Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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jjlynn27 said:
I have just passing interest in all of this, but how long has he been at the embassy? Without actually being able to go for a walk, it must feel like a prison. I'd imagine that embassy staff are getting pretty pissed too that he's still there.
Yes, the embassy staff, and the government of Ecuador, are very pissed at him.

He has cost them £40,000 a month as they have had to have private security contractors guarding him and monitoring him, plus vetting, frisking, and recording all visitors to him.

They have had to have extensive CCTV and audio systems installed throughout the embassy to monitor Assange's erratic behaviour and activities, which included trying to snoop on embassy documents.

The embassy has had to rent a flat in the next block to house these security contractors at a cost of £2800 a month for the rent of the flat.

He has hacked their own embassy servers and intranet so he could read their internal notes and emails on him, so now they have to keep any information on him locked in a safe.

The embassy is tiny, and is effectively just a section of the ground floor of the apartment building. Assange was just given one room to live in at the start. Now he has taken over around 1/3 of the entire embassy and put locks on some of the doors to rooms that only he has the code for.

He holds face to face conversations with secret visitors in the ladies toilet for hours on end as he thinks this is the only room which isn't bugged.

A couple of months ago it was reported that the security bill has now reached $97,000 a month. The cost of protecting Assange, and more importantly monitoring his ever increasing activities carried out within the embassy.

One entire room of the tiny embassy is said to be entirely filled with Wikileaks computers and servers.

Recently, Ecuador’s president Lenín Moreno, pronounced him a costly “inherited problem” and made it clear that he viewed Assange as an obstacle to better relations with the US.

Since March of this year, things boiled over when the embassy cut off his internet access, and installed a cellular jammer to stop him reading his emails or accessing the internet using a mobile phone. They also barred any of his visitors from entering the embassy.

Apparently he now passes the time by reading books.

It is very clear that they now want him out, and quickly.


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 23 September 15:12

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
jjlynn27 said:
I have just passing interest in all of this, but how long has he been at the embassy? Without actually being able to go for a walk, it must feel like a prison. I'd imagine that embassy staff are getting pretty pissed too that he's still there.
Yes, the embassy staff, and the government of Equador, are very pissed at him.

He has cost them £40,000 a month as they have had to have private security contractors guarding him and monitoring him, plus vetting, frisking, and recording all visitors to him.

They have had to have extensive CCTV and audio systems installed throughout the embassy to monitor Assange's erratic behaviour and activities, which included trying to snoop on embassy documents.

The embassy has had to rent a flat in the next block to house these security contractors at a cost of £2800 a month for the rent of the flat.

He has hacked their own embassy servers and intranet so he could read their internal notes and emails on him, so now they have to keep any information on him locked in a safe.

The embassy is tiny, and is effectively just a section of the ground floor of the apartment building. Assange was just given one room to live in at the start. Now he has taken over around 1/3 of the entire embassy and put locks on some of the doors to rooms that only he has the code for.

He holds face to face conversations with secret visitors in the ladies toilet for hours on end as he thinks this is the only room which isn't bugged.

A couple of months ago it was reported that the security bill has now reached $97,000 a month. The cost of protecting Assange, and more importantly monitoring his ever increasing activities carried out within the embassy.

One entire room of the tiny embassy is said to be entirely filled with Wikileaks computers and servers.

Recently, Ecuador’s president Lenín Moreno, pronounced him a costly “inherited problem” and made it clear that he viewed Assange as an obstacle to better relations with the US.

Since March of this year, things boiled over when the embassy cut off his internet access, and installed a cellular jammer to stop him reading his emails or accessing the internet using a mobile phone. They also barred any of his visitors from entering the embassy.

Apparently he now passes the time by reading books.

It is very clear that they now want him out, and quickly.
He only had sll his “stuff” in the embassy because he had been allowed to bring it in. Where the hell did hr get the locks from to lock all his rooms ? Or the servers ? How can they tolerate him hacking their computers ?

Quite a ridiculous situation.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Exige77 said:
He only had sll his “stuff” in the embassy because he had been allowed to bring it in. Where the hell did hr get the locks from to lock all his rooms ? Or the servers ? How can they tolerate him hacking their computers ?

Quite a ridiculous situation.
Indeed. It is quite ridiculous all round.

Ecuador only have themselves to blame for it all.

They thought they were being clever by letting him in there, and it has caused them nothing but problems.

There have been recent reports that the embassy is almost deserted and barely used. I suspect that Ecuador can't wait to get him out, then either move the embassy or close it.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
There have been recent reports that the embassy is almost deserted and barely used. I suspect that Ecuador can't wait to get him out, then either move the embassy or close it.
That would hysterically funny.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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4x4Tyke said:
Lord Marylebone said:
There have been recent reports that the embassy is almost deserted and barely used. I suspect that Ecuador can't wait to get him out, then either move the embassy or close it.
That would hysterically funny.
I think we can safely say that either way, he will be leaving that embassy soon.

It's just a question of how.

Will he just walk out?

Will he be made to leave by the Embassy?

Will he try to sneak out?

Will the Russians try to assist him in his departure?

It will be interesting to see how this all ends.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Reading more about it here, I really can't see why they can't just tell him; 'Sorry, time's up.'?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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jjlynn27 said:
Reading more about it here, I really can't see why they can't just tell him; 'Sorry, time's up.'?
Because I suppose they will look a bit daft.

They invited him in and made a big show of it all, stuck two fingers up at 'the west', all had a laugh about outsmarting the UK/USA, and if he just walked out now and got arrested it would all have been pointless, and the joke's on them.

To be honest, the best thing that could happen is that he ends up getting kicked out of the embassy and absolutely nothing happens.

He would then feel like a complete pillock for wasting 6 years of his life cooped up in some kind of self imposed prison, now in the knowledge that it was pointless.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Given that the embassy has pissed of UK Gov by harbouring him.

Why not just appoint him as a diplomat - with diplomatic immunity.
Fly him out - and he can farm pigs for a living,

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Troubleatmill said:
Given that the embassy has pissed of UK Gov by harbouring him.

Why not just appoint him as a diplomat - with diplomatic immunity.
Fly him out - and he can farm pigs for a living,
Seem to recall that was tried - and his diplomatic status got blocked.

Ecuador should just move embassy - sub let their existing place to someone nice like the Russians - and leave the self aggrandising high and dry thumbup

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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alfaman said:
Troubleatmill said:
Given that the embassy has pissed of UK Gov by harbouring him.

Why not just appoint him as a diplomat - with diplomatic immunity.
Fly him out - and he can farm pigs for a living,
Seem to recall that was tried - and his diplomatic status got blocked.
Correct.

You can't just become a diplomat in the UK.

The UK government has to agree to recognise your named staff as diplomats before they arrive here.

We refuse to agree to assange being a diplomat.

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
alfaman said:
Troubleatmill said:
Given that the embassy has pissed of UK Gov by harbouring him.

Why not just appoint him as a diplomat - with diplomatic immunity.
Fly him out - and he can farm pigs for a living,
Seem to recall that was tried - and his diplomatic status got blocked.
Correct.

You can't just become a diplomat in the UK.

The UK government has to agree to recognise your named staff as diplomats before they arrive here.

We refuse to agree to assange being a diplomat.
That other diplomat, Boris Becker could move in with him ?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Exige77 said:
That other diplomat, Boris Becker could move in with him ?
rofl

Ah yes, that bastion of politics and diplomacy, Boris Becker.

He definitely didn't just get a diplomatic passport from Africa just to avoid bankruptcy proceedings in the UK. Oh no. Certainly not.

AJL308

6,390 posts

157 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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jjlynn27 said:
Wow.

6 years? With no end in sight?

You could almost feel sorry for him.

Almost.

As for the embassy, can't they just say; 'Dude, enough already, we tried to help you out a bit, but with all due respect, GTFO'.
He will almost certainly have some dirt on Ecuador which he's threatened to divulge. I mean, Ecuador, ffs. Who are they in all this and wtf would they care about some Aussie narcissist?

AJL308

6,390 posts

157 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
jjlynn27 said:
I have just passing interest in all of this, but how long has he been at the embassy? Without actually being able to go for a walk, it must feel like a prison. I'd imagine that embassy staff are getting pretty pissed too that he's still there.
Yes, the embassy staff, and the government of Ecuador, are very pissed at him.

He has cost them £40,000 a month as they have had to have private security contractors guarding him and monitoring him, plus vetting, frisking, and recording all visitors to him.

They have had to have extensive CCTV and audio systems installed throughout the embassy to monitor Assange's erratic behaviour and activities, which included trying to snoop on embassy documents.

The embassy has had to rent a flat in the next block to house these security contractors at a cost of £2800 a month for the rent of the flat.

He has hacked their own embassy servers and intranet so he could read their internal notes and emails on him, so now they have to keep any information on him locked in a safe.

The embassy is tiny, and is effectively just a section of the ground floor of the apartment building. Assange was just given one room to live in at the start. Now he has taken over around 1/3 of the entire embassy and put locks on some of the doors to rooms that only he has the code for.

He holds face to face conversations with secret visitors in the ladies toilet for hours on end as he thinks this is the only room which isn't bugged.

A couple of months ago it was reported that the security bill has now reached $97,000 a month. The cost of protecting Assange, and more importantly monitoring his ever increasing activities carried out within the embassy.

One entire room of the tiny embassy is said to be entirely filled with Wikileaks computers and servers.

Recently, Ecuador’s president Lenín Moreno, pronounced him a costly “inherited problem” and made it clear that he viewed Assange as an obstacle to better relations with the US.

Since March of this year, things boiled over when the embassy cut off his internet access, and installed a cellular jammer to stop him reading his emails or accessing the internet using a mobile phone. They also barred any of his visitors from entering the embassy.

Apparently he now passes the time by reading books.

[i]It is very clear that they now want him out, and quickly.[/b]


Edited by Lord Marylebone on Sunday 23 September 15:12
Which they are free to do at any time. But, as I say.......

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/julian-assang...


In the text 'In a statement, WikiLeaks said, “Due to extraordinary circumstances where Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks has been held incommunicado (except visits by lawyers) for six months while arbitrarily detained in the Ecuadorean embassy'


LOL wut.



Starfighter

4,930 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Looks like the Equadorian government is tightening up a bit....
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/oct/16/ecua...

Internet access restricted, limits on political statement and clean your room!

ex1

2,729 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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What he needs is a "look a like" to distract the bobby outside while he shuffles off in the other direction.

Maybe thats exactly what he did 6 yrs ago and all this is just buying him more time.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Starfighter said:
Looks like the Equadorian government is tightening up a bit....
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/oct/16/ecua...

Internet access restricted, limits on political statement and clean your room!
I have this image of him laying about all day in his piss stained Y fronts. At least his cat is wearing a tie

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Burwood said:
Starfighter said:
Looks like the Equadorian government is tightening up a bit....
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/oct/16/ecua...

Internet access restricted, limits on political statement and clean your room!
I have this image of him laying about all day in his piss stained Y fronts. At least his cat is wearing a tie
I like the look of his smartly dressed cat.

But having read that article, it is clear that they are just looking for excuses to put him out.

Numerous mentions of allowing 'British authorities' to enter the Embassy.

Truly an unwelcome guest now.

Starfighter

4,930 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Reading between the lines, personal hygiene is not a priority for him. The final straw may have involved the cat using the copier as a litter tray.

I agree that they want him out.