. I assume Royal Mail are assuming that a 30% rise in prices results in a fall in volume of less than 30%.
The Treasury will be looking to the same on fuel duty.

Shame the Labout party didn't do the same on income tax.

[martin84]

I've said for ages they're chasing revenue downwards now. The higher they put the price - the less revenue they make because they price people out of it. Eventually we'll have just one motorist left driving round the economically smashed desolate wasteland paying £7,000 a litre.

[Gary11]

martin84 said:

I've said for ages they're chasing revenue downwards now. The higher they put the price - the less revenue they make because they price people out of it. Eventually we'll have just one motorist left driving round the economically smashed desolate wasteland paying £7,000 a litre.

As the Japanese found out in the great depression of the 30s..we should know better.

[Pothole]

You should know better, too. 'They' haven't actually gone anywhere, have they? How dare a government look for ways to get us out of the st? How fking DARE they?

[Gary11]

Pothole said:

You should know better, too. 'They' haven't actually gone anywhere, have they? How dare a government look for ways to get us out of the st? How fking DARE they?

Troll

[Jasandjules]

louiebaby said:

The government has got exactly what it wanted and set out to do, and only now realise the knock on effect this has? Wow.

No, the Govt set out to find reasons to increase revenue - CO2 was a good way to increase taxation for them. Now, the revenue is reducing, they need to make more........ So they knew the knock on effect and will have been planning for a while about what to do.

[Pothole]

Gary11 said:

Pothole said:

You should know better, too. 'They' haven't actually gone anywhere, have they? How dare a government look for ways to get us out of the st? How fking DARE they?

Troll

Roflcopters! Two months? Really?