Cameron leaves daughter at boozer!
Discussion
Mr_B said:
sone said:
Is this really news?.
Not really, but to millions in this country it is, because it provides something to moan about and an excuse to say he can't look after his own kids, so he can't run a country. Randy Winkman said:
Mr_B said:
sone said:
Is this really news?.
Not really, but to millions in this country it is, because it provides something to moan about and an excuse to say he can't look after his own kids, so he can't run a country. No I wouldn't.
hornet said:
No big deal. After all, Brown left the entire country in the toilet.
Fido likes this. Seems the Beeb is making a big deal about this. As for the comparisons with the Tapas-munchers, Dave clearly forgot about her by accident whereas .. i'll leave you to fill in the blanks. No comparison.
Put it another way, would one expect this same story to have been given at least as much exposure in the media and at least as much interest on PH had the details of this story been identical bar the events happening to a (slightly more grown up than reality) child of Gordon Brown and the events taking place in 2008?
I'd suggest the story would be at least as "newsworthy" regardless of mine or your specific interest in the stories, real or fictitious.
I'd suggest furthermore that there is some truth in expanding that to a larger number of "political" threads on these fora. I certainly notice some threads have much longer legs than others, dependeant on which "side" is involved.
For background I should add I'm not offended nor particularly leftist.
I'd suggest the story would be at least as "newsworthy" regardless of mine or your specific interest in the stories, real or fictitious.
I'd suggest furthermore that there is some truth in expanding that to a larger number of "political" threads on these fora. I certainly notice some threads have much longer legs than others, dependeant on which "side" is involved.
For background I should add I'm not offended nor particularly leftist.
andymadmak said:
Randy Winkman said:
Mr_B said:
sone said:
Is this really news?.
Not really, but to millions in this country it is, because it provides something to moan about and an excuse to say he can't look after his own kids, so he can't run a country. No I wouldn't.
petemurphy said:
poor darling police how can they possibly be expected to remember they have a job to do
Yes. I mean the Police were sat right by them in the pub, feeding the child by hand and absolving Cameron of all his parental responsibilities. Can't have the Prime Minister being distracted from all his important duties by actually looking after his daughter.Perhaps he treats her with the same contempt he treats everyone else who works for him.
Edited by Elroy Blue on Monday 11th June 16:15
scenario8 said:
Put it another way, would one expect this same story to have been given at least as much exposure in the media and at least as much interest on PH had the details of this story been identical bar the events happening to a (slightly more grown up than reality) child of Gordon Brown and the events taking place in 2008?
I'd suggest the story would be at least as "newsworthy" regardless of mine or your specific interest in the stories, real or fictitious.
I'd suggest furthermore that there is some truth in expanding that to a larger number of "political" threads on these fora. I certainly notice some threads have much longer legs than others, dependeant on which "side" is involved.
For background I should add I'm not offended nor particularly leftist.
Well, you see, had it been Mr + Mrs Brown, or even Mr + Mrs Blair I seriously doubt that it would have been so well covered by the media, - certainly NOT by the BBC or the left wing media - granted the Wail would probably have gone to town on it but then again, it's the Wail. I'd suggest the story would be at least as "newsworthy" regardless of mine or your specific interest in the stories, real or fictitious.
I'd suggest furthermore that there is some truth in expanding that to a larger number of "political" threads on these fora. I certainly notice some threads have much longer legs than others, dependeant on which "side" is involved.
For background I should add I'm not offended nor particularly leftist.
There was a comment on the BBC article in the HYS bit where someone actually said something like "He's already lost one kid so you'd think he'd know better" or something equally offensive.
I think we shall have to respectfully disagree.
Yet again I fail to be as upset by the BBC reporting as others on these pages (their coverage of this story hasn't stretched into the afternoon and you'd do well to find it on their website, generally the story was treated with the tongue firmly in the cheek and I have confidence it would be given as much/little coverage were it a story about Gordon Brown). The Mail features the story prominently on their front page and is their most dicussed story by their contributory readers so they (the readers) must think it significant one way or the other. The story is also on the Telegraph front page (not the lead story, obviously). The Express has a prominent story about Mr Cameron's "distress" about leavig his daughter in the pub with a handy picture of a distressed PM to accompany prominent on their frot page. It's the second story in the London Evening Standard (suitably behind an unsympathetic story about Gordon Brown's appearance at Leveson. I don't see any particular one sided left wing media assault on Mr Cameron.
I stand by my inferred point that had this story been about Gordon Brown the PH thread would be at least as long as this thread. At least as long. I'd expect the Express, Standard and Mail to have run stories less sympathetic to the PM, too.
Yet again I fail to be as upset by the BBC reporting as others on these pages (their coverage of this story hasn't stretched into the afternoon and you'd do well to find it on their website, generally the story was treated with the tongue firmly in the cheek and I have confidence it would be given as much/little coverage were it a story about Gordon Brown). The Mail features the story prominently on their front page and is their most dicussed story by their contributory readers so they (the readers) must think it significant one way or the other. The story is also on the Telegraph front page (not the lead story, obviously). The Express has a prominent story about Mr Cameron's "distress" about leavig his daughter in the pub with a handy picture of a distressed PM to accompany prominent on their frot page. It's the second story in the London Evening Standard (suitably behind an unsympathetic story about Gordon Brown's appearance at Leveson. I don't see any particular one sided left wing media assault on Mr Cameron.
I stand by my inferred point that had this story been about Gordon Brown the PH thread would be at least as long as this thread. At least as long. I'd expect the Express, Standard and Mail to have run stories less sympathetic to the PM, too.
Edited by scenario8 on Monday 11th June 16:53
Elroy Blue said:
petemurphy said:
poor darling police how can they possibly be expected to remember they have a job to do
Yes. I mean the Police were sat right by them in the pub, feeding the child by hand and absolving Cameron of all his parental responsibilities. Can't have the Prime Minister being distracted from all his important duties by actually looking after his daughter.Perhaps he treats her with the same contempt he treats everyone else who works for him.
Edited by Elroy Blue on Monday 11th June 16:15
Taking aside the parenting, I have to say I am amazed you are defending our special forces from losing track of one it's meant to be protecting.
Still at least they didn't leave any firearms behind in the toilet this time.
If Gordon Brown hadn't fked the economy up so much Cameron wouldn't have had so much on his mind and would never have left his daughter in the local Harvester. The one-eyed tt. I think Cameron is doing about as good a job of remembering his children as you could expect given the state Brown left the economy in. Remember when he sold that gold?!
Anyway got to go do some more IT consulting, cheerio!
Anyway got to go do some more IT consulting, cheerio!
DickHerpes said:
If Gordon Brown hadn't fked the economy up so much Cameron wouldn't have had so much on his mind and would never have left his daughter in the local Harvester. The one-eyed tt. I think Cameron is doing about as good a job of remembering his children as you could expect given the state Brown left the economy in. Remember when he sold that gold?!
Anyway got to go do some more IT consulting, cheerio!
LOL, am assuming that was tongue in cheek.Anyway got to go do some more IT consulting, cheerio!
When I was 13 I forgot I'd taken my youngest sister to the shop with me, the bking I got from my mum when I got home was severe to say the least. Fortunately she was still happily in her buggy when I got back there 20mins later.
Also forgot I'd got to the shop on my bike a couple of years later and walked home. That didn't have such a good outcome as when I remembered a couple of days later (going to get my bike for a ride), I returned to the scene only to find the remains of my D-lock.
MOTORVATOR said:
swiftpete said:
I can see how this sort of thing could happen with the setup they have, with multiple bodyguards and cars etc, but it's still an embarrassing mistake that he will be picked apart for from now on.
Doesn't say much for the security around them.scenario8 said:
I'd suggest furthermore that there is some truth in expanding that to a larger number of "political" threads on these fora. I certainly notice some threads have much longer legs than others, dependeant on which "side" is involved.
For background I should add I'm not offended nor particularly leftist.
I'd tend to agree. People seem not to analyse and digest a story, rather just regurgitate tired tribal politics.For background I should add I'm not offended nor particularly leftist.
No better then the people who still wail about Thatcher.
sone said:
Is this really news?.
Yeah I'd say so but only from a 'Heat', 'Grazia' or other cheap magazine POV.I'm most certainly not the best parent in the world but it kind of highlights a bit of a communication fail, which is pretty dire for someone that spends his entire life communicating with everyone.
Clearly he did not discuss the trip home with his wife, or his child. They both left the pub thinking the other had taken responsibility. Nice!
If you go to the pub as a family then I find it a bit odd that you would just get up and walk off without even saying, "come on xxxx, we're heading home now. why don't you pack up your xyz (insert ipad/nintendo/etc). whose car are you coming home in?".
But I guess I'm not running the country either.
BliarOut said:
sone said:
Is this really news?.
Because of who it is, definitely. Imagine Social Services now try to remove a child from a family because they left him or her behind...Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff