Who to believe - Brown or Brooks?
Discussion
whoami said:
IforB said:
Dishonest means you deliberately tell untruths. I got the feeling that Brown always believed every word he said. No matter how ridiculous.
Well if that's the case, he is mentally ill.Some of the criticism Brown has had is just needlessly cruel and totally unfair on him as a human being, putting aside any fair criticism anyone might have of him as a politician or a private citizen.
rohrl said:
whoami said:
IforB said:
Dishonest means you deliberately tell untruths. I got the feeling that Brown always believed every word he said. No matter how ridiculous.
Well if that's the case, he is mentally ill.Some of the criticism Brown has had is just needlessly cruel and totally unfair on him as a human being, putting aside any fair criticism anyone might have of him as a politician or a private citizen.
rohrl said:
whoami said:
If mental illness makes him unable to tell the truth then he has (or had) no place in public life, never mind being PM.
That isn't true though is it? That's being silly.Somehow I don't think we'll be looking back at Brown's time in office in 70 years time and remarking what a great leader he was. In fact even his own party seem quite keen to forget him now and even keener that the rest of us forget him. In the meantime his constituents just think he's forgotten them.
Mr GrimNasty said:
Derek Smith said:
Churchill was less than stable mentally.
The 'black dog' alone does not make people unfit for office. He was still in touch with reality. Brown's problems are far deeper.None of us here are Brown's GP or Psychiatrist and none of us know how he was affected by his daughter dying, the diagnosis of CF in his son or the pressure of the job and being screwed over by Blair.
For the record I'm no great fan of Brown's performance as PM or how he conducted himself with his staff while in office but I know a lynch-mob mentality when I see it and some of the unfair criticism of Brown has been quite ugly.
rohrl said:
Says you, a man on the internet.
None of us here are Brown's GP or Psychiatrist and none of us know how he was affected by his daughter dying, the diagnosis of CF in his son or the pressure of the job and being screwed over by Blair.
For the record I'm no great fan of Brown's performance as PM or how he conducted himself with his staff while in office but I know a lynch-mob mentality when I see it and some of the unfair criticism of Brown has been quite ugly.
Well said.None of us here are Brown's GP or Psychiatrist and none of us know how he was affected by his daughter dying, the diagnosis of CF in his son or the pressure of the job and being screwed over by Blair.
For the record I'm no great fan of Brown's performance as PM or how he conducted himself with his staff while in office but I know a lynch-mob mentality when I see it and some of the unfair criticism of Brown has been quite ugly.
To read most people's comments on here you'd think that Brown was a combination of Beelzebub, Pol Pot and Fred West.
I'm afraid this sort of blinkered nonsensical hatred is the reason that I rarely venture into this section of PH.
matchmaker said:
Both of them are proven liars.
IforB said:
rohrl said:
Says you, a man on the internet.
None of us here are Brown's GP or Psychiatrist and none of us know how he was affected by his daughter dying, the diagnosis of CF in his son or the pressure of the job and being screwed over by Blair.
For the record I'm no great fan of Brown's performance as PM or how he conducted himself with his staff while in office but I know a lynch-mob mentality when I see it and some of the unfair criticism of Brown has been quite ugly.
Well said.None of us here are Brown's GP or Psychiatrist and none of us know how he was affected by his daughter dying, the diagnosis of CF in his son or the pressure of the job and being screwed over by Blair.
For the record I'm no great fan of Brown's performance as PM or how he conducted himself with his staff while in office but I know a lynch-mob mentality when I see it and some of the unfair criticism of Brown has been quite ugly.
To read most people's comments on here you'd think that Brown was a combination of Beelzebub, Pol Pot and Fred West.
I'm afraid this sort of blinkered nonsensical hatred is the reason that I rarely venture into this section of PH.
How else could he be 100% to blame for the world wide financial crash
Mr GrimNasty said:
Derek Smith said:
Churchill was less than stable mentally.
The 'black dog' alone does not make people unfit for office. He was still in touch with reality. Brown's problems are far deeper.whoami said:
Derek Smith said:
Churchill was less than stable mentally.
Are you comparing Brown to Churchill?For anyone who has genuinely studied Churchill, the man and his actions, he is clearly a very complicated character with immense flaws who over a period of sixty odd years made many highly questionable decisions and displayed curious character traits that in a more invasive and less respectful media age would likely see him atleast challenged to a very high degree.
I'd suggest an uncomplicated myth has developed around him in the sixty odd years since WW2 and rarely are his flaws even considered by the masses (certainly the British masses). He's a "goodie" what won the war. For many that's enough.
We're somewhat heading off topic, though!
I'd suggest an uncomplicated myth has developed around him in the sixty odd years since WW2 and rarely are his flaws even considered by the masses (certainly the British masses). He's a "goodie" what won the war. For many that's enough.
We're somewhat heading off topic, though!
t but he has impeccable taste in watches.Two things about Brown today.
Firstly, I don't believe he told a single truth.
Secondly, I'm not entirely convinced he is aware of this.
I think he is mentally ill. He has wasted his entire life with an intent drive to change Britain into a utopian state of equality that his mind cannot cope with the abject waste and failure he has made of his life and is protecting itself from reality by operating within a wholly delusional state.
His entire political career he was a dishonest, driven, violent, angry zealot. I believe that since 08 he is a genuinely broken wreck.
Firstly, I don't believe he told a single truth.
Secondly, I'm not entirely convinced he is aware of this.
I think he is mentally ill. He has wasted his entire life with an intent drive to change Britain into a utopian state of equality that his mind cannot cope with the abject waste and failure he has made of his life and is protecting itself from reality by operating within a wholly delusional state.
His entire political career he was a dishonest, driven, violent, angry zealot. I believe that since 08 he is a genuinely broken wreck.
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